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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/11/17/obamas-policy-evolution-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-426420</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re going to continue to see the evolution of Obama&#039;s leftist illuminati campaign promises because most of us knew he was full of pie-in-the-sky dreams in the first place. He&#039;s going to edit the heck out of his campaign platform before too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re going to continue to see the evolution of Obama&#8217;s leftist illuminati campaign promises because most of us knew he was full of pie-in-the-sky dreams in the first place. He&#8217;s going to edit the heck out of his campaign platform before too long.</p>
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		<title>By: Icy Truth</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/11/17/obamas-policy-evolution-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-426206</link>
		<dc:creator>Icy Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as someone can rein in never-met-an-investigation-he-wouldn&#039;t-launch-in-order-to-waste-the-public&#039;s-money Waxman, this issue will quietly disappear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as someone can rein in never-met-an-investigation-he-wouldn&#8217;t-launch-in-order-to-waste-the-public&#8217;s-money Waxman, this issue will quietly disappear.</p>
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		<title>By: ShyAsrai</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/11/17/obamas-policy-evolution-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-426061</link>
		<dc:creator>ShyAsrai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve always been disgusted by the hubris of the general population; the assumption that all of the details &lt;i&gt;islamus horribulus&lt;/i&gt; is known by more than a very select few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve always been disgusted by the hubris of the general population; the assumption that all of the details <i>islamus horribulus</i> is known by more than a very select few.</p>
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		<title>By: cfbleachers</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/11/17/obamas-policy-evolution-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-426021</link>
		<dc:creator>cfbleachers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not unprincipled, principles of convenience.

What we don&#039;t know, we can&#039;t predict.  Will Frank Marshall Davis, suddenly disappear from the thought process?  &quot;Don&#039;t sell out, son&quot;

Will the radical professors?  Klonsky?  The New Party?  Ayers &amp; Dohrn?  &quot;Tear down the system&quot;

Will Khalidi?  And Said?  And Rev. Jackson?  &quot;Remove the Zionist influence&quot;.


Will Wright?  Pfleger?  Farrakhan?  Don Warden? &quot;The white man is evil and he has some payback coming and the Jews are at the front of the list&quot;


How about the Alinsky model?  ACORN? Soros?  &quot;Beat them to death with their own rulebook, but don&#039;t follow it yourself&quot;


It seems to me that people are again watching the magic show with their eyes fixated on the trinkets dangling from the sleeves, calling out what they think is the trick.  Who cares who gets the titular appointment?

The worker bees, the drones placed in the operational beehive who do the &quot;community organizing&quot; behind the scenes and out of sight...where real policies are made and enforced, that&#039;s where the dirt gets under the fingernails.

 (while the plum pickers at the top hold high level meetings on the merit and efficacy of navel lint ...with other high level plum pickers... at cross agency show horse exhibitions open to the &quot;scrutiny&quot; of our ever diligent entrenched media)

Look, shout out what you see...and believe in it, if it helps you sleep at night.

Me.  I have insomnia because I believe half of what I see and none of what I hear from our entrenched media.  Who ya gonna believe?  Me or your lyin&#039; eyes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not unprincipled, principles of convenience.</p>
<p>What we don&#8217;t know, we can&#8217;t predict.  Will Frank Marshall Davis, suddenly disappear from the thought process?  &#8220;Don&#8217;t sell out, son&#8221;</p>
<p>Will the radical professors?  Klonsky?  The New Party?  Ayers &amp; Dohrn?  &#8220;Tear down the system&#8221;</p>
<p>Will Khalidi?  And Said?  And Rev. Jackson?  &#8220;Remove the Zionist influence&#8221;.</p>
<p>Will Wright?  Pfleger?  Farrakhan?  Don Warden? &#8220;The white man is evil and he has some payback coming and the Jews are at the front of the list&#8221;</p>
<p>How about the Alinsky model?  ACORN? Soros?  &#8220;Beat them to death with their own rulebook, but don&#8217;t follow it yourself&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems to me that people are again watching the magic show with their eyes fixated on the trinkets dangling from the sleeves, calling out what they think is the trick.  Who cares who gets the titular appointment?</p>
<p>The worker bees, the drones placed in the operational beehive who do the &#8220;community organizing&#8221; behind the scenes and out of sight&#8230;where real policies are made and enforced, that&#8217;s where the dirt gets under the fingernails.</p>
<p> (while the plum pickers at the top hold high level meetings on the merit and efficacy of navel lint &#8230;with other high level plum pickers&#8230; at cross agency show horse exhibitions open to the &#8220;scrutiny&#8221; of our ever diligent entrenched media)</p>
<p>Look, shout out what you see&#8230;and believe in it, if it helps you sleep at night.</p>
<p>Me.  I have insomnia because I believe half of what I see and none of what I hear from our entrenched media.  Who ya gonna believe?  Me or your lyin&#8217; eyes?</p>
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		<title>By: DRJ</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/11/17/obamas-policy-evolution-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-426008</link>
		<dc:creator>DRJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unprincipled is also unpredictable, and that&#039;s rarely good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unprincipled is also unpredictable, and that&#8217;s rarely good.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/11/17/obamas-policy-evolution-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-425993</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hard to know if Obama will be more comfortable being his true self -- innately and strongly of the left -- when it comes to foreign matters intead of domestic ones, or visa versa. 

My suspicion is that because of the lousy shape of the economy (in the US and worldwide), he&#039;ll favor very, very liberal approaches to governance regarding intra-national issues, but because the left in the US won&#039;t be as affected on a day-to-day basis by his disappointing their preferences on national security and the military, he&#039;ll possibly will be less dogmatic regarding international issues. So Obama will cost all of us big bucks, and waste lots of money, by having a religious zeal towards issues like global warming, but he&#039;ll be less foolish when it comes to topics like Israel, the Palestinians, Iraq, etc.

But in general, I will be very surprised if he makes more than a feeble attempt to tone down his leftism over the next 4 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to know if Obama will be more comfortable being his true self &#8212; innately and strongly of the left &#8212; when it comes to foreign matters intead of domestic ones, or visa versa. </p>
<p>My suspicion is that because of the lousy shape of the economy (in the US and worldwide), he&#8217;ll favor very, very liberal approaches to governance regarding intra-national issues, but because the left in the US won&#8217;t be as affected on a day-to-day basis by his disappointing their preferences on national security and the military, he&#8217;ll possibly will be less dogmatic regarding international issues. So Obama will cost all of us big bucks, and waste lots of money, by having a religious zeal towards issues like global warming, but he&#8217;ll be less foolish when it comes to topics like Israel, the Palestinians, Iraq, etc.</p>
<p>But in general, I will be very surprised if he makes more than a feeble attempt to tone down his leftism over the next 4 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/11/17/obamas-policy-evolution-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-425984</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let them investigate. Let Gorlick build another wall and get 3,000 Americans killed again and she may as well have shot the 3,000 on 9-11 herself. She wouldn&#039;t be any more guilty. I expect to see the lynch mobs on the street as soon as it happens. Rocks and pitchforks can be very effective and &#039;deadly&#039;, rope will never go out of syle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let them investigate. Let Gorlick build another wall and get 3,000 Americans killed again and she may as well have shot the 3,000 on 9-11 herself. She wouldn&#8217;t be any more guilty. I expect to see the lynch mobs on the street as soon as it happens. Rocks and pitchforks can be very effective and &#8216;deadly&#8217;, rope will never go out of syle.</p>
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		<title>By: voiceofreason2</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/11/17/obamas-policy-evolution-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-425982</link>
		<dc:creator>voiceofreason2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Comment by Dana — 11/17/2008 @ 8:29 pm&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The scariest one I saw in terms of ignoring it was Carter. According to Novak in his &quot;Prince of Darkness&quot; bio Carter had set up as part of his war plans to cede parts of Europe in the event Russia invaded. Novak had a source who told him this and he printed it (top secret material by the way). Carter ended up changing the plans.
I hope Obama doesn&#039;t repeat that kind of naive approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Comment by Dana — 11/17/2008 @ 8:29 pm</p></blockquote>
<p>The scariest one I saw in terms of ignoring it was Carter. According to Novak in his &#8220;Prince of Darkness&#8221; bio Carter had set up as part of his war plans to cede parts of Europe in the event Russia invaded. Novak had a source who told him this and he printed it (top secret material by the way). Carter ended up changing the plans.<br />
I hope Obama doesn&#8217;t repeat that kind of naive approach.</p>
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		<title>By: The Haiku Avenger</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/11/17/obamas-policy-evolution-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-425980</link>
		<dc:creator>The Haiku Avenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our esteemed host wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I like my Republicans principled and my Democrats unprincipled. I’m happy to see him break any campaign promise to do something stupid.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obama will break
Any promise he has made
Just get used to it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our esteemed host wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I like my Republicans principled and my Democrats unprincipled. I’m happy to see him break any campaign promise to do something stupid.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama will break<br />
Any promise he has made<br />
Just get used to it</p>
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		<title>By: voiceofreason2</title>
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		<dc:creator>voiceofreason2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DRJ,
I am not sure that he saw significantly much more. The senate and house have oversight committees that are cleared for almost all info and report general findings back to the rest of the senate or house. But the number of people who see the full scope of the raw material, sources and methods is very limited. I don&#039;t think that Obama was on the oversight committee.
I think it is possible he had some idea as you noted and played it to his political advantage in that Bush could not divulge the very information that would blunt/debunk the criticisms of his policy. The buck stops here thought could be on target as well. I think most people who are president would not take it off the table once they are filling the chair. His opinion on the legality may not have changed but the fear of getting one wrong may keep him from pursuing that opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DRJ,<br />
I am not sure that he saw significantly much more. The senate and house have oversight committees that are cleared for almost all info and report general findings back to the rest of the senate or house. But the number of people who see the full scope of the raw material, sources and methods is very limited. I don&#8217;t think that Obama was on the oversight committee.<br />
I think it is possible he had some idea as you noted and played it to his political advantage in that Bush could not divulge the very information that would blunt/debunk the criticisms of his policy. The buck stops here thought could be on target as well. I think most people who are president would not take it off the table once they are filling the chair. His opinion on the legality may not have changed but the fear of getting one wrong may keep him from pursuing that opinion.</p>
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