Comments on: Pelosi to the CIA: Bush Briefers Lied to Me (Updated x2) http://patterico.com/2009/05/14/pelosi-to-the-cia-bush-briefers-lied-to-me/ Harangues that just make sense Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:53:39 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Eric Blair http://patterico.com/2009/05/14/pelosi-to-the-cia-bush-briefers-lied-to-me/comment-page-4/#comment-496040 Eric Blair Sat, 16 May 2009 19:02:39 +0000 http://patterico.com/?p=24866#comment-496040 What was that about giving people the benefit of the doubt? Strange that your sense of caution and fairness appears to be related to party affiliation. What was that about giving people the benefit of the doubt? Strange that your sense of caution and fairness appears to be related to party affiliation.

]]> By: The Emperor http://patterico.com/2009/05/14/pelosi-to-the-cia-bush-briefers-lied-to-me/comment-page-4/#comment-496030 The Emperor Sat, 16 May 2009 18:30:17 +0000 http://patterico.com/?p=24866#comment-496030 <i>Comment by no one you know — 5/16/2009 @ 10:37 am</i> I am sure you know that the Reps are using this to fight her. Their aim is to pin part of the blame on her. They know their party messed up the last eight year. But they are not going down alone are they? They are taking Nancy Pelosi with them! This is not about finding out the truth. It's same old game of politics they have been known to play. Comment by no one you know — 5/16/2009 @ 10:37 am
I am sure you know that the Reps are using this to fight her. Their aim is to pin part of the blame on her. They know their party messed up the last eight year. But they are not going down alone are they? They are taking Nancy Pelosi with them! This is not about finding out the truth. It’s same old game of politics they have been known to play.

]]> By: no one you know http://patterico.com/2009/05/14/pelosi-to-the-cia-bush-briefers-lied-to-me/comment-page-4/#comment-496017 no one you know Sat, 16 May 2009 17:37:18 +0000 http://patterico.com/?p=24866#comment-496017 <i>The Dems and Reps were united in the war against terror. Nobody was interested in what could be the rights of enemy combatants. This should be her line of argument</i> I think you're right. It's too bad, isn't it, that it's rather late for that, since she already chose to use another line of argument, namely <i>slandering many other people </i>to avoid having to face far-left liberals about the decisions she made at the time. <i>But since she says she was not told it was being used at the time, I would give her the benefit of the doubt. At least until evidence points to the contrary. </i> The statements of (among others) Leon Panetta, Democrat liberal head of the CIA, which informed her, and Joe Lieberman, liberal Democrat who got a lot of CIA briefings also and said he got truth from them, ARE just some of the evidence pointing to the contrary. <i>What I see is a desperate attempt by the Reps to use this against her. </i> Panetta and Lieberman are not Republicans. Would have said that you are determined to see what your political lens permits rather than the facts of the matter, except that you have already admitted that Pelosi lied. So you know very well what the evidence is, and what it means. You've already said so. The Dems and Reps were united in the war against terror. Nobody was interested in what could be the rights of enemy combatants. This should be her line of argument

I think you’re right. It’s too bad, isn’t it, that it’s rather late for that, since she already chose to use another line of argument, namely slandering many other people to avoid having to face far-left liberals about the decisions she made at the time.

But since she says she was not told it was being used at the time, I would give her the benefit of the doubt. At least until evidence points to the contrary.

The statements of (among others) Leon Panetta, Democrat liberal head of the CIA, which informed her, and Joe Lieberman, liberal Democrat who got a lot of CIA briefings also and said he got truth from them, ARE just some of the evidence pointing to the contrary.

What I see is a desperate attempt by the Reps to use this against her.

Panetta and Lieberman are not Republicans. Would have said that you are determined to see what your political lens permits rather than the facts of the matter, except that you have already admitted that Pelosi lied. So you know very well what the evidence is, and what it means. You’ve already said so.

]]> By: carlitos http://patterico.com/2009/05/14/pelosi-to-the-cia-bush-briefers-lied-to-me/comment-page-4/#comment-496014 carlitos Sat, 16 May 2009 17:34:21 +0000 http://patterico.com/?p=24866#comment-496014 (steps around another one) (steps around another one)

]]> By: timb http://patterico.com/2009/05/14/pelosi-to-the-cia-bush-briefers-lied-to-me/comment-page-4/#comment-496009 timb Sat, 16 May 2009 17:28:21 +0000 http://patterico.com/?p=24866#comment-496009 <blockquote>2. The Bush administration didn’t lie.</blockquote> Of all the funniest, most wingnuttiest, most divorced from reality statements ever uttered on this site, this is the winner. <b>ALL</b> administrations lie, all of them hide the truth, all of them act out of parochial self interest, all of them. Lincoln lied, FDR lied, Reagan lied, Bush lied, Obama has and will do so again. Grow up

2. The Bush administration didn’t lie.

Of all the funniest, most wingnuttiest, most divorced from reality statements ever uttered on this site, this is the winner.

ALL administrations lie, all of them hide the truth, all of them act out of parochial self interest, all of them. Lincoln lied, FDR lied, Reagan lied, Bush lied, Obama has and will do so again.

Grow up

]]> By: no one you know http://patterico.com/2009/05/14/pelosi-to-the-cia-bush-briefers-lied-to-me/comment-page-4/#comment-496008 no one you know Sat, 16 May 2009 17:24:59 +0000 http://patterico.com/?p=24866#comment-496008 <i>By that, I mean that someone should ask her for specifics. As to who lied to her about waterboarding, when, etc … Don’t let her off the hook by defaulting to “Bush lied”. Comment by JD — 5/16/2009 @ 10:12 am</i> I do think it's a great thing that Pelosi's lies and floundering around for her "Bush Lied"(tm) life preserver are getting so much publicity. Maybe Joe and Jane Sixpack will start seeing that oft-repeated slander for what it really is. Who's going to ask the question though, is the question. Cheney? Hannity? Tapper? BTW loved Sir Gibbs the Valiant punting the Pelosi question --and in-the-foreground Tapper's slightly disgusted expression-- at the WH presser yesterday. (Gibbs: "I know you're trying to get me involved but I won't RSVP") Why doesn't he just tell them again to "call the White House." What a weasel. By that, I mean that someone should ask her for specifics. As to who lied to her about waterboarding, when, etc … Don’t let her off the hook by defaulting to “Bush lied”.

Comment by JD — 5/16/2009 @ 10:12 am

I do think it’s a great thing that Pelosi’s lies and floundering around for her “Bush Lied”(tm) life preserver are getting so much publicity. Maybe Joe and Jane Sixpack will start seeing that oft-repeated slander for what it really is.

Who’s going to ask the question though, is the question. Cheney? Hannity? Tapper? BTW loved Sir Gibbs the Valiant punting the Pelosi question –and in-the-foreground Tapper’s slightly disgusted expression– at the WH presser yesterday. (Gibbs: “I know you’re trying to get me involved but I won’t RSVP”) Why doesn’t he just tell them again to “call the White House.” What a weasel.

]]> By: JD http://patterico.com/2009/05/14/pelosi-to-the-cia-bush-briefers-lied-to-me/comment-page-4/#comment-496006 JD Sat, 16 May 2009 17:20:41 +0000 http://patterico.com/?p=24866#comment-496006 Now Emperor is just being overtly dishonest. SHOCKA Now Emperor is just being overtly dishonest. SHOCKA

]]> By: The Emperor http://patterico.com/2009/05/14/pelosi-to-the-cia-bush-briefers-lied-to-me/comment-page-4/#comment-496005 The Emperor Sat, 16 May 2009 17:15:42 +0000 http://patterico.com/?p=24866#comment-496005 You are right Eric. She didn't need to lie, if she lied. I mean, this was 2002. Barely a year after 9/11. No one had problems with whatever the Bush Admin. felt was necessary to stop another 9/11. It would have been political incorrect for to have voiced any opposition at that time. The Dems and eps were united in the war against terror. Nobody was interested in what could be the rights of enemy combatants. This should be her line of argument. If indeed she saw the briefings and knew about waterboarding. But since she says she was not told it was being used at the time, I would give her the benefit of the doubt. At least until evidence points to the contrary. What I see is a desperate attempt by the Reps to use this against her. Reeks of vendetta. They want their pound of flesh. You are right Eric. She didn’t need to lie, if she lied. I mean, this was 2002. Barely a year after 9/11. No one had problems with whatever the Bush Admin. felt was necessary to stop another 9/11. It would have been political incorrect for to have voiced any opposition at that time. The Dems and eps were united in the war against terror. Nobody was interested in what could be the rights of enemy combatants. This should be her line of argument. If indeed she saw the briefings and knew about waterboarding. But since she says she was not told it was being used at the time, I would give her the benefit of the doubt. At least until evidence points to the contrary. What I see is a desperate attempt by the Reps to use this against her. Reeks of vendetta. They want their pound of flesh.

]]> By: JD http://patterico.com/2009/05/14/pelosi-to-the-cia-bush-briefers-lied-to-me/comment-page-4/#comment-496004 JD Sat, 16 May 2009 17:12:55 +0000 http://patterico.com/?p=24866#comment-496004 By that, I mean that someone should ask her for specifics. As to who lied to her about waterboarding, when, etc ... Don't let her off the hook by defaulting to "Bush lied". By that, I mean that someone should ask her for specifics. As to who lied to her about waterboarding, when, etc … Don’t let her off the hook by defaulting to “Bush lied”.

]]> By: JD http://patterico.com/2009/05/14/pelosi-to-the-cia-bush-briefers-lied-to-me/comment-page-4/#comment-496002 JD Sat, 16 May 2009 17:10:05 +0000 http://patterico.com/?p=24866#comment-496002 Lovie - It is far easier to admit that you are/were wrong. You inability to do so follows with what we have come to expect from you. I wish that GWB and Cheney would now also pushback on Pelosi, show he to be the deceitful partisan hack that she has proven herself to be. I suspect they will not, but it sure would be fun. Lovie – It is far easier to admit that you are/were wrong. You inability to do so follows with what we have come to expect from you.

I wish that GWB and Cheney would now also pushback on Pelosi, show he to be the deceitful partisan hack that she has proven herself to be. I suspect they will not, but it sure would be fun.

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