Comments on: L.A. Times Has Substantially Misleading Story on the Patriot Act and Unruly Airline Passengers

By: lost car keys

lost car keys — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:21:40 +0000

dont see anythign weird about it.

By: Obama über alles!!!!!

Obama über alles!!!!! — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:08:25 +0000

The Civil system is all screwed up. I had to pay 17K to make something go away when I was the party who should have won 30K.

Why?

Even if I spent the money to win, the douche bag and his douche bag lawyer had no money so where was I going to collect?

All scum lawyers involved of course. Sorry Coppermine.

By: coppermine

coppermine — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:45:34 +0000

I can attest to the fact that the courts sometimes get things wrong and innocent people are found guilty. Years ago I was coming out of a store carrying a 40# bag of dog food. Someone left a cart outside and I walked into it, sending it rolling toward the curb. A car was parked in the firelane and the cart hit it.I recovered my balance, glanced at cart and car and saw no harm done, put my bag in the cart and continued on my way. No big deal right? Cart rolled the width of the side walk and no damage apparent. No people in sight and no one stopped me as I walked to my car- almost at the end of the row. That evening a “Mr. Smith” calls my house and wants $500.00 for damages to his car- I of course refuse to pay. I never did figure out how he got my number. He declined to say.
Bottom line?? I get summoned to court and accused of willfully running MY cart into this guys car. He has witnesses, he is wearing a leg brace and using crutches. He SAW me VIOLENTLY shove this cart into his car. On purpose and with the intent to damage his vehicle. Witnesses agree even tho I do not remember seeing any of these people in the store (small pet food shop). Owner doesn’t remember them either but won’t come to court. All Ive got is a receipt for 40lbs of dog food and the above story. I told judge just as I have written- didn’t see cart, or leave it in front of the store, accidently knocked it foward, and certainly did not purposefully ram it into anyone’s car. Didn’t matter that the guy was illegally parked either. I lost and had to pay a 90 dollar fine for a misdeameaner conviction. Judge did not allow the plaintiff any damages however. The kicker- as I leave the courthouse after paying this fine for something I did not do who do you think I saw throwing his crutches into the back of a van (and the “witnesses” getting into said van) The Plaintiff!! Walking just fine and sprinting for the drivers door when I called out “Mr. Smith stop”!!
I never heard from him again although in court he did state he would sue me civilly.
My point is I did nothing except be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Hindsight leads me to think “Mr. Smith” saw a golden opportunity to get some quick cash and knew how the system works. Im sure a transcript of this case would look awful for me- but it was all lies. So I do not trust our legal system 100% and I know it can be manipulated to convict innocent people. Maybe not always but it does happen. I was 22 years old at the time but I can still remember how shocked I was that the truth did not prevail.

By: Icy Texan

Icy Texan — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:45:44 +0000

Comment by MayBee — 1/23/2009 @ 7:36 am
The LA Times is just reporting the story, not claiming it’s true.

– That’s right; there’s a BIG difference between facts and fairy-tale.

By: Stan Switek

Stan Switek — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 05:58:20 +0000

Hey Dawn,

My wife & I have flown the airlines about 5 times a year for the last 20 years but we have never been arrested or even had an unpleasant word with a flight crew. Be glad I wasn’t your flight. I would have taught your husband some manners. Your made up after the fact stories like the one you gave on John & Ken just don’t wash. Next time, rent a room.

By: Linus

Linus — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 04:33:08 +0000

The most amazing part of your post is that you didn't know about Popehat. Popehat rules! Although I'm kind of angry with Patrick for ruining my ability to get any work done.

By: The original AD (previously known as Another Drew)

The original AD (previously known as Another Drew) — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:22:07 +0000

And probably home addresses and contact info.

By: EW1(SG)

EW1(SG) — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:20:29 +0000

#18 nk:

but the witness list is already prepared for the defense attorney complete with seat assignments.

nk, I must confess that I have never thought of a passenger manifest quite that way, before.

By: Dmac

Dmac — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:29:30 +0000

Does that sound like a fair trial?

The question is moot – but you obviously skipped over the reality of acting abusive and potentially violent in an enclosed metal tube along with another 120+ unwilling people – flying is a privilege, not a right. Perhaps you understand that fact at this point in your life.

By: War and Pieces: why I can’t stand the left. « Chockblock’s blog

War and Pieces: why I can’t stand the left. « Chockblock’s blog — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:48:19 +0000

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