Breaking: Palin Cleared in Tasergate
Details here:
A report has cleared Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin of ethics violations in the firing of her public safety commissioner.
Released Monday, the report says there is no probable cause to believe Palin or any other state official violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with the firing. The report was prepared by Timothy Petumenos, an independent counsel for the Alaska Personnel Board.
The only remaining scandal is how a state trooper didn’t get fired for tasering his ten-year-old stepson.
Oh My Gawd!!!!!!!!!!!!
A report from the orginization constitutionally charged with enforcing ethics within the Executive Branch of the Alaskan State Government.
But, how can this happen?
Did anyone consult Olberdouche first?
This, this, … it’s just not supposed to happen.
I blame Bush!
Note to love2008: Tasergate, not Troopergate, here at PP!
Another Drew (7e15a8) — 11/3/2008 @ 7:16 pmI’m sure there will a plethora of forthcoming public apologies made to Palin for assumptions of guilt voiced by eager journos.
Dana (658c17) — 11/3/2008 @ 7:23 pmWell, the investigation launched and supported by the democratically elected, Republican dominated legislative branch said one thing.
And now a day before the election a body within the executive branch Palin has control over and gets to appoint people to says another.
It’s a solid win in her favor, if you hate the idea of balance of power and independent inquiry.
Aplomb (b6fba6) — 11/3/2008 @ 7:39 pmYes the Democratically elected representative who is chairman of the Obama campaign in Alaska found one way and the board charged with the responsibility found another. I thought that was what you meant to write. Just a slip of the keyboard.
Mike K (2cf494) — 11/3/2008 @ 7:42 pmAplomb,
The Branchflower report was conducted by Democrats and it hasn’t even been accepted or approved by the Alaska Legislature. Meanwhile, the State Personnel Board that released this report is charged with conducting ethics investigations, and this one was conducted by an independent investigator.
DRJ (cb68f2) — 11/3/2008 @ 7:49 pmAplomb, Steven Branchflower was in Hollis French’s pocket all along. Branchflower sheepishly admitted he didn’t have control of his own investigation. Your MSM buddies missed that part.
Some of Branchflower’s questions to Walt Monegan would have been hilarious if it wasn’t a dirty political trick.
For example:
Holy leading the witness, Batman!
L.N. Smithee (d1de1b) — 11/3/2008 @ 7:58 pmAn independent investigator who is a registered Democrat and who contributed to the campaign of Tony Knowles, Sarah Palin’s opponent in the 2006 General Election.
Another Drew (7e15a8) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:00 pmSo Palin’s hand-picked board cleared her.
Big surprise there.
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:07 pmJust saying, the title of this post “Palin Cleared in Tasergate” is misleading.
There are two competing investigations. One is filed by a person independent of the target of investigation, who has been charged with the investigation by a separate branch of government, which as it happens is controlled by the same party as the Governor who is the target of the inquiry, so that if one finds the final report biased you have to wonder why the legislative body who launched the report chose such a partisan investigator. Perhaps the party in charge of the state’s legislature is suicidal, or maybe they had respect and trust in the investigator enough to issue an unbiased report.
The other is conducted by a body who are appointed by, ultimately report to, and have their jobs at the whims of the target of the inquiry, the Governor. I guess we should just assume they are totally unbiased and reached the correct result.
Aplomb (b6fba6) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:07 pmAlert…
Another Drew (7e15a8) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:10 pmPartisan Brain Cramp on aisle #’s 3, 8, 9.
Pssst… hey, Democrats — even the supposedly “damning” report found nothing wrong. The author had to reach for a redefinition of the ethics statutes in order to find a violation of them.
Rob Crawford (b5d1c2) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:16 pmComment 9 seems to have a pretty valid argument. If this were the only (or even a small portion of the…)reason why people overwhelmingly believe that Palin is not ready to be VP let alone president then it may have made a difference.
truthnjustice (d99227) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:17 pmAplomb,
The Branchflower report came to contradictory conclusions. It found that Palin’s actions were legal but nevertheless violated an ethics law. Today’s report said she did neither.
DRJ (cb68f2) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:18 pm“There are two competing investigations.”
Aplomb – The investigations are not competing. There was no complaint filed by Moneghan after he was fired. The legislature decided to look into it themselves out of partisan reasons.
The Personnel Board is the entity tasked with investigating ethics complaints. You would know this if you followed the events. Palin essentially filed a complaint against herself and forced an investigation by the personnel board.
It helps if you know the background and parties involved before embarrassing yourself.
daleyrocks (60704b) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:18 pmAnd if you want to claim the Legislative response trumps the Personnel Board’s report, then at least wait for the Legislature to act on the report.
DRJ (cb68f2) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:19 pmThe Branchflower re[ort had a lot of mindreading to reach its conclusions, but did not conclude Palin improperly fired Moneghan, the purpose of the investigation. The potential ethics issue involved Tasergate,not the firing.
daleyrocks (60704b) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:21 pmDRJ
It still amazes me that a career police officer and the ENTIRE DEMOCRAT PARTY – is still defending a guy who threated to kill a woman and a senior citizen and tazered a child.
EricPWJohnson (500258) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:21 pmReally? The left’s made Mumia Abu-Jamal into a hero, why would their doing the same of Wooten surprise you?
Rob Crawford (b5d1c2) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:24 pmThe Democrats aren’t willing to throw a man in uniform under the bus for personaal gain, eric?
The Republicans are, though.
snuffles (677ec2) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:25 pmBelieve what you wanna believe, Aplomb.
I’ve read the report, and it’s ridiculous. The whole deal was about whether she improperly fired Monegan. Conclusion? Uh, no. So Branchflower cut-and-pasted a knock on Palin like a ransom note so the Obamamedia could pile on her again, delivering that “October Surprise” Hollis French PROMISED was coming.
When the New York Freakin’ Times admits Palin’s in the clear, I believe them. Because they hate her guts.
L.N. Smithee (e1f2bf) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:27 pmMR. BRANCHFLOWER: Now, as an experienced police officer -you’ve described your career. I want to ask you about something that’s called police radar. It’s sort of a sixth sense that police develop about things that go on about them. And whether it be — whether they might be working a case or interviewing people, they have a sense of what is really going on. Have you developed that so-called sixth sense?
MR. MONEGAN: I think I have, yeah. Do not underestimate the power of The Force. Your ability to think logically and reach logical conclusions in accordance with articulable, observable, objective facts is insignificant compared to the power of The Force.
nk (95bfab) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:29 pmglue sniffer wrote:
Scuse me? I’ll put Palin dumping on the drunk-driving stepson-tasering moose-poaching death-threatener up against Jack Murtha accusing Marines of homicide before an investigation and refusing to apologize after their acquittal.
I win.
L.N. Smithee (e1f2bf) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:30 pmSnuffles
If I were driving a bus, and saw a guy draw down on his stepson and wife and the woman being shielded by her elderly father in law – with the clear intent to shoot to kill – let me see – acccording to the democrats I should stop the bus and politely inquire if any of the the soon to be dead victims were engaged in any close political races that could affect the outcome of the future of the country
Or I could shift gears and accelerate….
EricPWJohnson (500258) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:31 pmSnuffles
And shift gears and accelerate and knock him unconcious……
Then let the jury decide the death penalty
EricPWJohnson (500258) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:33 pmI don’t know why you call it a brian cramp AD.
Try this hypothetical from July 2009:
Chairman Boxer (D) of the Senate Ethics Committee launches ethics investigation into President Obama for (some reason). She and GOP Ethics Vice Chairman Cornyn (R) choose Rudy Guiliani to lead it, and the whole Committee based on Rudy’s proven investigative skills vote for Rudy to take charge, despite or maybe because of the fact Rudy is not of the same party as the target of the inquiry.
Obama denounces the whole investigation as being partisan, tells the press he will rely on the investigation being run by the proper body in the Executive branch of which he has complete control and which he appoints people to.
The Guiliani Report is unfavorable to Obama, finding ethics breaches, even though a Democratic Senate launched it in the first place.
And then later Obama’s Justice Department’s office of Ethics (or whatever the federal analogue would be) clears Obama of any wrongdoing.
If all that happened, would you all be chirping that Obama was cleared of whatever ethics breach was investigated and found violated in the Senate inquiry, simply because the inquiry launched within the Executive branch Obama controls cleared him?
Aplomb (b6fba6) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:33 pmYeah, you’re tough Patterico.
Larry Reilly (d11f9a) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:34 pmYou yelled Tasergate over and over and over but when the Branchflower report came out a while back you said nothing, zero, zip, nada. One of your minions simply posted a link saying “Beldar” didn’t like it.
And that was all, until just now. After all your huff and puff and bluster weeks ago you didn’t touch the Branchflower report.
You wimped, Patterico. You’re playing on the cheap and boosting off this mouth-breathing choir.
Can you tell us here that you didn’t bother to read the Branchflower report?
So now you post. Ta-da. Heh-heh. This home-team report that came out today got your juices going. There is nothing else “remaining,” you say now, except maybe more bad stuff about the brother-in-law.
I’d love to see you try to do two incompitable things:
1) read the Branchflower report and digest it.
2) tell Walt Monegan to his face that there’s nothing else remaining as far as settling that matter is concerned.
Patterico, you are playing on a Little League diamond that you set up yourself and you’re pretending that it’s The Bigs.
Yuk. Yuk.
Come on in munchkins, and yap about trolls.
Larry Reilly, evidently you didn’t read the Branchflower report yourself.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:40 pm“A man (or woman) hears what they want to hear and disregards the rest”
Paul Simon
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:46 pmLet’s read the transcript of the tape of the Khalidi dinner attended by Obama instead. Much more interesting.
Official Internet Data Office (6c7d18) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:50 pmJimmy, you’ve already been caught misrepresenting the status of that report in one thread.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/3/2008 @ 8:57 pmHonestly I think Reilly’s post is actually tongue in cheek – I mean – no one could possibly be that deep a koolaid drinking democrataton could they?
EricPWJohnson (500258) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:04 pmI’m still trying to figure out who got fired.
papertiger (d55d4c) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:12 pmAs the story goes Commissioner Gordon was transfered to the poaching salmon task force, didn’t like the idea, and quit.
Maybe someone should investigate the demons inside Commissioner Gordon’s head, that caused him to self terminate?
The bipartisan legislative committee had 12 members: 8 Republicans, 4 Democrats. They voted unanimously to release the report. The report was done for them at their request, by Branchflower. He found she broke the law.
There, Is that any better?
Jimmy the toaster (a0efe0) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:14 pmMaybe he just didn’t like the smell of fish.
papertiger (d55d4c) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:16 pmJimmy, and just why was it that you couldn’t correctly describe the report on the other thread? What made you misrepresent its status?
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:17 pmI’m betting Jimmy is one of those guys who has a Bush lied People died bumpersticker.
papertiger (d55d4c) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:18 pmAnd he believes Joe Wilson is a great American hero.
I think the trolls missed a part of the report:
The next finding.
I find that, although Walt Monegan’s refusal to fire trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public safety. In spite of that, Governor Palin’s firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads.
Funny how you missed that.
Mike K (2cf494) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:20 pmBranchflower is a registered Democrat. Funny how he missed that, too.
Official Internet Data Office (6c7d18) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:22 pmFor the record, I want to point out that Larry Reilly thinks I’m a minion but you’re all just munchkins.
So there.
DRJ (cb68f2) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:24 pmJimmy the toaster,
Maybe the Alaska Legislature will someday approve the Branchflower report, but releasing it is not the same as accepting and approving it.
DRJ (cb68f2) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:25 pmDRJ, munchkin is probably the best thing I’ve been called in years.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:25 pmHeh. Larry must be in a good mood tonight.
DRJ (cb68f2) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:27 pmBack on my home board, DRJ, I’ve got a complete raving loon with a lot of history with us. He’s getting quite frustrated that he can’t think of an original insult to call me.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:29 pmI hope the democrats can adapt to lighting their homes with lightening bugs and heating their homes with Faire farts. Hussein has decreed no other fuel can be used after he bankrupts the power and coal industry.
Scrapiron (ce69ff) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:31 pmis the toaster the same troll as the tapeworm the other night?
It did not take long for sniffles to start lying in this thread …
I find … not the committee, not the Legislature, not a Judge, but I, the non-partisan arbiter of all that is just and true in this world.
Face it folks, we know this, but these trolls have a complete disregard for facts. You put a fact in front of their face, and they say,”Holy crap on a cracker” and then “look, over there. Something shiny”.
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:34 pmHi JD. Is snuffles alphie or a different one?
happyfeet (5836ae) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:36 pmWe shall await criminal charges. Olberdouchenozzle and Madcow promised a frog march.
Again, tapeworm, back to the HE found thing … not conclusive, nor particulary moving, except in a bowel movement kind of way. Go on supporting people who use a tazer on an 11-year old.
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:39 pmWrong. Exact opposite of reality.
Rob Crawford (b5d1c2) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:39 pmI think sniffles is related to alphie. They certainly went to the same Troll Finishing School, where they learned similar styles.
happyfeet is my mostest favoritest Baracky supporter in the whole wide world.
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:40 pmComment by Aplomb — 11/3/2008 @ 8:33 pm
First of all – and by all normal thinking this would end it but I’ll play along, or not, depending on how this goes –
No Senate Cmte has the authority to initiate an ethics investigation into the activities of a President – it’s a seperation of powers issue.
Any investigation of a President, for “High Crimes & Misdemeanors” must be done by the House Cmte on the Judiciary subsequent to the introduction of a Bill of Impeachment.
Furthermore, Sen.
BouncerBoxer, should be the last person to be investigating the integrity of another politician.Actually, now having read your piece of tripe, I’ll just stop here to keep myself from crapping all over you since you obviously have no idea how the Government of the United States is organized, nor how the Constitution assigns specific duties and powers to the specific branches of that Government. After you’ve taken a 10th-grade course on the Constitution and the United States Government, get back to us and we’ll have a conversation backed on knowledge, facts, and the educated concerns of an adult, not a pre-pubescent pimple-popper.
Now, I’ll type this real slow so you’ll be able to keep up:
The Legislative Branch has no ethics oversight of the Executive Branch under the Alsakan Constitution. That function is charged to the Personnel Board. Conversely, because of Seperation of Powers, the Executive Branch has no ethics oversight of members of the Legislative Branch. The Personnel Board, upon receipt of a complaint against a member of the Executive Branch (Gov. Palin filed a complaint re Gov. Palin), engaged the services of a Special Prosecutor (outside counsel) to conduct this probe (sort of how the Senate Ethics Cmte in investigating the activities of the Keating-5, hired Robert Bennett, a renowned lawyer of impeccable credentials to do so). This investigator, a registered Democrat, and supporter of Tony Knowles (the Dem opponent of Sarah Palin in her quest for the Governor’s chair), found no violation of process, nor law.
Conversely, the Legislative Cmte took it upon themselves to conduct an investigation without any complaint filed, against a member of another branch that they had no authority to investigate, nor any ability to punish.
It was a political witch-hunt of the first order, sort of like what you used to complain about when it was done by Dan Burton.
Now, go away and stop bothering the adults!
Another Drew (7e15a8) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:47 pmBaracky’s gonna lose but I’m only telling you cause I want to see everybody’s faces when they find out.
happyfeet (5836ae) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:55 pmAD – Bravo. If they were smart, they would say, “Gee AD, we were dumb asses, commenting without knowledge”. They will not.
Oh, and Dan Burton is my Congresscritter.
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:55 pmhappyfeet – I pray you are right, and fear you are wrong.
But, I have to admit that either way, your comments on the 5th should be priceless.
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:56 pmComment by JD — 11/3/2008 @ 9:55 pm
Thanks, JD!
Another Drew (7e15a8) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:59 pmActually, I like Dan, he just goes a little overboard at times, particularly when he loses sight of the real meat.
We’ll see, but I think we dodged the bullet this time. People are forgetting I think that if the media could for real choose our presidents for us they would have done it a long time ago.
happyfeet (5836ae) — 11/3/2008 @ 9:59 pmThe upside to Baracky winning is that there will be no shortage of good blogging on the Right.
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:07 pmI’ll miss choosing things though.
happyfeet (5836ae) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:08 pmOh, and Dan Burton is my Congresscritter.
My congress critter is running unopposed. His nostrils are on the ticket with him, though.
MayBee (37070f) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:12 pmMayBee, you have my eternal condolences on your association with Henry.
Another Drew (7e15a8) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:17 pmYou live in Henry Waxman’s district ?!?!?!
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:17 pmHa!! You guys got that in record time! Hilarious!
MayBee (37070f) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:18 pmCan you imagine how far Waxman will jam his nostrils ups The Chosen One’s rectum upon his ascension?
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:18 pmCan you imagine how far Waxman will jam his nostrils ups The Chosen One’s rectum upon his ascension?
Ewww. He’ll look like like a brown Play-Doh Fun Factory.
MayBee (37070f) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:23 pmUsing the same quote from one gentleman doing his mindreading act, after it has been thoroughly repudiated above, just puts jimmy the tapeworm firmly in the troll category.
MayBee – He reminds me of Mr. Potato Head. They have the same moustache.
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:25 pmjimmy the tapeworm
What say you?
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:26 pmThis is getting way beyond stupid, and your refusal read the english language is almost clinically fascinating at this point
Jimmy the toaster (5f83af) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:32 pmSo the Board that has the actual duty to investigate ethics complaints found differently than jimmy the tapeworm, the partisan hack running the Legislative “investigation”, and the version spun by the media, so, we should just ignore their real findings for some partisan asshattery that makes jimmy the tapeworm have Olbergasms all over this thread.
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:35 pmComment by Jimmy the toaster — 11/3/2008 @ 10:20 pm
If I request that the State fire an abusive cop, and I am a private citizen, am I breaking the law?
That is what the Palin’s did, prior to Sarah Palin becoming Governor.
As Governor, they did not bring pressure upon Moneghan to fire their abusive, drunken, criminally assaultive, ex-brother-in-law.
Now, I’m not saying that his ex-wife (Sarah’s sister) had no contact with Moneghan.
I don’t know if the Governor’s father or mother had any contact either, though I wouldn’t be surprised since the father was a target of death threats by his ex-son-in-law.
But, I can tell you, if some POS cop had threatened my life, and had tazed my grandson, I would be moving heaven-and-earth to ensure that he never put a badge on his shirt again.
I can assure you, that every relevant civil-servant in the Capital on down would be on a first-name basis with me until I got that ass-hole fired.
And, everytime I had contact with someone, it would be reported to the local press,
I might even start my own paper or blog to ensure that as many people as possible knew how this reprobate was being protected by the bureaucracy.
But, that’s just me, a guy who never agreed to be a “Compassionate Conservative”.
Another Drew (7e15a8) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:35 pmjimmy the tapeworm – AD outlined this for another above, but it can just as easily be addressed to you. Frankly, your ignorance should be embarassing.
JD (5b4781) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:38 pmJust came back from the McCain rally in Henderson (Las Vegas) Nevada. The place was rocking and the crowd was fired up and ready to vote.
Perfect Sense (9d1b08) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:46 pmSince most Lib/Leftists/Dems are without standards of personal conduct (after all, aren’t concepts of right and wrong relative?), they are incapable of shame or embarrassment.
Another Drew (7e15a8) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:46 pmSort of like amoeba.
Do you think they react when prodded with a sharp object?
Comment by Perfect Sense — 11/3/2008 @ 10:46 pm
I’ve already voted, and have some projects to complete tomorrow, but after those,
Another Drew (7e15a8) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:52 pmI think I’ll go get a bottle of a good wine (instead of the vin ordinaire I usually swill –
I tell my wine-snob friends I need something to dilute my 7-Up with),
and watch the returns.
Whichever situation prevails, I think I’ll get toasted, or at least quite mellow.
You boys and girls be good!
I hope the democrats can adapt to lighting their homes with lightening bugs.
Mark Twain once commented on the fact that some people have trouble telling the difference between lightning and lightning bugs.
Mike K (2cf494) — 11/3/2008 @ 10:59 pmAplomb wrote:
Uh huh. I’m sure Boxer will get right on the Obama campaign’s deliberate switching off of its safeguards so it could take untold illegal amounts of money from outside of the country. She just can’t wait.
Dude, try to keep this in the realm of our universe, not the Bizarro World.
L.N. Smithee (41cab4) — 11/3/2008 @ 11:03 pmAlaska’s Personnel Board is appointed by the governor and is not, therefor, trustworthy. Of course they are going to find their boss innocent. This woman is a criminal. Thank goodness there’s no chance she’ll ever sit in the Oval Office!
Reaility (e6512a) — 11/4/2008 @ 4:46 amComment by Reaility — 11/4/2008 = ∞ moronic
Mossberg500 (9fd170) — 11/4/2008 @ 5:16 amReaility [sic}: Just think of it. Since Alaska became a state, the Personnel Board has been a part of the Executive Branch.
Horrors! No one noticed that the Personnel Board, charged to investigate the Executive Branch, was a part of the Executive Branch and therefore under the Governor.
Why it would be as if an investigation into the Keating Five (4 Democrats and 1 Republican)was made by a Democratic controlled Senate with the Chair of the Ethics Committee a Democrat and the chief investigator a Democrat!
This is an non issue. The Personnel Board appointed an independent investigator, a Democrat who supported the Democratic candidate for governor in the last election, and this independent investigator found for Governor Palin. Just as the Democratic chief counsel found no reason to charge McCain.
longwalker (dda662) — 11/4/2008 @ 5:20 amI find “Jimmy the toaster” in violation of Ascension Island municipal charter para. 436, ‘Being Stupid In Public.’
EW1(SG) (30b6a1) — 11/4/2008 @ 5:21 amThey actually PAID a lawfirm to publish this report…the real joke is how many uneducated fools are influenced by this.
John (2d2ed2) — 11/4/2008 @ 5:56 amThat’s too bad they fell for it. Well… Alaska will have her back soon. They can have her. Most of the country does not want her. I for one.
Obama/Biden 2008
Pamela Rainsong (99243c) — 11/4/2008 @ 6:02 amLongwalker: interesting analogy. If the Keating 5 investigation had been conducted by anything but Democrats, it would have been the Keating 3 investigation. McCain was the token obviously-innocent Republican, and Glenn was the token-just-as-obviously-innocent Democrat to cover up the obvious partisanship.
Xrlq (ee3919) — 11/4/2008 @ 6:47 amYou know who the country really doesn’t want? Joey Hairplugs, that’s who. Do you really want Joey, Pamela, or are you just that into The Messiah?
Pablo (99243e) — 11/4/2008 @ 7:09 amI was wrong on this topic and I believe I trolled with this as a banner.
I don’t like being wrong.
Worse, I don’t like being the Swift-Boater. Not one bit.
Bah
i like america (d2f951) — 11/4/2008 @ 7:11 amILA-
You trusted too much? It’s not like anyone who wasn’t looking closely/wasn’t already a little paranoid would have noticed the details, the way the news was putting it out before.
Although I still dislike using “swiftboater” that way– the guys who were accused of “swift-boating” were treated the very same way by the news.
Foxfier (7b9ba7) — 11/4/2008 @ 6:59 amComment by Foxfier — 11/4/2008 @ 6:59 am
Comment by i like america — 11/4/2008 @ 7:11 am
Time travel! I replied to your post before your post! 0.o
Foxfier (7b9ba7) — 11/4/2008 @ 7:02 am/silly
Axelrods Astroturfers for Twooth
I know none of the trolls will answer, but I would be interested to see which member of this Board were appointed by Gov. Palin, and which were simply re-appointments from prior Administrations.
JD (5b4781) — 11/4/2008 @ 7:03 amXrlg : You realy know your “Keating Five” history.
The Democratic Senate Majority Leader, George Mitchell needed John McCain as a defendant because, otherwise, all the defendants would have been Democratics. The Chair of the Senate Ethics Committee John Stennis (IIRC) was told by Bob Bennett that John Glenn and John McCain were completely innocent and should be dropped from the hearing.
The Democrats, at Senator’s Mitchell’s direction, refused to release McCain. Therefore the Republicans on the committee refused to release Glenn. As the Ethics Committee was composed of three Democrats and three Republicans, both Glenn and McCain had to undergo the ordeal of the committee hearing and be found to be not “carefull” in their relationship with Keating.
JD : The three members of the Personnel Board were appointed by Governor Palin’s predecessor. However, Governor Palin did re-appoint one member to the Board when his term expired.
longwalker (ce69ff) — 11/4/2008 @ 8:19 amThanks, longwalker. It really does not matter, since the trolls do not care, but I was curious.
JD (5b4781) — 11/4/2008 @ 8:24 amMost of the country does not want her. I for one.
Sure, and quite naturally, most of the country must think as you do, right? Hilarious.
Dmac (e30284) — 11/4/2008 @ 8:26 am