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		<title>By: Jim Treacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Treacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What is the point of this?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The appearance of doing something while doing nothing. I suppose you could call it Obamism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What is the point of this?</p></blockquote>
<p>The appearance of doing something while doing nothing. I suppose you could call it Obamism.</p>
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		<title>By: luagha</title>
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		<dc:creator>luagha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Obama had outlined an actual vision or policy, it could have been argued with.  It might have been shown to have both positives and negatives.

If you don&#039;t put one forwards, people can imagine all their positives and no negatives at all because people always think that their own ideas are perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama had outlined an actual vision or policy, it could have been argued with.  It might have been shown to have both positives and negatives.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t put one forwards, people can imagine all their positives and no negatives at all because people always think that their own ideas are perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example of the sale-by date concept on his words.
This is starting to look more and more like &quot;&lt;i&gt;The Candidate&lt;/i&gt;&quot; in that there is no concept of what to do after the win...&quot;Now what do we do?&quot;

Presidential candidates used to run, and enter office with, voluminous &quot;white papers&quot; laying out what the policies of a new administration would be, and how they would carry them out.

It appears that President Obama has stocked his Administration with a herd of independent operators, and he believes that all he has to do is to pick and choose among the various policy options that they present to him, without any overarching policy template that they must work within.

Of course, it is difficult to ascertain what the thrust of this Administration will be after just 24 hours, but it would have helped if he had published some kind of chart of where he wished to go other than what he put up, and constantly revised, on his website.

It would help if he could get his ducks in a row, or at least outline in some specificity, what that row is, so that the American People who entrusted him with this responsibility to lead the Government of the United States, and present its&#039; face to the World, could say to themselves &quot;Yes, that is where we want to go&quot; and support that effort; or conversely, say &quot;NO, that would be counter-productive&quot; and work in opposition within the political system.  But, if each morning, we awake to a new &quot;crisis&quot; and a new &quot;solution&quot; that makes the government swivel back-and-forth as a shooting-gallery duck, we will solve none of the problems that are of concern, and will most likely lengthen the distress that we are encountering.

&quot;There is not (or does not appear to be) any there, there&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example of the sale-by date concept on his words.<br />
This is starting to look more and more like &#8220;<i>The Candidate</i>&#8221; in that there is no concept of what to do after the win&#8230;&#8221;Now what do we do?&#8221;</p>
<p>Presidential candidates used to run, and enter office with, voluminous &#8220;white papers&#8221; laying out what the policies of a new administration would be, and how they would carry them out.</p>
<p>It appears that President Obama has stocked his Administration with a herd of independent operators, and he believes that all he has to do is to pick and choose among the various policy options that they present to him, without any overarching policy template that they must work within.</p>
<p>Of course, it is difficult to ascertain what the thrust of this Administration will be after just 24 hours, but it would have helped if he had published some kind of chart of where he wished to go other than what he put up, and constantly revised, on his website.</p>
<p>It would help if he could get his ducks in a row, or at least outline in some specificity, what that row is, so that the American People who entrusted him with this responsibility to lead the Government of the United States, and present its&#8217; face to the World, could say to themselves &#8220;Yes, that is where we want to go&#8221; and support that effort; or conversely, say &#8220;NO, that would be counter-productive&#8221; and work in opposition within the political system.  But, if each morning, we awake to a new &#8220;crisis&#8221; and a new &#8220;solution&#8221; that makes the government swivel back-and-forth as a shooting-gallery duck, we will solve none of the problems that are of concern, and will most likely lengthen the distress that we are encountering.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is not (or does not appear to be) any there, there&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corky - I think it is a little more political, and less thoughtful than that.  I believe that when reality sets in, some of those things that he has promised the nutroots, and some of the things that they believe they heard, will turn out to be bad decisions at best, or dangerous at worst, and he will abandon them.  By kicking the can down the road, he can simply avoid doing anything.  Doing nothing will be an improvement over his natural inclinations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corky &#8211; I think it is a little more political, and less thoughtful than that.  I believe that when reality sets in, some of those things that he has promised the nutroots, and some of the things that they believe they heard, will turn out to be bad decisions at best, or dangerous at worst, and he will abandon them.  By kicking the can down the road, he can simply avoid doing anything.  Doing nothing will be an improvement over his natural inclinations.</p>
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		<title>By: Corky Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corky Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will see more of this indeciveness.  Putting something up for study for four months when it was a major issue for Democrats for 5 years is simply buying time before the tough decisions need to be made.

Obama&#039;s major weakness is his fear of making an erroneous decision.  He has built himself up, as has the press, with an aura of infallibilty.  People who are afraid of making mistakes are risk averse.  They tend to be indecisive and delay making the tough decisions.

We saw this with Obama&#039;s campaign.  He procrastinated when Russia invaded Georgia, and eventually adopted McCain&#039;s position.  It took him a week to announce his strategy in the bank bailout.  

God forbid that N. Korea invades S. Korea.  It took Truman only hours to commit troops when that happened in June 1950.  How quickly would Obama react?  You judge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will see more of this indeciveness.  Putting something up for study for four months when it was a major issue for Democrats for 5 years is simply buying time before the tough decisions need to be made.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s major weakness is his fear of making an erroneous decision.  He has built himself up, as has the press, with an aura of infallibilty.  People who are afraid of making mistakes are risk averse.  They tend to be indecisive and delay making the tough decisions.</p>
<p>We saw this with Obama&#8217;s campaign.  He procrastinated when Russia invaded Georgia, and eventually adopted McCain&#8217;s position.  It took him a week to announce his strategy in the bank bailout.  </p>
<p>God forbid that N. Korea invades S. Korea.  It took Truman only hours to commit troops when that happened in June 1950.  How quickly would Obama react?  You judge.</p>
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		<title>By: Icy Texan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icy Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When things like this happen, I always like to bring up this scene from Monty Python&#039;s Life of Brian:

[The revolutionary group Brian runs with is having a meeting to determine future plans.] 

REG: 
Right. Now, uh, item four: attainment of world supremacy within the next five years. Uh, Francis, you&#039;ve been doing some work on this. 
FRANCIS: 
Yeah. Thank you, Reg. Well, quite frankly, siblings, I think five years is optimistic, unless we can smash the Roman empire within the next twelve months. 
REG: 
Twelve months? 
FRANCIS: 
Yeah, twelve months. And, let&#039;s face it. As empires go, this is the big one, so we&#039;ve got to get up off our arses and stop just talking about it! 
COMMANDOS: 
Hear! Hear! 
LORETTA: 
I agree. It&#039;s action that counts, not words, and we need action now. 
COMMANDOS: 
Hear! Hear! 
REG: 
You&#039;re right. We could sit around here all day talking, passing resolutions, making clever speeches. It&#039;s not going to shift one Roman soldier! 
FRANCIS: 
So, let&#039;s just stop gabbing on about it. It&#039;s completely pointless and it&#039;s getting us nowhere! 
COMMANDOS: 
Right! 
LORETTA: 
I agree. This is a complete waste of time. 
[Judith, Brian&#039;s girlfriend &amp; co-conspirator, bursts into the room] 
JUDITH: 
They&#039;ve arrested Brian! 
REG: 
What? 
COMMANDOS: 
What? 
JUDITH: 
They&#039;ve dragged him off! They&#039;re going to crucify him! 
REG: 
&lt;b&gt;Right! This calls for immediate discussion!&lt;/b&gt;  
COMMANDO #1: 
Yeah. 
JUDITH: 
What?! 
COMMANDO #2: 
Immediate. 
COMMANDO #1: 
Right. 
LORETTA: 
New motion? 
REG: 
Completely new motion, eh, that, ah-- that there be, ah, immediate action-- 
FRANCIS: 
Ah, once the vote has been taken. 
REG: 
Well, obviously once the vote&#039;s been taken. You can&#039;t act another resolution till you&#039;ve voted on it... 
JUDITH: 
Reg, for God&#039;s sake, let&#039;s go now! 
REG: 
Yeah. Yeah. 
JUDITH: 
Please! 
REG: 
Right. Right. 
FRANCIS: 
Fine. 
REG: 
In the-- in the light of fresh information from, ahh, sibling Judith-- 
LORETTA: 
Ah, not so fast, Reg. 
JUDITH: 
Reg, for God&#039;s sake, it&#039;s perfectly simple. All you&#039;ve got to do is to go out of that door now, and try to stop the Romans&#039; nailing him up! It&#039;s happening, Reg! Something&#039;s actually happening, Reg! Can&#039;t you understand?! Ohhh! 
[Judith storms out of the room in frustration]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When things like this happen, I always like to bring up this scene from Monty Python&#8217;s Life of Brian:</p>
<p>[The revolutionary group Brian runs with is having a meeting to determine future plans.] </p>
<p>REG:<br />
Right. Now, uh, item four: attainment of world supremacy within the next five years. Uh, Francis, you&#8217;ve been doing some work on this.<br />
FRANCIS:<br />
Yeah. Thank you, Reg. Well, quite frankly, siblings, I think five years is optimistic, unless we can smash the Roman empire within the next twelve months.<br />
REG:<br />
Twelve months?<br />
FRANCIS:<br />
Yeah, twelve months. And, let&#8217;s face it. As empires go, this is the big one, so we&#8217;ve got to get up off our arses and stop just talking about it!<br />
COMMANDOS:<br />
Hear! Hear!<br />
LORETTA:<br />
I agree. It&#8217;s action that counts, not words, and we need action now.<br />
COMMANDOS:<br />
Hear! Hear!<br />
REG:<br />
You&#8217;re right. We could sit around here all day talking, passing resolutions, making clever speeches. It&#8217;s not going to shift one Roman soldier!<br />
FRANCIS:<br />
So, let&#8217;s just stop gabbing on about it. It&#8217;s completely pointless and it&#8217;s getting us nowhere!<br />
COMMANDOS:<br />
Right!<br />
LORETTA:<br />
I agree. This is a complete waste of time.<br />
[Judith, Brian's girlfriend &amp; co-conspirator, bursts into the room]<br />
JUDITH:<br />
They&#8217;ve arrested Brian!<br />
REG:<br />
What?<br />
COMMANDOS:<br />
What?<br />
JUDITH:<br />
They&#8217;ve dragged him off! They&#8217;re going to crucify him!<br />
REG:<br />
<b>Right! This calls for immediate discussion!</b><br />
COMMANDO #1:<br />
Yeah.<br />
JUDITH:<br />
What?!<br />
COMMANDO #2:<br />
Immediate.<br />
COMMANDO #1:<br />
Right.<br />
LORETTA:<br />
New motion?<br />
REG:<br />
Completely new motion, eh, that, ah&#8211; that there be, ah, immediate action&#8211;<br />
FRANCIS:<br />
Ah, once the vote has been taken.<br />
REG:<br />
Well, obviously once the vote&#8217;s been taken. You can&#8217;t act another resolution till you&#8217;ve voted on it&#8230;<br />
JUDITH:<br />
Reg, for God&#8217;s sake, let&#8217;s go now!<br />
REG:<br />
Yeah. Yeah.<br />
JUDITH:<br />
Please!<br />
REG:<br />
Right. Right.<br />
FRANCIS:<br />
Fine.<br />
REG:<br />
In the&#8211; in the light of fresh information from, ahh, sibling Judith&#8211;<br />
LORETTA:<br />
Ah, not so fast, Reg.<br />
JUDITH:<br />
Reg, for God&#8217;s sake, it&#8217;s perfectly simple. All you&#8217;ve got to do is to go out of that door now, and try to stop the Romans&#8217; nailing him up! It&#8217;s happening, Reg! Something&#8217;s actually happening, Reg! Can&#8217;t you understand?! Ohhh!<br />
[Judith storms out of the room in frustration]</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Baracky has ascended to the throne, can France be our friend again?  Pretty please ?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Baracky has ascended to the throne, can France be our friend again?  Pretty please ?!</p>
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		<title>By: gp</title>
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		<dc:creator>gp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What is the point of this?&quot;  To make the rest of the world love the USA again, silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What is the point of this?&#8221;  To make the rest of the world love the USA again, silly.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He can release them all to those communities he organized/destroyed on the southside of Chicago.</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Hahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is politics. Obama is looking for a way to make political hay out of some action. All politics, all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is politics. Obama is looking for a way to make political hay out of some action. All politics, all the time.</p>
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