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	<title>Comments on: Wednesday&#8217;s Auto Bailout Update</title>
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		<title>By: Brad S</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/12/10/wednedays-auto-bailout-update/comment-page-1/#comment-433454</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He gave up, Patricia.&quot;

Considering how deftly folks like you threw him under the bus this election cycle, why is he in any way obligated to &quot;stand firm?&quot; 

&quot;If we’re going to have bailouts such as this, I’d rather it be done by a Democrats; it hurts somewhat less when it’s not your own side pushing this garbage through.&quot;

Sure hope I&#039;m never in a position to bail out your workplace. Great job of showing a lack of empathy that Righties and Losertarians are famous for not showing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He gave up, Patricia.&#8221;</p>
<p>Considering how deftly folks like you threw him under the bus this election cycle, why is he in any way obligated to &#8220;stand firm?&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;If we’re going to have bailouts such as this, I’d rather it be done by a Democrats; it hurts somewhat less when it’s not your own side pushing this garbage through.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure hope I&#8217;m never in a position to bail out your workplace. Great job of showing a lack of empathy that Righties and Losertarians are famous for not showing.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Drew</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/12/10/wednedays-auto-bailout-update/comment-page-1/#comment-433453</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Comment by Brad S — 12/11/2008 @ 9:01 am&lt;/i&gt; 

I don&#039;t think we get to vote on this, something about meeting the requirements for membership in the Senate, or some such triviality.

We do get to express our opinion though, and I&#039;m quite confident that many here have passed those opinions on to their elected representatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Comment by Brad S — 12/11/2008 @ 9:01 am</i> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we get to vote on this, something about meeting the requirements for membership in the Senate, or some such triviality.</p>
<p>We do get to express our opinion though, and I&#8217;m quite confident that many here have passed those opinions on to their elected representatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad S</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/12/10/wednedays-auto-bailout-update/comment-page-1/#comment-433448</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mr K, it shows what happened when Bush refused to fight back. The constant abuse eventually beat him down. Now, he’s unable to mount an effective response to the “Progressive” agenda.

Ok, Ropelight and Steve Sturm, I now get to ask what YOU, PERSONALLY, will do to help your GOP senator out when he gets the crapstorm in response to your much-desired filibuster of the auto bailout bill? Will you back him up and stick with him? 

Or will you what DRJ famously suggests: “Anyway, Brad S., I’m covered. I have one family member who adamantly opposes the bailout, one in favor, and one on the fence. Someone at my house will be happy no matter what happens.”

Everyone knows what you will do next, folks. So stop asking GOP elected officials to do the political dirty work you won&#039;t do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mr K, it shows what happened when Bush refused to fight back. The constant abuse eventually beat him down. Now, he’s unable to mount an effective response to the “Progressive” agenda.</p>
<p>Ok, Ropelight and Steve Sturm, I now get to ask what YOU, PERSONALLY, will do to help your GOP senator out when he gets the crapstorm in response to your much-desired filibuster of the auto bailout bill? Will you back him up and stick with him? </p>
<p>Or will you what DRJ famously suggests: “Anyway, Brad S., I’m covered. I have one family member who adamantly opposes the bailout, one in favor, and one on the fence. Someone at my house will be happy no matter what happens.”</p>
<p>Everyone knows what you will do next, folks. So stop asking GOP elected officials to do the political dirty work you won&#8217;t do.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/12/10/wednedays-auto-bailout-update/comment-page-1/#comment-433383</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every day that goes by fills me with more and more rage. At this point, I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing everyone in Congress just dropped off on the island from Lost and forgotten about forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every day that goes by fills me with more and more rage. At this point, I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing everyone in Congress just dropped off on the island from Lost and forgotten about forever.</p>
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		<title>By: exdeadhead</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/12/10/wednedays-auto-bailout-update/comment-page-1/#comment-433293</link>
		<dc:creator>exdeadhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush would personally lobby (Senate) Republicans &lt;/blockquote&gt;

What is it that he wants to say to them that he does not say to us?  If the case is persuasive, then it should sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bush would personally lobby (Senate) Republicans </p></blockquote>
<p>What is it that he wants to say to them that he does not say to us?  If the case is persuasive, then it should sell.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/12/10/wednedays-auto-bailout-update/comment-page-1/#comment-433283</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He gave up, Patricia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He gave up, Patricia.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush just keeps signing bills.  Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush just keeps signing bills.  Why?</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/12/10/wednedays-auto-bailout-update/comment-page-1/#comment-433264</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush should have made Baracky do this. As is, Baracky will just appoint a new &quot;czar&quot; who will just throw more money at the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush should have made Baracky do this. As is, Baracky will just appoint a new &#8220;czar&#8221; who will just throw more money at the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can count this 15 B as a direct payment to the UAW!  It will go there and that is that!  

GM sales in 2007: 9,370,000 vehicles
Toyota sales in 2007: 9,366,418 vehicles

GM profit/loss in 2007: -$38,730,000,000 (-$4,055 per car)
Toyota profit in 2007: +$17,146,000,000 (+$1,874 per car)

That should pretty much sum it up for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can count this 15 B as a direct payment to the UAW!  It will go there and that is that!  </p>
<p>GM sales in 2007: 9,370,000 vehicles<br />
Toyota sales in 2007: 9,366,418 vehicles</p>
<p>GM profit/loss in 2007: -$38,730,000,000 (-$4,055 per car)<br />
Toyota profit in 2007: +$17,146,000,000 (+$1,874 per car)</p>
<p>That should pretty much sum it up for you.</p>
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		<title>By: steve sturm</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve sturm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ropelight: Bush had no problem fighting back when it came to keeping troops in Iraq, it&#039;s only on domestic issues that he hasn&#039;t fought back, so I attribute it less to his being beaten down and more to either (1) an underlying sympathy for the progressive agenda (evidenced by his pushing through the Medicare expansion, NCLB, the open checkbook in the aftermath of Katrina, not vetoing spending bills), (2) being in over his head, unable to understand what is going on and thus unable to formulate a response, or (3) he just doesn&#039;t care.

Either way, it&#039;s just one more reason to count down the number of days until he gets his sorry a** out of the White House.  If we&#039;re going to have bailouts such as this, I&#039;d rather it be done by a Democrats; it hurts somewhat less when it&#039;s not your own side pushing this garbage through.

Who in their right mind thinks Detroit will take the steps necessary to become profitable before they blow through the bailout money?  Who doesn&#039;t think that Detroit, knowing that the government blinked, will sit relatively pat, waiting for the next... and the next.... and the next handout?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ropelight: Bush had no problem fighting back when it came to keeping troops in Iraq, it&#8217;s only on domestic issues that he hasn&#8217;t fought back, so I attribute it less to his being beaten down and more to either (1) an underlying sympathy for the progressive agenda (evidenced by his pushing through the Medicare expansion, NCLB, the open checkbook in the aftermath of Katrina, not vetoing spending bills), (2) being in over his head, unable to understand what is going on and thus unable to formulate a response, or (3) he just doesn&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>Either way, it&#8217;s just one more reason to count down the number of days until he gets his sorry a** out of the White House.  If we&#8217;re going to have bailouts such as this, I&#8217;d rather it be done by a Democrats; it hurts somewhat less when it&#8217;s not your own side pushing this garbage through.</p>
<p>Who in their right mind thinks Detroit will take the steps necessary to become profitable before they blow through the bailout money?  Who doesn&#8217;t think that Detroit, knowing that the government blinked, will sit relatively pat, waiting for the next&#8230; and the next&#8230;. and the next handout?</p>
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