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	<title>Comments on: Reason #741 That I&#8217;m Having a Tough Time Caring About the Gradual Death of the L.A. Times</title>
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	<description>Harangues that just make sense</description>
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		<title>By: vince52</title>
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		<dc:creator>vince52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original point of the post is well taken. What floors me about the story is the 10 year sentences for people who were probably thinking that they were committing a misdemeanor.  Would a sentence of, say, four years have given potential wiretappers the feeling that wiretapping is a risk worth taking?  I&#039;m in federal court occasionally for sentencings, and it blows me away how judges just wipe out people&#039;s lives for crimes that, while definitely worth punishing, ain&#039;t worth a decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original point of the post is well taken. What floors me about the story is the 10 year sentences for people who were probably thinking that they were committing a misdemeanor.  Would a sentence of, say, four years have given potential wiretappers the feeling that wiretapping is a risk worth taking?  I&#8217;m in federal court occasionally for sentencings, and it blows me away how judges just wipe out people&#8217;s lives for crimes that, while definitely worth punishing, ain&#8217;t worth a decade.</p>
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		<title>By: slp</title>
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		<dc:creator>slp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Prosecutors say&quot; is simply poor writing by an incompetent reporter.

There is no excuse.

Drop those two words and you have an accurate lede.  There is not even a reason to substitute &quot;who were found guilty by a jury of playing roles.&quot; 

&quot;Three co-defendants who played roles in an elaborate wiretapping scheme by Hollywood private detective Anthony Pellicano were sentenced to federal prison today.&quot;

The Times laid off all the good reporters and only the idiots are left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Prosecutors say&#8221; is simply poor writing by an incompetent reporter.</p>
<p>There is no excuse.</p>
<p>Drop those two words and you have an accurate lede.  There is not even a reason to substitute &#8220;who were found guilty by a jury of playing roles.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Three co-defendants who played roles in an elaborate wiretapping scheme by Hollywood private detective Anthony Pellicano were sentenced to federal prison today.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Times laid off all the good reporters and only the idiots are left.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel we are in a kind of Zen period, waiting for the LAT to die. Or would that be a meta period. Anyway, I think perhaps a haiku contest would be in order, to illuminate this interregnum before the final cataclysmic event, as the Times&#039; squishy center begins not to hold. (Your opera/music post I suppose has inspired this.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel we are in a kind of Zen period, waiting for the LAT to die. Or would that be a meta period. Anyway, I think perhaps a haiku contest would be in order, to illuminate this interregnum before the final cataclysmic event, as the Times&#8217; squishy center begins not to hold. (Your opera/music post I suppose has inspired this.)</p>
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		<title>By: Typical White Person</title>
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		<dc:creator>Typical White Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Experts Say!
According to sources close to Obama

using that nonsense lets one say anything 

and

you can protect your &quot;sources&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experts Say!<br />
According to sources close to Obama</p>
<p>using that nonsense lets one say anything </p>
<p>and</p>
<p>you can protect your &#8220;sources&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Raving Theist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Raving Theist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does LAT say when a Republican politician is sentenced?That might shed some light on this practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does LAT say when a Republican politician is sentenced?That might shed some light on this practice.</p>
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		<title>By: AD - RtR/OS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AD - RtR/OS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good, daley; very good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good, daley; very good!</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eliot Spitzer used to SAY all sorts of nasty things about people in the press as Attorney General in New York.  It turns out that he didn&#039;t like to go to court or follow through on a lot of the things he said, however, if you look at his record.  Hax, as usual, is all wet on his word parsing here.  Hax, call home, your village is missing its idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eliot Spitzer used to SAY all sorts of nasty things about people in the press as Attorney General in New York.  It turns out that he didn&#8217;t like to go to court or follow through on a lot of the things he said, however, if you look at his record.  Hax, as usual, is all wet on his word parsing here.  Hax, call home, your village is missing its idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In another example of journalistic excellence, the Chicago Tribune mentioned the &quot;tea party&quot; movement &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0224edit1feb24,0,4718532.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;last month&lt;/a&gt;, but failed to note that one occurred this week outside their front door. Now that it happened, and wasn&#039;t covered by them, they are mentioning &lt;a&gt; a wild conspiracy theory&lt;/a&gt; that originated with Playboy !

Great journalism &lt;a&gt; strikes again&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In another example of journalistic excellence, the Chicago Tribune mentioned the &#8220;tea party&#8221; movement <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0224edit1feb24,0,4718532.story" rel="nofollow">last month</a>, but failed to note that one occurred this week outside their front door. Now that it happened, and wasn&#8217;t covered by them, they are mentioning <a> a wild conspiracy theory</a> that originated with Playboy !</p>
<p>Great journalism <a> strikes again</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivian Louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivian Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The criminal-as-victim is embedded deeply in to most liberal&#039;s brains.  You can&#039;t get around it or retrain it.  I&#039;ve tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The criminal-as-victim is embedded deeply in to most liberal&#8217;s brains.  You can&#8217;t get around it or retrain it.  I&#8217;ve tried.</p>
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		<title>By: AMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also:

&gt; One by one, each of Pellicano’s &lt;b&gt;convicted-by-a-jury&lt;/b&gt; co-defendants stood in front of U.S. District Judge Dale S. Fischer...

The bolded part didn&#039;t get through the multiple layers of editors and fact-checkers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also:</p>
<p>&gt; One by one, each of Pellicano’s <b>convicted-by-a-jury</b> co-defendants stood in front of U.S. District Judge Dale S. Fischer&#8230;</p>
<p>The bolded part didn&#8217;t get through the multiple layers of editors and fact-checkers.</p>
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