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This Just In: Obama Didn’t Tell the Truth About Everything in His Speech

Filed under: General,Obama — Patterico @ 7:07 am

Pretty good fact-check of the speech here. A sample:

President Barack Obama knows Americans are unhappy that the government could rescue people who bought mansions beyond their means.

But his assurance Tuesday night that only the deserving will get help rang hollow.

Even officials in his administration, many supporters of the plan in Congress and the Federal Reserve chairman expect some of that money will go to people who used lousy judgment.

. . . .

OBAMA: “Over the next two years, this plan will save or create 3.5 million jobs.”

THE FACTS: This is a recurrent Obama formulation. But job creation projections are uncertain even in stable times, and some of the economists relied on by Obama in making his forecast acknowledge a great deal of uncertainty in their numbers.

The president’s own economists, in a report prepared last month, stated, “It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error.”

Beyond that, it’s unlikely the nation will ever know how many jobs are saved as a result of the stimulus.

This business about creating “or saving” jobs is particularly annoying. As Matt Welch said: “Is there anyone listening to that that doesn’t see the B.S. in it?”

But in the whole speech, probably the most aggravating statement was this: “I’m proud that we passed the recovery plan free of earmarks . . .” Now, if there weren’t technically “earmarks” in it then it’s not technically “false.” But the implication that there is no pork in the stimulus — an implication that Obama repeats constantly — is the biggest lie imaginable.

But hey. The Big Lie is the one that’s easiest to miss.

86 Responses to “This Just In: Obama Didn’t Tell the Truth About Everything in His Speech”

  1. In a year or two, Democrats will cringe at these lies, but by that time, more and better ones will be told and they will point to those as “truths.”

    I also suspect that the 3.5 million jobs created or saved was a misspeak… 3.5 million pork barrel projects created or saved is more accurate. :)

    GM Roper (85dcd7)

  2. There were no earmarks. All of the pork was right there in the bill. At least we think so. Everyday we seem to hear something new that was in the bill. I found it remarkable all of the things that he claimed credit for last night, Leftist policy initiatives, that were apparently in the “stimulus” package. Apparently social programming is now “stimulus” as well. Or, they were afraid to actually address the policy positions openly.

    JD (0e6191)

  3. When politicians speak of job creation, they never consider the “forgotten.”

    From Bastiat in the 18th Century, through William Graham Sumner in the 19th Century, reputable economists have been pointing out that government “job creation” does not exist in a vacuum.

    The money and resources to “create” the job would have been used, in the private sector, to create a job. The private sector job would serve a better economic purpose than the government job.

    Longwalker (4e0dda)

  4. It really is breath-taking to watch him lie so blatantly, and sad how the MSM just laps it up.

    JD (0e6191)

  5. If “earmarks” mean “secret pork”, then having all pork out in the open is actually an accomplishment.

    One I would laud more if I thought it was going to be the norm.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  6. Then again, on the “Uranium from Niger” scale, this speech was pretty full of it.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  7. Hell, I’m not worried. “Nobody messes with Joe”.

    Hey, wait a minute. I thought we were through with the “smoke ’em out” rhetoric. I must have thought wrong.

    KB (5a6552)

  8. Well, nobody “messes” with Joe, they just put him in a round room and tell him to urinate in the corner.

    SPQR (72771e)

  9. He will “create” 3-5 million jobs –
    That will be the size of the Civilian Security Corps that will be an adjunct of the WH staff
    (ACORN in the WH basement).

    AD - RtR/OS (5b97d9)

  10. One more speech from Obama or Tim Geithner, and I’ll be in the soup kitchen line myself.

    SPQR (72771e)

  11. Still have a job? Obama saved it for you!

    Jim Treacher (796deb)

  12. Obama has learned nothing from the past 45 years of social experimentation.

    Unfortunately, we will have to learn it all over again.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  13. The stock market today is providing its own judgement on Obama’s speech

    Steverino (69d941)

  14. The stock market today is providing its own judgement on Obama’s speech

    As will the gold market

    Horatio (55069c)

  15. If he thinks america invented the automobile, then the US is really screwed. GERMANY invented it, and STILL builds the safest, most fuel efficient cars in the world today. Just another clueless american when it comes to the auto world.

    German cars RULE (6c03a6)

  16. And if we lose 3.499999 million jobs?


    jamrat (089a09)

  17. 1885…Karl Benz tests first motor-carriage powered by internal-combustion engine;

    1893…Duryea Bros. test first American motor-carriage powered by internal-combustion engine.

    1965…Congress lays foundation for destruction of American automobile industry with passage of The Clean Air Act.

    AD - RtR/OS (5b97d9)

  18. Ho Hum…. Just more campaign drivel… Oh, and how about the transcontinental railroad being built during the Civil War! NOT! Duh, um, ah, we were kinda busy during the Civil War what with WAR and EVERYTHING!!!! Kinda built the transcon RR after that little skirmish called the Civil War…. How f*cking dumb is this guy???? Oh, that’s right, he got the info from Biden…. God help us, we’re screwed!!!

    J. Raymond Wright (d83ab3)

  19. After Obama insulted a German auto god, are Germans going to riot and burn American cars like Muslims riot after every slight? Do American’s owe Germany an apology?

    Perfect Sense (0922fa)

  20. Oh, and how about the transcontinental railroad being built during the Civil War!

    Maybe he was thinking of the Homestead Act which was passed in 1862 and which did provide evidence of a government looking to the future. Actually the South had blocked it out of concerns about slavery. He’s not very well educated, after all, and he may have known something was going on in the early 60s.

    This guy has a typical Ivy League liberal education from the late 20th century, which means he is an expert on every grievance against and every transgression of the white man, and not much else. I’m seeing it in my daughter’s education right now. No wonder they vote for this empty suit.

    Mike K (8df289)

  21. #17, I am pretty sure I pointed this out last night.

    Fire side chats with FDR on the TV. Internet. Global Warming. A Democrat freed the Slaves ……

    Next thing we know, it was George Washington who signed the Magna Carta.

    Obama über alles!!!!! (da3d2f)

  22. Anyone think to tap the tingly feelings going up and down Matthews’ legs and route the power to the local power grid?

    PCD (7fe637)

  23. What Obama says is true in the fuzzy pink world of liberal fantasy where what he says is right because he hopes it is.

    What bugs me most is the unchecked historical illusions. They betray a reckless disregard for truth, and an arrogant unwillingness to verify that can only come from living a life surrounded by sycophants.

    Obama is contentedly ignorant as only those self-deceived can be.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  24. You are so right, he does lie, Mr. Patterico. My Baracky lie what I hate most is the one where he’s all like “There are those that say America must never change anything ever and stay the same in every way except for expanding no-bid contracts and buying fancy drapes. But I reject the failed policies of the past!” and I hear that and I think you are so high. No one says that you dirty socialist idiot. That’s just trickery. Baracky is so embarrassingly Hugo Chavez you see grown men stocking up on guns and vienna sausages. He did you know they make lite ones?

    happyfeet (71f55e)

  25. Another big lie is Obama saying the US aren’t quitters, when he wanted to quit Iraq and leave the country to bloody genocide.
    The US (meaning red blooded republicans) are not quitters, the democraps, well that’s another story.
    As for the jobs figure, why doesn’t Obama just say, I will create or save 133 MILLION jobs. After all, there are about 143 million people still employed, it’s not likely that another ten million will be discharged, so he has plenty of breathing room. If the jobless rate stays where it is or even declines slightly he can claim credit for saving all those jobs. If the rate goes below 133 million it won’t matter what he says cause we’ll be in a depression.

    eaglewingz08 (e40a12)

  26. I want to understand his rationale for how raising corporate taxes and getting rid of loopholes is going to get rid of incentives to send American jobs overseas. Shit, with all the crap he’s pulling it’s creating incentives for corporations to redomesticate overseas to get out from under all the additional burdens he’s creating let alone moving production overseas.

    Heckuva Job Baracky!

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  27. I have questions about the housing ordeal as well. Honestly, there is no efficient way of determining who deserves a break and who does not. Therefore, I’m sure there will be plenty of “undeserving” homeowners that have not completed their payments honestly who will still receive aid. But will this financial boost help enough responsible homeowners to make up for it? Hopefully. Still, once again, where is all of this aid money coming from?
    I watched an interesting video that summarizes Obama’s State of the Nation address, adding numerous perspectives as well. It also includes the GOP response from Gov. Jindal and an off-color comment that was not intended for air. It’s worth watching:

    Kt D (375fdc)

  28. To reach his goals O’Dumbo has to get the stock market back up to 15,000 and the unemployment rate down to 4.5% where it was when the democrats started the destruction of the nation. Then he can add the 3.5 million jobs he has tucked up his butt. If you believe anything he says I have some land to sell you, but we’ll have to wait until next fall when the lake goes back down.

    Scrapiron (996c34)

  29. Honestly, there is no efficient way of determining who deserves a break and who does not. Therefore, I’m sure there will be plenty of “undeserving” homeowners that have not completed their payments honestly who will still receive aid.

    There are a few basics. How about owner occupied, 20% down payment, proof of income supplied with loan docs. That would be pretty basic. Once those cases had been taken care of, maybe we could include 10% down.

    For example.

    In case the subscription wall blocks that:

    In 2005, her husband, Zachary Campbell, accepted a transfer from San Diego to Phoenix to manage a recreational-vehicle store. For the first time, the Campbells figured, they could afford their own home, though that meant moving to Maricopa, about 20 miles from Mr. Campbell’s store. They scraped together a $50,000 down payment to buy a new four-bedroom home in Maricopa, for $250,000. It came with black granite countertops, cherry kitchen cabinets and a pool in back.

    Today, Ms. Campbell figures, the home is worth perhaps half what they paid in 2005.

    Even that might be optimistic. Along a nearby highway, young men hired by a local real estate brokerage wave red signs touting “Homes From $69.9 K.”

    That’s Maricopa, Arizona, near Phoenix. Anyway, this isn’t rocket science.

    Of course, it also wouldn’t reach the target class that Barney Frank and Maxine Waters are interested in.

    Mike K (f89cb3)

  30. You didn’t read the whole article did you mike?

    One of the hardest-hit areas is Maricopa Meadows, a cookie-cutter housing development at the southern end of Maricopa. “We got in on the ground floor,” Christian Price says ruefully.

    Mr. Price, a financial adviser with an office in Phoenix, and his wife, Cindy, a photographer, liked the small-town feel. They paid about $180,000 for a four-bedroom home in early 2005. By late 2006, Mr. Price figures, the value had rocketed to about $270,000 amid a “frenzy” of speculation. Now, with foreclosure sales dragging down values, he thinks the home would sell for only around $50,000.

    Mr. Price, who is president of the Meadows homeowner association, estimates that around one in eight of the 1,600 houses has been foreclosed, and several hundred of them are empty. He says lower-income people who previously couldn’t afford new homes now are buying them here for $50,000 to $100,000. It’s good that housing has become more affordable, Mr. Price says. Still, he says, “this is going to sound terrible, but it brings in a different caliber of people.”

    Meanwhile, residents are wondering who will complete projects left unfinished. Steve Velaski, an occupational therapist who moved into a new gated community called Province in 2005, likes his home on Lemon Drop Drive, which is near Jawbreaker Drive and Candyland Place. His wife, Gayle, enjoys the posh fitness center available to residents. But Mr. Velaski is less thrilled by the view from his backyard: a giant mound of dirt left when the community’s builder went into bankruptcy. Mr. Velaski and other residents wonder who will acquire the empty land and whether whatever is eventually built there will blend well with their upscale homes.

    Mr. Smith hopes that by creating more parks and other amenities and attracting more employers to this bedroom community he can make people want to stay here. “We have a very promising future,” he says.

    Rudy Dominguez, who administrates computer networks, will have to think that over. On a recent Saturday morning, he was hanging out in a white T-shirt and beige shorts at a garage sale being held by a neighbor who is moving away. Mr. Dominguez believes his Maricopa house now is worth about half the $213,000 he paid in 2006. He can afford the mortgage, but thinks the lender should reduce his payments. “If they’re not going to help me,” he says, “they can have it.”

    Not everyone was stupid. I’d venture to say most people weren’t. I didn’t do anything stupid at all and I’m down 250 G’s. And you idiots want to get rid of social security.
    The point jackass is to help the economy, and unfortunately that includes the idiots.
    As Hilzoy wrote recently if you want to separate the wheat from the chaff it costs money. You want to hire the bureaucracy to do it right, fine by me. But you don’t. You want to live in the most powerful nation on earth, but you don’t want to pay for it. Boner’s free lunch.

    Republican don’t like gub’mint so they suck at running it, Katrina, the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, the entire f’ing country.
    You blew it. The economy is in the toilet… for everybody.
    The banks are bankrupt and won’t admit it. Temporary nationalization is the only answer now. And stricter regulation. Don’t you love that word r-e-g-u-l-a-t-i-o-n.
    Your knowledge of economic history is sh*t.

    P. Favor (34f469)

  31. “And you idiots want to get rid of social security.”

    P. Favor – Who wants to do this?

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  32. Por favor graces us with its daily dose of idiocy.

    JD (f7890a)

  33. P. Favor – Who is responsible for bidding the value of that home up from $180,000 to $270,000 in such a short time? Who is responsible for the developer going belly up before he could finish his subdivision? It sure sounds like he had a helluva lot of imbedded equity in the properties based on the price appreciation the article describes.

    Hasn’t Arizona ever had any ups and downs in real estate prices before or are you too young to remember?

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  34. I think I’m one of the furthest right who wander this blog. I do not want to get rid of social security. I want to fix it, change it from its current ponzi scheme. I don’t know anyone this far right or anyone to the left of me who wants to get rid of social security.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  35. embedded not imbedded

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  36. I don’t want to live in the most powerful dirty socialist nation on earth what is contemptuous of individual liberty and free enterprise though, Mr. Favor. I just want to live in America.

    happyfeet (71f55e)

  37. JD – Don’t let the steak win.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  38. Wanting to change social security to be solvent and workable past 2040 != “I want to get rid of social security and throw grandma out on the street”

    But hyperbole is such a great tool to use when other arguments fail, isn’t it?

    steve miller (a90638)

  39. Social Security was never opposed to be so important as you dirty socialists think, Mr. Economic History. It was on top of the part where you work and save and plan for a better tomorrow. Ok I’ll stop and let you digest that.

    happyfeet (71f55e)

  40. P. Favor – Pasted below is a link to OFHEO’s website which has a variey of measures for tracking real estate prices, transactions, etc. Their data on the Phoenix area doesn’t match what is described in the article, but it is an index, and individual developments or properties will vary.

    Me, I blame Bush.

    Plus Kyoto.

    But not Halliburton.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  41. How can “save or create 3.5 million jobs” possibly be construed as true or false?

    It’s a prediction.

    No problem to call it a wildly over-optimistic or unrealistic or somesuch. But spinning it as deception?

    Bush lied about quite a few things: his “certainty” about WMD, his own administration’s cost estimates for the prescription drug benefit and the demographic distribution of his tax cuts. But no one should call out his predictions of job creation as examples of “lying.”

    In 2003, trying to win support for tax cuts, the Bush Administration predicted that with the passage of the tax-cut measure, 5.5 million jobs would be created in the 18 months from June 2003 through December 2004. In the first nine months of this 18-month period, a relatively modest 689,000 jobs were created, just 13 percent of the Administration’s projection.

    If you’re going to call Obama’s 3.5 million estimate a fib, then you should be calling Bush’s forecast a bald-assed lie.

    Hax Vobiscum (23258e)

  42. Obama again discards tradition and in his State of the Union address does not even use that phrase which normally starts the presentation.

    As to his ‘saves or creates’ is is a simple gimmick that is about as likely as trying to prove a negative.

    DayTrader (ea6549)

  43. ’twasn’t a state of the union address. ’twas a mere address to congress to hype his super-spendy, extra-taxy budget plan to destroy 230 years of US history, ’twas all.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  44. It was called “privatization.” Oh so long ago.
    last year? last month?
    Why are you bluffing? Do you really think I’m that ignorant of your party’s recent history? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re just lying and not that stupid.
    If the democrats had caved on social security things would be so so so much worse. How’s the IRA doing?

    My chest still hurts from howling with laughter watching Jindal last night. “Oh God” indeed. It was painful. “Bobby Brady” Exorcist! [google them, please!]
    You worry about Social Security 40 years down the line but can’t even wrap your head around the the problems we face NOW.

    “I want to fix it, change it from its current ponzi scheme.”

    Hurrah, die Butter ist Alle!
    Oh… the humanity.

    P. Favor (48d752)

  45. I have decided Por Favor has the same quality as Peter and imdw. I’m beginning to wonder if Por Favor is a certain missing troll-like substance that just recently vanished.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  46. My chest still hurts from howling with laughter watching Jindal last night.

    Look over there BUNNIES!!!!!!

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  47. It’s a response-bot. Certain words lead some automated program to spew canned phrases.

    There’s no more intelligence there than there is behind Joe “FDR on TV!” Biden.

    steve miller (a90638)

  48. Hax, I think the issue is “create or save.” Bush never said tax cuts would “save” jobs. At least have the courage to stick up for what you believe in.

    Por Favor, you don’t help the economy by giving money away to idiots because by its very definition idiots will crew it up again. You give it to the most productive.

    Obama über alles!!!!! (da3d2f)

  49. #41 wrote:
    How can “save or create 3.5 million jobs” possibly be construed as true or false?
    It’s a prediction.

    Democrat spending programs are now up to $1.4 trillion. For 3.5 million “saved” jobs, this equals $400,000 per “saved” job. Despite this huge cost per job, the dull witted liberals want to continue to spend, spend, spend! What could go wrong?

    Perfect Sense (0922fa)

  50. I think if laughter makes your chest hurt you’re doing it wrong. Even my boss person who is hopey changey said Baracky was annoying last night. It was just a bunch of drama and we’ve heard all that for over a year now and why doesn’t he just get to work he said.

    happyfeet (4eacbc)

  51. I didn’t do anything stupid at all and I’m down 250 G’s.

    That’s interesting, since you certainly sound quite stupid in every posting here. Don’t get out much, eh?

    Dmac (49b16c)

  52. How can “save or create 3.5 million jobs” possibly be construed as true or false?

    It’s a prediction.

    No. Baracky states it as fact, and the MSM presents it as same.

    It follows with all of the standard Leftist canards.

    Por favor – Get help. Quit projecting.

    JD (0e6191)

  53. How can “save or create 3.5 million jobs” possibly be construed as true or false?

    It’s a prediction.

    Yes, it’s a prediction. But it can’t be measured. How can you tell how many jobs will be saved? How do you know how many jobs will disappear absent any action?

    The fact is, you don’t. Obama doesn’t, either. Nobody knows. So, he’s made a prediction that he can’t validate, and he knows he can’t do it.

    But spinning it as deception?

    Yes, it’s deception. Barak can’t possibly predict how many jobs his program will save. To make any claim is a lie.

    Steverino (69d941)

  54. no one messes w/ joe
    unless it’s his wife/then he’d have to shoot her
    so joe better move down mexico way
    cuz i thinks a hangmans gonna put a rope around him
    an opening 4joes wife/a saved or created job?
    Hey Joe

    pdbuttons (bbdd05)

  55. If Baracky was wanting to be something other than deceptive, that whole “or save” would not be in there, as it is a complete bullshit metric, one which cannot be measured, in any way, shape, or manner.

    JD (0e6191)

  56. No earmarks, but plenty of pork.

    Does he really believe it is the word that bothers us? Can’t he figure out that using government money to return political favors is the problem, not what it is called?

    I guess is all depends on what the definition of “is” is.

    tyree (158c98)

  57. […] package that he said will save or create 3.5 million jobs, with most in the private sector.  This statement has never smelled right with me.  How do you determine whether or not you “saved” a […]

    Thoughts on Obama’s Address | Caffeinated Thoughts (84d4bb)

  58. Why are you bluffing? Do you really think I’m that ignorant of your party’s recent history? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re just lying and not that stupid.

    I did read the entire article that I linked and your comment is incoherent. The later comment above suggests that you are an idiot or on drugs; or both.

    The people buying the $50,000 houses are welcome to them if they can pay, and that means documenting income and down payment.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  59. More a wearer of multiple socks, Dr. K. Don’t you think?

    Eric Blair (8d54e0)

  60. Joe is opposed to babysit the “stimulus” so he won’t get underfoot I think. Joe is the doofus Baracky picked to balance out his utter ignorance of things what happen in foreign countries. It’s so sad to see all of his expertise go untapped.

    happyfeet (4eacbc)

  61. “In 2003, trying to win support for tax cuts, the Bush Administration predicted that with the passage of the tax-cut measure, 5.5 million jobs would be created in the 18 months from June 2003 through December 2004.”

    Hax – Let’s see a cite fuckstick. Mine shows much differenct.

    “Three main goals: According to the White House, the tax cuts, credits and other features of the plan would stimulate the economy by accomplishing three main goals:

    Encourage consumer spending that will continue to boost the economic recovery.
    Promote investment by individuals and businesses that will lead to economic growth and job creation.
    Deliver critical help to unemployed citizens.
    “I worry about people who are out of work. They need our help, both in short-term benefits and long-term opportunity,” Bush said.

    The President’s Council of Economic Advisers has estimated that the plan will result in the creation of 2.1 million jobs over the next three years.”

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  62. “the demographic distribution of his tax cuts”

    Regale us with the lies here Max Vomitorium. Show your work.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  63. “How can “save or create 3.5 million jobs” possibly be construed as true or false?

    It’s a prediction.”

    Wait, isn’t a prediction sort of like an estimate? How can you lie about those? Oh, if you’re George Bush you can, but not if you’re Barack Obama. Got it.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  64. Daley,

    It is like going into your bosses office and saying you are going to “save” the company $50,000 per year by forgoing the pay increase you have not been given.

    Obama über alles!!!!! (da3d2f)

  65. daleyrocks – To Leftists, lie means things that they disagree with.

    JD (0e6191)

  66. JD + OuA – I’m just illustrating a fraction of the lies in one of the Haxtor’s comments.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  67. I’m starting to smell socks.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  68. Sent the following to the White House. No doubt I am tilting at windmills, but hey, someone has to do it.

    Dear Mr. President,

    In listening to your speech two nights ago, you said at one point, “For history tells a different story. History reminds us that at every moment of economic upheaval and transformation, this nation has responded with bold action and big ideas. In the midst of civil war, we laid railroad tracks from one coast to another that spurred commerce and industry.”

    I’m sorry, that’s just wrong. While the Lincoln signed the Pacific Railroad Act in 1862 and signed and amended version in 1864 the by December of 1865 the transcontinental railroad extended to just 40 miles west of Omaha. The “Golden Spike” was finally driven on May 10, 1869, four years after the end of the Civil War.

    If you are going to use history as a guide, you should get it correct. If you and your administration can’t even get it right on the small things, how can we trust you to use history to guide your efforts on issues that carry life and death implications.

    Joe Heater (2c1683)

  69. Serious recessions make many people think what their plan B is. In quite a lot of cases, there isn’t one.
    Some people, in times such as these, choose to just panic. Quite a bit of others simply try to deny reality. Many more decide to work harder and longer, hoping for the best. These behaviors often turn out to be similar to laying on a railroad track and hoping that the train won’t come…
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    There is a young company that in these very days goes upstream, against the economic tide. It continuously grows, despite the fact that the entire economy keeps shrinking, without the bottom being seen yet. This phenomenon takes place because this company offers a line of unique products that bring a brilliant, revolutionary innovation into a huge, well established industry. Its products solve a real need, and the market which it targets keeps expanding even at these troubled times.
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    Gideon (46ec56)

  70. This site has hit the skids. Where is the post about Junior Jindal’s train wreck? I wonder if he has already burned his chance at becoming president.

    My favorite part was his criticism of monitoring volcanic activity. As the governor of Louisiana he seems awfully ignorant of the value of a warning system for natural disasters.

    And hey, what about that delivery? I felt like I was in pre-school. Sorry about the delay between posts, I was out living my life. :-)

    Ed from PA (d99227)

  71. Ed from PA,

    1) If you hadn’t noticed, I’ve been a little busy.

    2) I write about what interests me, and if the rest of the world has it covered, I’m less likely to weigh in.

    3) That said, I take requests. I’ll write about any topic you like, within reason, for the low low price of $1000 per post.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  72. I think researching of volcanic activity in PA is a vital social need. That is, if they can discriminate between tectonic-plate movement, and flatulence from Ed?

    AD - RtR/OS (5e419c)

  73. Patterico, you have written long posts and short ones. What is the per word rate?

    Eric Blair (8d54e0)

  74. Patterico: Your posts are not interesting, that is why the world is not talking about their content.

    Ed from PA (c313be)

  75. Patterico: Your posts are not interesting. That’s why EFP never comments here…

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  76. Actually I haven’t for like 3 weeks, you dumb sht.

    Ed from PA (c313be)

  77. He was interesting enough for you to come back.

    Just sayin’

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  78. Ed from PA – We are waiting with bated breath to hear about you out living your life. We were unaware that you had one. Perhaps you could write a post about it for the Jury. I’m sure Patterico would love to feature it.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  79. Actually I haven’t for like 3 weeks, you dumb sht.

    That all? Maybe you could go for a few years…

    EW1(SG) (e27928)

  80. 2/28 to 3/02 is three weeks now.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  81. Time flies in a drug-induced fog.

    AD - RtR/OS (3120b9)

  82. 2/28-3/2 would seem like 3 weeks were any of you forced to get by on EfP’s grey matter.

    JD (2d2bfc)

  83. 2/28 to 3/02 is three weeks now.

    Comment by John Hitchcock — 3/2/2009 @ 4:09 pm

    Why don’t you do a little research regarding when my last post was before that, boy genius.

    Ed from PA (c313be)

  84. EfP, put them goal posts down. You’ll get a hernia.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

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