Comments on: Hope and Change: Obama keeps military commissions for detainees

By: Michael Ejercito

Michael Ejercito — Sun, 17 May 2009 01:21:52 +0000

I would have preferred summary execution of detainees.

There is no relation to what the GITMO detainees undergo compared to the typical prisoner experiences at Stateville – none.

Stateville has a lot more in common with Ronald McDonald house than San Quentin.

I wonder how the detainees would fare in San Quentin’s general population.

Nor much of a chance they’d be transferred to a state facility.

That is too bad.

By: Dmac

Dmac — Sat, 16 May 2009 22:47:20 +0000

You asked for a detailed description of the prisoner experience, and it was provided. Is there an additional point you’re attempting to make here, are you trying to change the subject?

By: steve

steve — Sat, 16 May 2009 21:10:46 +0000

There is no relation to what the GITMO detainees undergo compared to the typical prisoner experiences at Stateville

Nor much of a chance they’d be transferred to a state facility.

By: Dmac

Dmac — Sat, 16 May 2009 21:05:10 +0000

It’s not, I misnamed the prison. Joliet is not the maximum security prison anymore – but the violent inmates there were transfered to neighboring Stateville recently:

http://www.amazon.com/Stateville-Penitentiary-Society-Studies-Justice/dp/0226389774

As with Joliet, the gangs from Chicago control the prison – and the daily violence, rape and extortion (and sometimes murder) of prisoners have been well – documented:

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/lockdown/3830/Overview

There is no relation to what the GITMO detainees undergo compared to the typical prisoner experiences at Stateville – none.

By: steve

steve — Sat, 16 May 2009 17:56:07 +0000

I’ll give you a description of the conditions here at the Joliet Federal Pen, and what the prisoners have to deal with on a daily basis there.

Go for it.

For starters: When did it become “Joliet Federal Pen?”

By: SPQR

SPQR — Fri, 15 May 2009 21:53:05 +0000

Dmac, LOL

By: Dmac

Dmac — Fri, 15 May 2009 21:47:18 +0000

He’s in law school, SPQR – so you know whatever he says is true by definition.

By: SPQR

SPQR — Fri, 15 May 2009 21:41:02 +0000

The most humane prisoner of war camp ever and timb calls it “vile”.

That’s just irrational.

By: Dmac

Dmac — Fri, 15 May 2009 21:22:22 +0000

Obama can’t keep Gitmo open, since he pledged not to and it’s a vile place

This is Tim’s standard MO without any shreds of proof, except that he thinks so – brilliant. I hope he’s not planning on practicing the law with this type of argumentation. Please tell us why you think Gitmo’s so vile, Tim – and I’ll give you a description of the conditions here at the Joliet Federal Pen, and what the prisoners have to deal with on a daily basis there.

By: Another Chris

Another Chris — Fri, 15 May 2009 20:47:19 +0000

This is the one that Axelrod and the rest of the left will be pushing to distract from Obama’s flipflop on detainee tribunals and the torture pics. With Pelosi and the CIA going at each other like a couple of wet cats, Obama needs something to get the left back on their favorite hobby-horse–blaming Bush–rather than wringing their hands over Pelosi’s spat with an agency her boss is in charge of.