Mormons are nice people and make for a great dog to kick in the Gay community. This whole episode is evidence enough, why I have little respect for most of these Gay Civic Organizations. They don’t have the ballz to to tackle real problems to help their community and always look for an easy out to their problems.

Gov.ts realised guys running around having kids all over the place with no way of forcing him into fatherhood was a BAD THING. Invent Marriage — it helps society keep healthy norms.

Why Gay Men are infatuated with it is beyond me. First they can’t have children as nature intended and second most gay men are happy with the promiscuity privelages. Why create a legal mechanism for getting screwed if you are caught screwing… pardon the phrase.

Frankly, I would only allow “Gay Marriage” if they adopted a child. In this sense the construct of “gay marriage” makes for a societal purpose to creating it. Heck, I would only allow for straight marriage in the event of children,

Or as I told my wife when she debated having kids or not …. “I did not get married to have great sex and lots of narcissitic fun, For that I would stay single. I got married to have children and build something greater than me. You don’t want kids, I don’t want marriage.”

picking a fight with the LDS is simply pathetic, you know who your real enemies are….but you’re afraid of them.

Considering the skill with which the Mormons have, shall we say, dealth with authorities in the distant past…

Well, lets just say I’d worry more about pissing off the Mormons…

Thanks for correcting me on the democracy wording.

Well…

I present my argument because I feel that both sides have been arguing over extraneous side-issues. I really think that this is more obvious than many sides make it out be. I mean we have the pursuit of the Mormons now.

And then the real bigotry on both sides.

And then everyone seems so sure of their position. As if there is some great knowledge that only their side holds.

There’s no room for discussion. If you’re a religious person on one side trying to understand what is going on and find out what their position is, they cant. They’re bigots. They’re internal conflict matters nothing.

I simply try to find the obvious and try to ease things down for both sides.

I apologize.

And then people

If we conformed to these standards would we be TRULY satisfied?

Would we then live happily ever after in our All the Same world? My opinion is NO…this would be completely disastrous…it would leave us totally stripped of our uniqueness, which would be akin to life as a zombie.

I would rather not live than live a life such as that one.

Not allowing gays to be married is condoning an All the Same world.

Would you care to add your thoughts to my personal blog? I hope you do since I am trying to get a discussion going there. Thanks guys.

http://onlyonemeandmymotherisglad.blogspot.com/

I would remind you of the statement of Benjamin Franklin, whilst exiting the Constitutional Convention and asked what type of government had been devised:
A Republic, if you can keep it.

This is not a Democracy. It is a Republic, which operates under democratic ideals.
If other countries, in establishing a Democracy, wish to mimic the institution we call the Electoral College, that is their business. Of course, purists would say that an Electoral College can only exist in a Republic, since in a Democracy, the raw vote of the people is decisive; and therefore, an Electoral College is superfluous.

Abolishing the Electoral College….
Certainly, the EC is not at “right”, but, it is a provision of the Constitution of the United States of America (I’m sure you’ve heard of that document?), and any attempt to “abolish” it must conform to the provisions for modification contained within that document.

What a totally silly argument.