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Holder may release some GTMO detainees into the U.S:
Attorney General Eric Holder said some detainees being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, may end up being released in the U.S. as the Obama administration works with foreign allies to resettle some of the prisoners.
Holder, in a briefing with reporters, said administration officials are still reviewing individual cases of the approximately 250 detainees to determine which will be put on trial and which may be released to comply with plans to close the detention facility by next year.
What could go wrong?
Blue states are the obvious solutions here, since the left pushed so hard for the closure of the facility.
What could go wrong? – Absolutely nothing, since everybody knows these are all just innocent shepherds or religious students. Why can’t the most popular President in the world convince his many friends to take in some of this innocents?
Oh, is it becuase if there is no danger they tell us there is no reason for the U.S. not to absorb them? Or is because if we tell them that they are dangerous they tell us to sod off? Go figure.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 3/18/2009 @ 11:00 pmWhen I’m on the freeways, I like to listen to talk radio. And now that my favorite guy, Larry Elder, isn’t on the air, I’ll tune into Michael Savage around 3-4 PM,PDT.
I admit, reluctantly of course, that driving while wearing a smoking jacket is somewhat affected. But if someone were to catch me listening to Savage, that jacket would provide the modifying influence.
In any case, Savage mocked Holder’s decision by saying that the AG was being sensitive to the terrorists. MS said that terrorism is their job and it is the Obama administration’s responsibility to allow these individuals to earn a decent wage. That is, to to work at what they do best. Savage mocks well.
PC14 (82e46c) — 3/18/2009 @ 11:06 pmJust one question:
Carlos Hathcock (64ac21) — 3/18/2009 @ 11:21 pmWill DoJ give us advance notice of where and when?
We have lots of room here in Minnesota. Bring ’em up here, take ’em up north to the wilderness areas, and release ’em.
In terms of how much of a challenge it would be, I’m guessing it would fall somewhere in between the true gamefarm experience and tough natural regrowth terrain, but if they keep the price of the license down, and maybe think in terms of multiple limits, or even a motorized hunt, it could really catch on.
bobby b (4baf73) — 3/18/2009 @ 11:27 pmAdd those 250 to the 200,000 Hamas and Hezbolah members that President Obama is going to resettling in the US.
tyree (2f5c09) — 3/18/2009 @ 11:39 pmThis is going to be a target-rich invironement!
Carlos Hathcock (64ac21) — 3/18/2009 @ 11:48 pmbobby b, If you guys would consider the helicopter-hunt, thing—I’m in!
Cause, I just want to be above all those freakin’ mosquitoes — if it’s a summer-time license.
PC14 (82e46c) — 3/18/2009 @ 11:50 pmdrop them off in my yard: i’ve already got a “No Trespassing” sign.
11B10, long ago.
redc1c4 (9c4f4a) — 3/19/2009 @ 12:26 amhey, PC, you’d probably not want to be in that helicopter during prime skeeter time up there.
I mean, generally it’s okay, but fly through in the wrong season and the bigger ones are all trying to grab the copter and mate with it, and that’s a disturbing place to be.
bobby b (4baf73) — 3/19/2009 @ 12:35 amI am pretty sure all the Gitmo guys have just gone back to goat herding, so why worry?
We need some new goat herders here in the good old US of A, from what I hear that industry is totally hurting and Obambi is looking to add lots of new jobs, so this will only help.
ML (14488c) — 3/19/2009 @ 1:22 amWherever these guys go, they better stay away from Stashiu. Rember what he told Pat: [object]:
“I can tell you that if I ever saw a detainee face-to-face here in the States, I would immediately assume that I was targeted and do my best to kill them without further warning. If I turned out to be wrong about their intent, I could live with that.’’
Hax Vobiscum (4012df) — 3/19/2009 @ 3:23 amSo, we are to assume that Hacks’ prior apology to Stashiu was disingenuous.
Deacon JD, C.O.R. (df4164) — 3/19/2009 @ 3:50 amCould the Obama Administration really be this dumb?…
Is there anything more to say? Could they really be this stupid?
Common Sense Political Thought (73d96f) — 3/19/2009 @ 4:22 am……
I think that this is a wonderful idea. I would like Holder to convert a portion of his house into a halfway house and host several.
WilliamP (7500bb) — 3/19/2009 @ 4:35 am“So, we are to assume that Hacks’”
How boldly dumb of you to admit that, Deacon, in the imperative form. Though you really should speak for yourself on that.
Hax Vobiscum (4012df) — 3/19/2009 @ 5:07 amYes, they could
Horatio (55069c) — 3/19/2009 @ 5:22 amThank God we dodged a bullet with that Palin bimbo. At least this crowd knows what it’s doing. Heh!
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 3/19/2009 @ 6:22 amI still think we should release them in Murtha’s District; after all, the citizens there still re – elected him, even after his continuous streak of ass – hattery.
Dmac (49b16c) — 3/19/2009 @ 6:24 amBill Ayers would love to keep a bunch of them in his basement.
Old Coot (a71844) — 3/19/2009 @ 6:38 amOh my! My husband was right! Years back he predicted that the detainees were going to end up driving cabs in NYC!!
bio mom (a1e126) — 3/19/2009 @ 6:52 amNo, put one with the weapons he was captured with in the Lincoln Bedroom when the Obamas are home. What a perfect time for the Secret Service to go on strike.
PCD (db2059) — 3/19/2009 @ 6:53 amWe could just let the Chinese, Indian and Israeli secret services know where they live.
nk (0a1ba0) — 3/19/2009 @ 7:30 amCan’t wait till they get a personal injury lawyer or better yet, ban together for a class caction.
Jimminy'cricket (637168) — 3/19/2009 @ 7:52 amcaction = action
Jimminy'cricket (637168) — 3/19/2009 @ 7:53 amIt’s just business as usual for Eric Holder. It’s not like this will be the first time he did this.
Richard (d23a8a) — 3/19/2009 @ 8:00 amPCD wrote:
Oh, you are just so denounced! 🙂
The politically correct Dana (3e4784) — 3/19/2009 @ 8:45 amRichard – Holder mysteriously sought pardons for those FALN members even though they weren’t asking for the pardons themselves. Who was behind their pardons? Has anybody fessed up?
The big suspicion is still that it was done to support Hillary’s run for Senate in New York in 2000.
Holder’s selective memory is amazing. During his comfirmation hearings earlier this year he claimed he didn’t know anything about Marc Rich prior to seeking his pardon, conveniently forgetting he had prosecuted on of his companies several years earlier for the Justice Department.
daleyrocks (5d22c0) — 3/19/2009 @ 8:54 amThe big suspicion is still that it was done to support Hillary’s run for Senate in New York in 2000.
Daleyrocks, yes that is my understanding of why it was done. It was part of the carefully orchestrated plan to first get Hillary elected to the Senate and then to the Presidency. I guess they forgot that “The best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men / Gang aft a-gley.”
Richard (3fe2c9) — 3/19/2009 @ 10:18 amSo, if a Guantanamo detainee kills an American citizen after his release into the United States, will it be President Obama’s fault for releasing him into the United States, or will it be President Bush’s fault for his being in Guantanamo in the first place?
The inquisitive Dana (3e4784) — 3/19/2009 @ 1:13 pm[…] General Eric Holder has announced that some Gitmo detainees will end up being released, free as a bird, within the boarders of the United S… Two months ago, when Obama signed the executive order to close Club Gitmo, making us a nation less […]
Gitmo Terrorists in Our Backyard | Axis of Right (4bdcf7) — 3/19/2009 @ 1:33 pmI reluctantly live in a Blue State, but I don’t want them here–send them to the White House, or pehaps the AG has a spare room he isn’t using.
rochf (ae9c58) — 3/19/2009 @ 4:07 pmSend them to live with David R and Hacks.
JD (6323ee) — 3/19/2009 @ 4:16 pmIt’s entirely possible that there has been a more corrupt and dopey AG than Holder, but no names come to mind. He is a disgrace. This policy will get Americans killed. It is entirely avoidable. It is being pursued as a cynical political ploy, nothing more. Appalling.
Scott Kaufer (857688) — 3/20/2009 @ 11:54 am*Yawn* More bait by the troll. It’s funny how I haven’t said anything to (or even about) the “journalist” in at least a week, yet he tosses that out there like it’s some kind of point. Yes, the quote is accurate and still holds true.
When a terrorist threatens to have your family killed before cutting off your head, it’s apparently unenlightened to be prepared to defend them and yourself. Call me unenlightened then.
This is why it’s worthless to respond to anything the “journalist” puts out. He will always go back to his vile ways. When he apologized to avoid getting banned, the reason I merely noted it was because I neither accepted it or believed it was made in good faith. I was wrong to say that the “journalist” could make a valuable contribution here if he only made the effort. The effort is clearly beyond him.
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 3/20/2009 @ 12:56 pmI like bobby b suggestion in #4. I believe that Americana would like to get involved in hunting our enemies and these enemy combatants fill the role nicely. Just have an announced release and let Americans eliminate them. We will have done our civic duty.
Minnesota could make money issueing the hunting licenses.
Eris (a09a9d) — 3/21/2009 @ 5:19 amThey shouldn’t be brought here for any reason. If they’re going to be released, send them home or drop them off where they were picked up. Let it be known that most gave up valuable intel and it will be more difficult for them to rejoin the fight because they won’t be trusted as easily.
Despite how the media portrays them, these are not innocents just randomly picked up or paid for with a “bounty”. They were fighting or training to fight… if not against us, against someone else as insurgents using terror tactics. Bringing them to the U.S. is an incredibly stupid idea.
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 3/21/2009 @ 11:57 amEar Leader is no better at reconciling American values with Gitmo than Doofus ’43 was. I don’t blame either because I cannot reconcile it either.
From a pragmatic point of view, I think part of the problem is AG Antonio Gonzalez’s Justice Department having tried to reinvent the wheel. For example, we had no problem “repatriating” Nazi war criminals to the Soviet Union knowing full well that their due process was going to be a 7.63 Tokarev slug at the base of their skulls in the basement of Lubyanka.
nk (814cbe) — 3/21/2009 @ 12:09 pmStash writes:
“apparently it’s unenlightened to be prepared to defend them and yourself. Call me unenlightened then.”
Nothing unenlightened about self-defense, though it’s easy to see why you’d feel that merely quoting you constitutes an accusation that you’re unenlightened.
The unenlightened, and deeply paranoid, part is where you brag about not having a conscience, saying you could accidentally kill a detainee and then not lose any sleep over it.
As for your continued whining about my apology: what has that got to do with anything? I apologized for mischaracterizing one of your remarks. That doesn’t mean I suddenly agree with whatever weird paranoid bragging about murdering detainees you choose to spout.
Hax Vobiscum (23258e) — 3/22/2009 @ 4:21 pmI really wouldn’t push Patterico today, HV. Really.
Eric Blair (61dcb2) — 3/22/2009 @ 4:23 pmOn the other hand: have at it. But do review Patterico’s comments about how he values Stash, first.
Eric Blair (61dcb2) — 3/22/2009 @ 4:24 pmHack is still gnawing at Stash’s ankles? And with his usual vile little inuendo. All the personality and character of an untrained chihuahua, that’s Hack.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/22/2009 @ 4:45 pmThis was to prove to Patterico that the apology was not made in good faith. At that time, I said that I wasn’t going to take the bait because I knew where the “journalist” was going to go with it. His comment on this thread shows that he not only didn’t read the articles before saying I had no credibility and it was “case closed”, it shows that calling me “gutless” was just another attempt to draw me out. Induction into the “Whine Club” and accusing me of whining about the apology had the same purpose… looking for a way to call me a murderer. (The paranoid part was especially cute.)
I said absolutely nothing to or about him for over a week and he still tried to get someone to take the bait. He’s got nothing but vileness to contribute.
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 3/22/2009 @ 5:06 pmMy skin crawls to think bunkertrollHax is a “journalist”. As if my profession doesn’t already have enough to answer for.
I hope it’s at some lefty site and not some supposedly objective pub.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 3/22/2009 @ 5:28 pmThanks Brad. I’m glad to know you continue to be affected so deeply by my comments.
Hax Vobiscum (23258e) — 3/22/2009 @ 5:42 pmBrother Brad,
Nobody sane would class you with this type of “journalist”. Ever. I would venture that all professions have their bad apples. I have great respect for you, shared by many here I’m sure. That’s why this “journalist” is always referred to in quotes… his title is in name only, not in any form of professionalism.
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 3/22/2009 @ 5:43 pmSo, this should lay to rest the idea that it ever actually apologized, in any meaningful manner, and if it did, it clearly was not extended in good faith. A vile little thing it is.
JD (3f2bdf) — 3/22/2009 @ 5:46 pmThank you, Stashiu3.
I was just expressing my own disgust at finding bunkertrollHax allegedly in the same profession.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 3/22/2009 @ 5:47 pmAnd notice the childish little taunts from a supposed adult. Dmac called it, long ago.
Eric Blair (e4e95a) — 3/22/2009 @ 5:51 pmI once posited that the “journalist” was actually a scriptwriter for 1-900 number advertisements. By his own standards, since it was never denied I can assume it is true.
Stashiu3 (460dc1) — 3/22/2009 @ 5:53 pm