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1/6/2009

Showdown? Burris Ready to Take a Seat in the Senate

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:15 am



Roland Burris says it’s his seat:

“As I read the U.S. Constitution,” he said on CBS’s “The Early Show,” it says the “governor shall fill a vacancy, and as a former attorney general of my state, I have no knowledge of where a secretary of state has veto power over a governor carrying out his constitutional duties.”

Isn’t he right?

115 Responses to “Showdown? Burris Ready to Take a Seat in the Senate”

  1. Cue Michael Buffer – Let’s Get Ready To Rumble!

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  2. I hope to got this is televised, and that I am able to watch it from work…

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  3. So far, not much to see on TV

    carlitos (34f76e)

  4. No justice – no peace!

    Perfect Sense (9d1b08)

  5. Funny, Perfect! The bumper sticker slogans can be used for all kinds of occasions.

    Seriously off topic, but I just watched this with my sons:

    http://www.bspcn.com/2009/01/05/man-can-fly-if-you-watch-one-video-in-2009-be-it-this/

    A nice way to start the day: soaring with eagles before the turkeys get you down!

    Eric Blair (3e2520)

  6. The Secretary of the Senate has turned Burris away after a 20 minute meeting according to the AP.

    As I said yesterday, he ought to go sit in the Visitors Gallery and make his freaking presence known but not create enough of a disturbance to get ejected.

    Somebody call Marion Barry if he’s not in the slammer.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  7. The Illinois Secretary of State should also be impeached.

    Neo (cba5df)

  8. Thr Secretary of the Senate sent Senator Burris over to the “colored” Senate.

    Official Internet Data Office (81a27f)

  9. The Illinois Secretary of State should also be impeached.

    Mind if I ask why?

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  10. The Illinois Secretary of State (Jessie White) has more integrity than Burris, Blago and the Senate leadership combined. Which is one reason why he won’t be Senator. I believe that he’s retiring after this term.

    carlitos (34f76e)

  11. I would like someone to explain why Burris is being blocked, and how that does not set a terrible precedent.

    Do State Secretaries of State have veto authority over Senate picks? They are not expected to certify the motives behind the appointment, just the fact that a governor has made the appointment.

    The Illinois Secretary of State is usurping the power of the governor and abusing power.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  12. Is there any evidence at all that the Burris appointment in particular resulted from a bribe? If the Secretary of State doesn’t like a governor, can he stop the governor from exercising his constitutional prerogatives?

    Who was elected Governor of Illinois?

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  13. “The Illinois Secretary of State is usurping the power of the governor and abusing power.”

    Blago has not been indicted or impeached or stripped of any powers by the legislature. What legitimate grounds does Jesse White have to not merely process the appointment like any other ministerial duty he performs?

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  14. I know, Jesse lost the official appointment notice. City Hall is a big place.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  15. He might lose a replacement official appointment notice too. Strange things happen in Chicago. It’ll probably turn up in a couple of months.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  16. I know, Jesse lost the official appointment notice. City Hall is a big place.

    “Sorry guys. I just can’t find the Seal… Come back later…”

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  17. In church on Sunday, Roland Burris said something to the effect that he was the most qualified man in the world to represent the ’13 million negros in Illinois.’ Yikes.

    daleyrocks, I know that White has no right not to certify the appointment. I also know that Blago had no right to sit in his Northwest Side home for 4 years and collect a check as governor.

    The State of Illinois building is a big place. I’m sure that Mr. White is there, and Blago could find him if he looked.

    carlitos (34f76e)

  18. The Illinois Secretary of State is certainly going beyond his authority when he denies the seal to a commission signed by the Governor, and a court should tell him so.

    There’s no legal justification for his acts, but there are probably certain political justifications.

    aphrael (9e8ccd)

  19. daleyrocks, I know that White has no right not to certify the appointment.

    Retiring or not, refusing to certify the appointment could get Jesse a write-in for Governor…

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  20. If the Secretary of State doesn’t like a governor, can he stop the governor from exercising his constitutional prerogatives?

    Then Burris needs to go to court and get a writ of mandamus, rather than screwing around in D.C. There’s a procedure for doing these things, and having Bobby Rush on your speed dial isn’t part of it.

    M. Scott Eiland (5ccff0)

  21. 1957 – Democrat Orval Faubus blocks nine Black Americans from attending an all white High School.

    1963 – Democrat George Wallace attempts to block two Black Americans from the all white University of Alabama.

    2008 – Democrat Harry Reid blocks a Black American from the all white Senate.

    Its Selma all over again!

    Perfect Sense (9d1b08)

  22. Burris said that he didn’t want to create a scene. Then, he had press conferences at his flight departure and landing. Then he arrived with about 50 people on the steps of the Senate.

    carlitos (34f76e)

  23. Technically, eeeeevil Republican Terry Gainer blocked Roland Burris. He’s the Sargeant at Arms of the Senate. Acting on Reid’s authority of course.

    carlitos (34f76e)

  24. Sergeant

    carlitos (34f76e)

  25. Caligula at least sent his whole horse to the Senate, Minnesota just sent the back half.

    Oh wait, this is Blago and Burris. Well withdraw Burris and appoint…Oprah Winfrey. That will mix things up. Better yet, go with Bill Ayers. He is a guy from Obama’s neighborhood. Or maybe Reverend Wright wants to go to Washington (I think Wright would rather go to Hollywood myself).

    Joe (dcebbd)

  26. In church on Sunday, Roland Burris said something to the effect that he was the most qualified man in the world to represent the ‘13 million negros in Illinois.’ Yikes.

    http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/17000.html

    Illinois’s population is about 12.8 million. I guess, according to Burris, we are all Negroes now.

    Steverino (69d941)

  27. Illinois’s population is about 12.8 million. I guess, according to Burris, we are all Negroes now

    Nah… he’s just using ACRON math…

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  28. carlitos wrote:

    I also know that Blago had no right to sit in his Northwest Side home for 4 years and collect a check as governor.

    Actually, unless the legislature impeaches and removes him, he absolutely does have that right. Why would you think that he wouldn’t?

    The inquisitive Dana (3e4784)

  29. “Nah… he’s just using ACRON math…”

    And those are just the newly registered voters.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  30. carlitos:

    I also know that Blago had no right to sit in his Northwest Side home for 4 years and collect a check as governor.

    He was elected. He is the guy the people of the great state of Illinois wanted. He had every right that was freely given to him.

    Embarrassment is not justification for more abuse of power.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  31. He is right.

    love2008 who is tenured. (1b037c)

  32. Hasn’t Blago been charged with attempting to sell the Senate seat, among other things? Hasn’t a commission been set up to determine whether Blago needs impeached for attempting to sell the Senate seat, among other things? And all this before he tried to give the Senate seat to someone? Doesn’t this cast a shadow of corruption on that Senate seat?

    I would refuse to certify under those circumstances myself. I would also expect to have my inaction challenged in court, and I would appeal my losses in the courts until I had no appeals left.

    The Liberals use these actions for propaganda use and to whip up the uninformed. Conservatives (and I know SoSIL is no conservative) should use these foot-dragging actions when truth is on their side.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  33. John –

    Is talking about selling a Senate seat a crime? Is there any evidence of money paid for this appointment?

    Does any shadow of corruption void a governor’s constitutional prerogatives? Do we really want to go there, considering how easy it is to indict anyone for anything? Is Blago guilty until proven innocent – and this merely because of embarrassment over the seriousness of the charge? Did the election mean nothing?

    On what basis would you refuse to certify – Blago is the Governor, he made the appointment. requiring anything more would be an abuse of power. The Secretary of State is not authorized to block appointments, only to verify that they have been made.

    Blago was NOT caught taking a bribe. But the Secretary of State did grossly and deliberately exceed his authority.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  34. Is talking about selling a Senate seat a crime?

    Lawyers may correct me, but I believe the phrase you are looking for is “Conspiracy to”…

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  35. This casts a shadow of corruption on the Illinois Democratic Party, a shadow that could also fall on Obama. It also casts a shadow on the wisdom of the Illinois Electorate.

    The shadow on Obama’s Senate seat should focus attention on those other, far more significant shadows.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  36. Amphipolis, are you suggesting what’s good for the goose is not good for the gander? Are you suggesting we have multiple standards of behavior? When someone of a certain bent does something, it is alright to use certain tactics to stop it but when someone of a different bent does the same thing, those tactics are off the table?

    Just looking for clarity.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  37. “Embarrassment is not justification for more abuse of power.”

    Amphipolis – Hairy Reed and Nancy Pelosi do not seem embarrassed at all to abuse their powers. What is their justification?

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  38. Blago will have his day in court. I hope he is nailed to the wall, although I think the trap was blown before it bit.

    But until then he is the elected governor. Let the buyer beware.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  39. Is talking about selling a Senate seat a crime?

    Lawyers may correct me, but I believe the phrase you are looking for is “Conspiracy to”…

    It could also be “Attempted …”

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  40. carlitos: I believe when Burris said he didn’t want to make a scene, he meant something like he wasn’t going to get into a Cynthia McKinney-style fistfight with anyone to get admitted to the Senate floor. Calling press conferences and so forth would not be considered as “making a scene” by Senate standards.

    Joshua (9ede0e)

  41. Easy – their abuse of power is not potentially tied to Obama, and it has not escaped from media cover. So they can do what they want.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  42. I don’t see why they have any right to deny him his seat – when the big prosecutor asks for a two month delay “in order to gather more evidence,” you know that his case may wind up being actually quite weak. No doubt he’s hoping to pressure others to step up and help his cause, but until we hear the plea deal with Rezko announced, I wouldn’t bet the farm on that happening.

    Dmac (eb0dd0)

  43. Amphipolis, are you suggesting what’s good for the goose is not good for the gander? Are you suggesting we have multiple standards of behavior? When someone of a certain bent does something, it is alright to use certain tactics to stop it but when someone of a different bent does the same thing, those tactics are off the table?

    John, I think we’re talking about just one standard of behavior: Follow. The. Law.

    Pablo (99243e)

  44. Speaking as someone who lives in Illinois, we don’t want anyone who has been appointed by our corrupt governor to sit in the Senate. No doubt, the Secretary of STate can’t refuse to certify Burris, but the correct procedure is to go to court and get an order, directing the SOS to certify. The correct procedure, legal or political, is not to conduct yourself as ringmaster of the circus, calling everyone who opposes you racist, and using Bobby Rush as your chief spokesperson.

    rochf (ae9c58)

  45. Thanks Pablo, somehow I missed John’s comment.

    It’s not alright to do what they did. But even if they get away with it, that does not justify our doing the same. Yeah, standards are a bitch.

    Why should we fix their mess? Let him appoint a guy with a cloud over his head that is shaped like the words THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  46. No doubt, the Secretary of STate can’t refuse to certify Burris, but the correct procedure is to go to court and get an order, directing the SOS to certify.

    The Mandamus action has been filed. No word on when the IL SC will act on it.

    Pablo (99243e)

  47. Blago’s possible defense:

    Conspiracy? You have got to be kidding. It was all a big joke! Come on – do you seriously think anyone would try to sell a Senate seat? Don’t you have a sense of humor?

    Would I have been so open about it if I was serious? That just doesn’t make sense.

    Did I take any money? DID I? It is YOU who are libeling ME.

    Thank you, Chicago Tribune, for saving Obama Blago.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  48. I definitely feel very out of place in this particular debate. Many years ago, I took a HS speech class during which we formed debate teams to debate Roe v. Wade. I absolutely refused to be Pro-Choice in the debate. I would’ve taken a zero for the 3-week exercise if necessary. This is why I never wanted to be on a debate team. This is also why I never seriously considered being an attorney. I cannot fight for that which I deem dead wrong.

    Yet here I am, a moral absolutist who is in effect fighting for moral relativism.

    I see at least two standards. I say “at least two” because one of the two standards slides while the other does not.

    Follow all legal requirements. Or if you’re a liberal fighting a conservative, might makes right.

    Do your sworn duty. Or if a conservative is your boss, do what you want.

    Never lie. Or if you’re a liberal, the ends justifies the means.

    I am still all for every measure of foot-dragging that can be taken in this case. Don’t get me wrong. I’d drag my feet and force all the jurisdictional actions to be taken before doing the required. I’d still do my duty “at the end of the day” but I would prolong it as long as possible in the hopes of truth winning out.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  49. Actually, unless the legislature impeaches and removes him, he absolutely does have that right. Why would you think that he wouldn’t?

    Comment by The inquisitive Dana — 1/6/2009 @ 9:14 am

    No moral right. Of course he has the legal right. Morally, though, he should go to Springfield or to his office in the State of Illinois building once in a while, maybe do some governing.

    carlitos (34f76e)

  50. In post 47 Obama was supposed to have strike through.

    I think that Reid is getting what he wants, a new precedent to unilaterally deny appointed Senate seats. Who chooses senators? Not the voters, and not the governor. The party chooses senators.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  51. Morally, he should have resigned long ago – if the Secretary of State would have let him. But I suppose if morality was an issue with him then this thread would never have had to exist in the first place.

    It’s too late for that. They learned their lesson decades ago – it’s the economy, stupid. Character doesn’t matter.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  52. I think that Reid is getting what he wants, a new precedent to unilaterally deny appointed Senate seats.

    The only thing he’s hanging his hat on now is the lack of proper certification. I suspect he’s going to cave once White is ordered to certify Burris.

    Pablo (99243e)

  53. Morally, the IL legislature ought to have tossed the question to the voters. Even Blago supported that and said he’d sign the bill if it came to them.

    Also, morally, Blago should take a long walk off a short pier.

    Pablo (99243e)

  54. #50

    Reid will, if legal integrity holds, fail in his power-grabbing that even conservatives approve in essence. Again, I am acting outside my own standards when I say I support Reid’s actions. But I do not support the precedent Reid would set if his actions actually held up in court — provided, of course, he refuses to seat someone certified for the position.

    While I am giddy with delight at the soap opera coming out of the DNC, I do not desire the slippery slope such a precedent would make if actually upheld in court. I guarantee such a precedent would only be detrimental to conservatives and those seeking integrity and honesty.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  55. Inquisitive Dana, I think I failed to make my point clear given the current situation. I was referring to the past several years during which Blago has sat in his home. He has tended not to do much work, or even go to his offices.

    carlitos (34f76e)

  56. He has a pretty wife. I don’t blame him for wanting to stay home. 😉

    nk (d08690)

  57. A very pretty lady with a mouth like a trucker. From the recordings…

    During the call, ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s wife can be heard in the background telling ROD BLAGOJEVICH to tell Deputy Governor A “to hold up that fucking Cubs shit. . . fuck them.”

    carlitos (34f76e)

  58. As far as I can tell, Burris was selected legally by the competent authority – the Gov. He’s not attached to the prior scandal except through the Gov. So why is he being tarred with that brush?

    Sounds to me like both the secretaries have overstepped their authority.

    mojo (8096f2)

  59. The Senate has the right to say “the governor is a crook and everything he does looks crooked to us.”

    Art I, Sect 5: “Returns”

    All they need is a rational basis for distrusting the governor’s actions.

    Kevin Murphy (805c5b)

  60. No moral right. Of course he has the legal right. Morally, though, he should go to Springfield or to his office in the State of Illinois building once in a while, maybe do some governing.
    Comment by carlitos — 1/6/2009 @ 10:39 am

    Lawyers, and the legal system, long ago removed morality from the public square, and the court-house.
    This is the world they have worked to give us, in contrast to the one that the founders bequeathed us.

    AD (4f3c82)

  61. Carlitos #57,

    Foreplay? 😉

    Will the rest of the FBI’s recording reveal Blagojevich saying “I rather ….” 😉

    nk (d08690)

  62. No doubt, the Secretary of STate can’t refuse to certify Burris, but the correct procedure is to go to court and get an order, directing the SOS to certify.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  63. I think Burris is a legal appointment, the fact that he is an idiot notwithstanding. One benefit of all these scandals is the fact that government, especially Democrat government, will be discredited. I think they are mostly incompetent anyway and, given the attention span of the electorate, this is a nice object lesson. The President is a more important office but a I fear we may get a lesson there, as well. Something about experience and empty promises.

    MIke K (531ff4)

  64. #63

    “My Peanut” is only a laughingstock in the conservative community. He is held in high regard in the liberal community. Stagflation, long lines at the pump, Iran do not compute.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  65. Comment by MIke K — 1/6/2009 @ 11:48 am

    If the admission to the House or Senate included a requirement to not be an “Idiot”, they would have difficulty finding a quorum.

    As has been said, endlessly, we get the government we deserve.

    AD (4f3c82)


  66. As has been said, endlessly, we get the government we deserve.

    Well, that’s a sad thing to contemplate. All the selfishness and ‘now now now’ and ‘it’s not your fault’ has been fed right into our heads from gradeschool on. The result is Senator Franken and President Hope and Change in General.

    Meanwhile the kids in China are learning to work hard and play the piano. I don’t even know if we ought to be on top.

    Joco (4cdfb7)

  67. Comment by Joco — 1/6/2009 @ 12:13 pm

    It is di rigour that a committed, hetero feminist WILL be on top.

    AD (4f3c82)

  68. We’re not on top. The education level of our high school students has been slipping further down the international scale as the years have gone bye. The liberals in their ivory towers have definitely succeeded in this.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  69. Upsetting as all this is (and it is upsetting), it isn’t new.

    Remember the old Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoon?

    Boris Badunov had a nefarious plot in one episode. He had a chemical agent, “goofgas,” that when inhaled made people act foolish. He was going to release it in Washington DC.

    Wild hijinks ensued. Rocky and Bullwinkle could not stop Boris Nogudnik and his ladyfriend, Natasha Fatale.

    He was readying to release the goofgas in Congress, while it was in session. And stopped.

    “Boris,” Natasha said. “Aren’t you going to release the goofgas?”

    “Too late,” Boris replied. “Someone else already did it.”

    To be serious again, ALL of this needs to be in the public eye. Folks need to see that this is business as usual. And then folks can consider what to do about it.

    If anything.

    Eric Blair (3e2520)

  70. Comment by Eric Blair — 1/6/2009 @ 12:32 pm

    It does indeed need to be played out in public but isn’t it assuming a lot that the public cares or even wants to exert the energy to do anything about it?

    By the time Jan 20th rolls around, the public is going to be utterly exhausted from these games and won’t bat an eye if anything else pops up when our new president takes office. In the end, this might all be to Obama’s advantage… in a skewed sort of way…

    Dana (137151)

  71. Comment by Eric Blair — 1/6/2009 @ 12:32 pm

    With such prescient thought, Boris will never get an OpEd in the NYT (unlike Bill Ayers);
    Natasha, OTOH, will always make the front page of the NYPost.

    AD (4f3c82)

  72. Dana, you are probably right, but I want to think positively.

    AD, I always wondered why my father would watch that cartoon with me so avidly. Now we know. Hot is hot, even two dimensionally.

    Eric Blair (3e2520)

  73. Lawerence Tribe, Akhil Amar, and Josh Chafetz argue that the Senate can refuse, Eugene Volokh and Brian Kalt argue they can’t.

    Me, I’m having popcorn.

    LarryD (feb78b)

  74. In the late 1950s or 1960s, when that Boris-and-Natasha plot was hatched, the Congress that was already showing signs of goofgas exposure was, of course, a Democratic Congress.

    Official Internet Data Office (81a27f)

  75. It’s too bad Obama can’t control his own party. So much for the unity bullshit.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  76. Comment by Official Internet Data Office — 1/6/2009 @ 12:55 pm

    It’s an easy shot, but I’ll take it anyway….
    Nancy Pelosi will never be considered the equal of Sam Rayburn,
    though her efforts to trample on the rights of the minority put her in that company.

    AD (4f3c82)

  77. Tell the President- defect he’s got some serious work after January 20th. Rolling Stone, Access Hollywood, Diane Sawyer and Newsweek all want quality face-time. Leave this political crap and decision making to someone else. Like Bill Ayers.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  78. Nancy Pelosi will never be considered the equal of Sam Rayburn

    Hell, she’ll never be the equal of Gene Rayburn.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  79. Comment by Vermont Neighbor — 1/6/2009 @ 1:44 pm
    So True!

    AD (4f3c82)

  80. Obama is God ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
    ! ! 1 1 !

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  81. Lawerence Tribe, Akhil Amar, and Josh Chafetz argue that the Senate can refuse, Eugene Volokh and Brian Kalt argue they can’t.

    Me, I’m having popcorn.

    Comment by LarryD

    Add [object] to the group that says the Senate can’t refuse to seat him.

    I’ve read the Powell decision, it seems very clear that the Senate has no power to refuse to seat him in these circumstances.

    CStudent (635e0b)

  82. Nancy Pelosi will never be considered the equal of Sam Rayburn

    She’s not even up to (or down to, in this case) the level of Jim Wright, whom I particularly loathed. But he was effective, and knew how to keep the idiots among his party in line.

    Dmac (eb0dd0)

  83. …or Tip O’Neill, another loathsome, albeit effective leader for his party.

    Dmac (eb0dd0)

  84. Comment by Vermont Neighbor — 1/6/2009 @ 1:51 pm

    EIther that is quite the clever sarcastic comment, or someone is parroting VN.

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  85. It’s me, Scott. Happy New Year. I can’t wait to party on the 20th, eleventy. I do love how Rod-B is just flinging it at Obama. I bet he and Patti will never-ever-ever get to go to Oprah’s again. Evah. That friendship is so over.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  86. Also, Governor Rod should be appointed The King of All Media Empires. He’ll guarantee we get the real background on Barrack Insane Obama. None of this kissy-kiss black magic love potion #9 stuff.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  87. “It’s too bad Obama can’t control his own party. So much for the unity bullshit.”

    I’m happy presidents don’t control their parties.

    “Its Selma all over again!”

    And the republicans wonder why they can’t reach out to minorities.

    imdw (8bb588)

  88. I wonder if someone of Mexican, Irish, American Indian descent qualifies as a minority. If so, I qualify.

    Rip van John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  89. I really should quit doing Dana-isms, it gets me in trouble since I am not skilled at it.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  90. I’m happy presidents don’t control their parties.

    And any criticism of Teh One is automatically done by a republican. Likely you star fckers are too dazed to look at the filth that this guy wallows in, let alone take time to analyze it. “The company you keep.” Surely your mom taught you that one.

    Were he a combo platter of hope and change, his party wouldn’t be falling apart and fighting for a) survival and b) damage control. George Soros needs to whack these people upside and real soon.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  91. And the republicans wonder why they can’t reach out to minorities.

    You keep people all in-line with that racism tag. A lot of good it did John McCain. And George Bush. Africa has no better friend than Bush.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  92. See how Blago has turned the media and everyone’s attention from himself to Burris and the Dems. Now there’s less talk about the charges against him. Somehow, however this Blago issue turns out will become a referendum on him. If Burris wins and he is seated, every allegation against him loses merit and he wins. So he is fighting for his political life in a proxy war between Burris and the senate. And it looks like Burris will win and if that happens, the scandal gets swept under the carpet and Blago keeps his seat. Shhmart devil, you…

    love2008 who is tenured. (1b037c)

  93. And the republicans wonder why they can’t reach out to minorities.

    Nice try, threadjacker. Try to stay on topic, I know that’s quite difficult for you.

    Dmac (eb0dd0)

  94. Me, I believe I’ll have another drink.

    mojo (975965)

  95. “And the republicans wonder why they can’t reach out to minorities.”

    imdw – They can, but they’re just not willing to lie their asses off to minorities like the leaders of the Democratic Party. That makes comparison shopping tougher.

    daleyrocks (5d22c0)

  96. The Democrat Party has draped itself with so much sleaze and slime — with so much low-class, no-class standards — over the past several years, from the antics of, among others, Bill and Hillary to Al (Sharpton) and Michael (Moore) — not to mention such noble figures like Jim-ah (ie Jimmy) Carter — that I actually will be surprised and pleased if they show a bit of integrity in dealing with the matter of Blago and Burris.

    Mark (411533)

  97. loves Obama for his big black . . . ears wrote: “it looks like Burris will win and if that happens, the scandal gets swept under the carpet and Blago keeps his seat.”

    — The end justifies (and erases) the means, does it? If he wins, the significant effort — by HARRY REID (you remember him, the Senate majority leader?) among others — to not seat him just gets forgotten? And the imminent federal charges against Blago (rhymes with — well, you know) go away?

    Icy Texan (b7d162)

  98. Their token resistance is over.

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  99. Governor Rod should write a book on the real President-defect. I’m afraid that Obama’s shell games will continue. Distract, explode, ignore. Repeat.

    Filth.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  100. Mr Hitchcock wrote:

    I really should quit doing Dana-isms, it gets me in trouble since I am not skilled at it

    .

    Don’t worry, neither am I.

    One of the Danas (3e4784)

  101. Comment by Vermont Neighbor — 1/7/2009 @ 8:49 am
    You still haven’t gotten over your bitterness have you? That is a dying breed. Everyone else seems more optimistic. You must know that if Obama fails, we all lose. So pray for your next President and yes, wish him your very best. I know you can do it. 🙂

    love2008 who just got a new name. (1b037c)

  102. Comment by Icy Texan — 1/6/2009 @ 11:34 pm
    Which is it for you, Icy; “Icy Truth” or “Icy Texan”?

    love2008 who just got a new name. (1b037c)

  103. Comment by love2008 who just got a new name

    But who isn’t telling us what it is yet?

    Dana2009 (3e4784)

  104. love2008 = happy idiot. Shocka.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  105. It’s “onejuggys’searsareanobamaphile’simaginarylovehandles2009”.

    nk (ce2a15)

  106. By all means, don’t read the truthful posts if they hurt so much. You voted by race, not by experience or ability. Your opinion is weighted.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  107. 101 –

    You must know that if Obama fails, we all lose.

    And this was also your sentiment eight years ago?

    Amphipolis (fdbc48)

  108. The next 4 years:

    Obama’s shell games will continue. Distract, explode, ignore. Repeat.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  109. I have to speak in defense of loving here. I wholly respect his or her sentiment. If Obama mucks things up terribly, it will be at the cost of the fortunes and lives of every single person living in the US.

    John Hitchcock (fb941d)

  110. If Obama mucks things up terribly

    #109, I agree with your sentiments.

    Problem is, anyone yelling for the media to do its job is considered ‘negative.’ Or racist. Playing the race card is how Obama vaulted through the system. Electing a corrupt politician is no advancement for any group. MLK never wanted anyone to game the system. He preached equality, responsibility, self-worth. The programs being hinted at ahead are simply designed to weaken people and empower Dems. Frankly, it’s why the phrase spread the wealth probably earned Obama more votes, not less.

    I blame Soros for that, his bundlers, and the ruthlessly narcissistic Obama.

    Okay, freelove. You can open your eyes now. Back to regular programming.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)

  111. If Obama mucks things up terribly

    If? If?! If?!?!?!

    The only question is when, and to what degree.

    JD (457b76)

  112. When….Jan 20, 2009!
    How much….
    Well, that’s pretty much up to Barney, and Chris, and Nancy, and Harry.

    We’re DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMED!

    AD (64c542)

  113. And this was also your sentiment eight years ago?

    Comment by Amphipolis — 1/7/2009 @ 10:01 am
    Exactly. I voted for Bush. Twice.

    love2008 who just got a new name. (0c8c2c)

  114. Comment by love2008 who just got a new name

    But who isn’t telling us what it is yet?

    Comment by Dana2009 — 1/7/2009 @ 9:44 am
    LOL. You are a gift to this blog. Okay, maybe I will say it to you. It’s a secret. (pssst pssst….pssst…) Don’t tell anyone. 😉

    love2008 who just got a new name. (0c8c2c)

  115. Exactly. I voted for Bush. Twice.

    And some people voted for Obama 7 times.

    Vermont Neighbor (058354)


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