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4/16/2009

L.A. Times Reports ACLU Wants to Close Men’s Central Jail — So Then What?

Filed under: Crime,Dog Trainer — Patterico @ 12:36 am

The L.A. Times reports:

Civil rights advocates Tuesday called on the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors and Sheriff Lee Baca to close the Men’s Central Jail, saying nightmarish conditions and overcrowding undermine the inmates’ mental health.

Not mentioned: where all those inmates would go if the jail were closed. (Obvious answer: onto the streets.)

This is a paper that, to its credit, published a 2006 article on murders committed by inmates who should have been in jail, but had instead gained early release due to the Sheriff’s policy (at the time) of releasing inmates after they had served 10% of their sentences.

That policy, of course, was instituted because of scarce jail space. Which, L.A. Times editors, is a problem (I feel like I’m talking to a five-year-old here) that does not get better when you close down an entire jail.

Just what do you think is going to happen if you close down a jail, L.A. Times editors? Huh?

That’s right. More people are going to get killed. And you know that.

Don’t you think it merits a line, even one single solitary line, in your little press release for the ACLU?

20 Responses to “L.A. Times Reports ACLU Wants to Close Men’s Central Jail — So Then What?”

  1. You are so close to crossing the line and becoming me…

    Come to the Dark Side, Patrick… We have cookies…

    Scott Jacobs (90ff96)

  2. Thin Mints?

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  3. It can be arranged…

    Scott Jacobs (90ff96)

  4. Mom Blogs – Blogs for Moms…

    Anonymous (5fa9a5)

  5. Surely, surely! even Right Wing Extremists™ like you can recognize that it’s the very act of incarcerating the misunderstood young men of our big cities which causes crime in the first place. These mistreated-by-the-brutal-police young men would be just fine, upstanding, productive citizens if the police would simply leave them alone!

    And our Right Wing Extremist™ host contributes to the problem himself, by prosecuting these young men wrongly harassed and arrested by the brutal cops, using our racially biased criminal “justice” system to incarcerate the innocent.

    The sympathetic liberal Dana (3e4784)

  6. I have an idea. If the central is to be closed, Sheriff Baca, just handcuff an inmate to each passing ACLU attorney, Judge, and Democrat activist you can find.

    I bet in 24 hours the jail will be open and the liberal idiotcy rate of LA will drop dramatically.

    PCD (02f8c1)

  7. Once again, I will reference the Philadelphia prison cap of the early 90s.

    We KNOW what would happen. Been there. Done that.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  8. Why not hire Mexico to build a jail and incarcerate all the Mexican citizens that are currently overcrowding our jail ? It would probably be cheaper and Mexico needs the jobs.

    I know. I’m racist. I denounce myself.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  9. Mike K,

    Speaking of that sort of outsourcing, I can’t be the only one who’s noticed a (relative) lack of bleating from the ACLU about privately-contracted jail facilities. What’s going to stop LA County from sending some of its inmates to, say, San Bernardino County. And what’s going to stop SB County from building a prison on, say, the grounds of SoCal Logistics Airport near Victorville that some private corrections corporation can operate (presuming SB County is a little more accepting of the idea of private contracting of jails).

    Someone needs to call out the ACLU (and the LA Times) on what their real intentions are on this.

    Brad S (9f6740)

  10. #8, Mike all that jail would have to be is 2 rooms. Front room is intake for Mexican Prisoners. Back room is the bribe and release room.

    PCD (02f8c1)

  11. What’s with the need for fancy prisons anyway? Children are housed in temporary school buildings and that besieged sheriff Joe in Arizona uses tents. Let them wear the pink clothing and do without cable TV, weights and fancy eats. Bologna on white should suffice. Seriously, do they think they deserve the special treatment the much abused Guantanamo have to endure? Why not emulate the colonial French and ship their asses to Alaska to do hard manual labor? Yesh, cruel and inhuman. Might it not affect their modus operandi though? Maybe the wetbacks would prefer Mexico to the frozen tundra of the arctic?

    aoibhneas (0c6cfc)

  12. Number 11 you’re doing the right kind of thinking. I’d prefer the tent cities in Cali, but then of course the raging enviro loons and the criminals are cuddly people would double their whine power.
    It seems to me the LAT thinks if it pushes for a closedown some other compromise will be forced then they can trumpet their new successful human rights cred from their idiot towers.
    Personally I prefer a US citizenry check and an ultimatum to the nationals nations that either they take em, or we execute them.
    That should make plenty of room, and make a mild stream out of the USA a sometimes preferred option – especially if any nations call the bluff.
    Of course they can start with the hardest cases until cell equilibrium is reached.
    That should throroughly horrify the holier than thou LAT, and they might even get a bit of backlash from their own worshipful criminal underclass.
    I know, we can’t even honestly threaten to effectively kill terrorists, as hugging newly planted fauna at a forever infamous and empty Gitmo will soon be hottest lefty vacation plan, before or after their homage week at Rauls’ feet. Oh well, one can dream.

    SiliconDoc (f38773)

  13. I don’t understand how there can be overcrowding when prison building is shovel ready jobs and they are spending trillions of dollars on so-called “stimulus”.

    But there will be fewer blacks in prison because the disparity has always been the left’s big evidence that racism still exists and that statistic can’t remain while Obama is President.

    Obama will use the ACLU to set his people free.

    j curtis (c0a3a1)

  14. aoib … your idea won’t work. it’s too perfect.

    PatAZ (9d1bb3)

  15. aoibhneas wrote:

    Bologna on white should suffice.

    Oh, you decadent, insensitive brute! White bread? Not only is that totally bad for you, it’s racist besides!

    You are hereby denounced.

    The liberal Criminologist (3e4784)

  16. You know, I think j curtis might be onto something here…

    Scott Jacobs (90ff96)

  17. The ACLU is absolutely right about what a hellhole the jail is, but they’re completely off their nut in calling for it to be shut down, for two reasons. One has already been stated: there’s nowhere else to house the inmates at this time. The other is that the LA County jail is a huge deterrent when it comes to certain kinds of crimes: drunk driving most particularly. Everyone I know is deathly afraid of getting popped for a DUI, not so much because of the court-imposed penalties (which are considered more of a nuisance than anything else), but because they do not want to go to that jail. Ever. Not even for five minutes. Anyone who has ever been there has a horror story or ten to tell.

    danebramage (700c93)

  18. Sigh, if it were only that easy to shut down a hellhole or to even get some of the inmates ordered released.

    nk (26bcaa)

  19. Greetings:

    I hear that there’s going to be some space available at Guantanamo.

    11B40 (4a0ff3)

  20. A few decades ago, the ACLU was a big part of the movement to close the Insane Asylums. A few years ago one of my students had his head caved in by a crazy guy with a metal bar. The lawyers made a mint in the lawsuit over that case, and no, they didn’t sue the ACLU or the crazy guy.

    tyree (158c98)


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