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10/22/2008

Obama’s Leadership

Filed under: 2008 Election — DRJ @ 11:44 am



[Guest post by DRJ]

As evidenced by his flip-flops on issues and propensity to vote present, Barack Obama seems to have a hard time taking firm positions on important topics. His specialty is contemplation and while that is an important trait, America’s President isn’t elected to be philosopher-in-chief. A leader must be prepared to take clear positions on important topics.

This is not leadership:

“Obama sidestepped a question on whether he would attend a summit of world leaders the Bush administration has called for Nov. 15 to discuss the global economic crisis, saying he has ideas but doesn’t want to say much about them yet.

“We have one president at a time,” he said.”

With only two weeks to go before the election, now would be a good time to share those ideas, Senator Obama.

Of course, normally I’d applaud Obama’s reluctance to second-guess a sitting President dealing with foreign governments but Obama has already demonstrated his willingness to comment on Bush’s policies in Iraq. Just last month Obama’s national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi confirmed Obama “told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a ‘Strategic Framework Agreement’ governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office.” Now that agreement may be on hold due to reluctance by Iraqi Cabinet members.

If Obama is willing to comment with foreign leaders regarding how the President and commander-in-chief handles the Iraq War, he should certainly be willing to comment on a world financial summit. Then again, maybe Obama just needs more time and he’ll be ready sometime next week.

— DRJ

38 Responses to “Obama’s Leadership”

  1. We know nothing about Obama’s leadership because he has never led anything. All he does is hide behind his leftist illuminati beliefs that are packaged as a new direction for America. His new direction will cause our country to cease to exist as we know it and will invite enemies from the world over to c’mon in and push us around.

    Jeff (86606e)

  2. Sounds like Sen. Kerry’s super duper double secret plan to surrender in Iraq.

    JD (c69925)

  3. Leadership, the economy, Iraq,…..

    All issues where rationalizations are more plentiful than reasons. An Obama supporter will tell you that he’s a thoughtful leader and that leadership is important to them. Ditto for McCain. We only get a glimpse of the actual merit of these factors when we detrend them by favorability ratings.

    Then what does it tell us?

    Well, most directly how much a person whats to vote for a candidate despite some perceived deficiency. We still don’t know the why–the fundamental reason why–a person favors one candidate over another.

    But, there is something of interest. It turns out that just as people think and process information characteristically, this method and mode of dealing with the environment correlates to political affiliation. It is the famous Myers-Briggs measures. What can be more fundamental about a person?

    A Myers-Briggs metric tends to be rather constant over the person’s adult life. We recognize various personality types by Myers-Briggs. AND political affiliation correlates.

    The causality is Myers-Briggs type -> political affiliation (at least to the degree that it tends to be relevant).

    Try it yourself. There are online tests and results that can be googled (Myers Briggs political affiliation). Remember. The correlation is just statistical. Not everyone of one type votes a specific way, but more than don’t, do.

    Then, knowing this, what can we really say about the issues and the polls? A lot more than before for sure. Plus, what we learn is less partisan and more revealing of what really is going on in the race.

    PashaG (3de24f)

  4. I think it just means that Barack doesn’t know shit about economics as his plans on taxes and spending indicate and he is worried about getting embarrassed on a world stage. His ego and pride say avoid such situations.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  5. “We have one president at a time,” he said.”

    Oh, snap. All of a sudden Barry respects the electoral process. Tomorrow he’ll be back to assuming the position of King of all bitter clingy people.

    Vermont Neighbor (c91cfe)

  6. I think it just means that Barack doesn’t know shit about economics as his plans on taxes and spending indicate and he is worried about getting embarrassed on a world stage. His ego and pride say avoid such situations.

    Of course you’re right. But he could get the media to fill in the gaping holes, cuz hell… that always works.

    Vermont Neighbor (c91cfe)

  7. Ahem.

    Ohio———-FOX News/Rasmussen. . . . McCain 49, Obama 47
    Florida——NBC/Mason-Dixon . . . . . . . McCain 46, Obama 45
    Nevada—–Politico/InAdv. . . . . . . . . . . McCain 47, Obama 47
    NC————SurveyUSA. . . . . . . . . . . . . McCain 47, Obama 47
    Missouri—-Suffolk . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . McCain 45, Obama 44
    Virginia—-NBC/Mason-Dixon. . . . . . . . Obama 47, McCain 45

    Official Internet Data Office (e53e3b)

  8. If past behavior is any clue, those recent polling numbers will bring out The Trolls en masse. Countdown begins…one….two…

    Dmac (e30284)

  9. 7. How can those possibly be correct numbers if Drudge says Zogby polling has Obama with almost a ten point lead??? Something smells in Denmark. The betting in Vegas says Obama and the world awaits His Inevitablness’s glorious ascension.

    I hope you racists realize what is best for your country and get rid of your white sheets and typical white man prejudices. It will best for the country as a whole when you yahoos give up your guns, religion and hate speech. Oh, and bitterness too needs surrendering.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  10. Max – Chill. The riots aren’t for two weeks. Car-Be-Cues, just like France, with yutes of undetermined pigmentation.

    Perchance if you gaze upon the internals of a lot of the MSM polls you might notice they oversample the young, the black, and Democrats. The publishers of the “Obama leads by largest amount yet” stories won’t tell you that though. Correcting for those biases based on historical records get you closer to the above results. Obama’s results in the primaries were overpredicted by an average of 7%. Keep that between you and me.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  11. Max – we appreciate your comments. though I find stunning that any critism is deemed to be racist.

    Sense you are more enlightened – please tell me what country has a stronger ecomony than the US? Can you tell what country’s economy or even one country which has improved economically long term realtive to the US economy under the policies Obama advocates. Can you tell me why those countries that have solialist type economies are trying to move back toward more capitalism yet your party is trying to be more prgressive.

    I await your response. I prefer a rational cohent response.

    Joe - Dallas (d7c430)

  12. Joe – what Max was doing was a parody. Read his other posts and you’ll get the general drift.

    Dmac (e30284)

  13. The answer Obama gave to Charlie Gibson in the primary debate told me what his knowledge of economics is. Gibson asked Obama about the effects of capital gains tax increases. When Obama said he would raise the rates, Gibson said that an increase might reduce revenue to the government from the tax. Obama said it wouldn’t matter; he would still raise rates for “fairness.” There you have it. Taxes are not to raise revenue for the government but to “spread the money around.”

    Obama could not have been clearer about his policy.

    Mike K (f89cb3)

  14. Fairness, in Baracky’s book, always seems to require the government to take from one person, and give to another. Fair is a code word for collectivism.

    JD (c69925)

  15. Kind of OT, okay, a lot off topic …

    But after all of the whining about being called a Muslim by the McCain campaign, despite nobody actually doing so, Baracky’s economic spokesdouchenozzle, Goolsbee, had the temerity to ask McCain’s spokesman if he was a Muslim.

    Apparently, they have no problem letting loose, as they know the media is not going to call them on it.

    JD (c69925)

  16. 11- I have no party as a registered Independent. As a youth, my first Potus vote was for G. Wallace, the Dixiecrat. Not very sensitive of me but I was truly working with some nasty NWA’s (and quite a few really nice blacks also). The media would have us go down the road to perdition. How much influence and big $$$ is George Soros betting on his puppet Obama’s victory? Who might be behind possible stock market anipulations? Did not that commie prick almost destroy British pound before? I have little doubt that Obama will have huge winning margins in places like Chitown and DC. One notes that those overwhelming margins in Chicago provided quite a edge compared to Hillary’s vote totals outside of Illinois.
    Neglected to use /.
    fwiw, no way in hell could I ever vote for a cipher like Nullbama. He’s even worse than algore or lurch sKerry. I’d also never vote for Hillary, but would settle for her now as potus if it meant no nobama. Much more pragmatic administration there I would think. Now we hear she has ruled out any more potus runs. Anyway I live in Booby Wexler’s district, so you know what I am surrounded by- lots of pink codepinko cars around too.
    Nobama- poverty from the ground up (moonbat elites excluded)

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  17. Dmac & Madmax- if that was a parady, then my apologies. Though I would be happy to have an Obbama supporter provide a coherent response to the question.

    Joe - Dallas (d7c430)

  18. daleyrocks- most everyone I know is clueless about those French cities burning by the hundreds or all those geezers dying from the summer heat wave sans AC. I suppose what happens to the cheese-eating surrender monkeys has no bearing on American news? But we ourselves are supposed to be concerned about what the frackin’ euroweenies think of us? What was that recent poll- Obama 64 to 4% over McCain in FwAnce? Why doesn’t the arrogant chardonnay corksucker run for leadership of Fwance then? Ditto for Deutschland and Eire.
    Just imagine the heat on the evil BusHitler if we had car fires en masse here in places like DC, Libery City, Watts, etc.? Of course we may well see that in a couple of weeks whether or not the magic negro wins. Know plenty of Euroturds who believe all the shite about Bush, including the mass deaths, rapes and other horrors inside the Super Dome in aftermath of Katrina- Bush’s genocide on blacks. And how about all those prisoners who were simply executed and dumped in the swamps?

    Joe Dallas-
    What’s your problem? We should be emulating those other countries. At least the great BO wants to level the playing field for the have-nots of the world. Hence that $900 billion or so for US relief war on intl. poverty. Add in the AGW costs and also being sodomized by what the UN wants. It will so wonderful to see a return to camelot. Surely Barry and Michelle are today’s JFK and Jackie K.?
    /

    I am Joe. screw the tokyo rose clones on this site.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  19. Though I would be happy to have an Obbama supporter provide a coherent response to the question.

    Comment by Joe – Dallas — 10/22/2008 @ 2:37 pm

    Hope springs eternal, Joe!

    CW Desiato (614aa7)

  20. Just a question for the Californians in anticipation of the election celebrations. Do you still have those Food 4 Free supermarkets I remember from 1992?

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  21. Obama’s leadership? I have still yet to see one single solitary example of a serious issue that he was out in front of, providing leadership.

    JD (c69925)

  22. Car-B-Q’s….
    Well, the flames will provide a nice backdrop for identifying targets.

    Another Drew (d7f986)

  23. I have still yet to see one single solitary example of a serious issue that he was out in front of, providing leadership.

    JD, how can you lie about such a serious topic? Obama was absolutely out front and center of the issue of getting Obama elected President.

    Dmac (e30284)

  24. Dmac – How could I forget? That reminds me of him claiming his campaign for President as experience relevant to being President.

    JD (c69925)

  25. Why did Sarah Palin need clothing costing more than $150,000 paid for by the RNC?

    That hardly seems like a small town, golly-gee, aw shucks kind of purchase.

    Republicans: Hypocritical elitists who try very hard to pretend otherwise.

    Michelle Obama may have ordered expensive room service at the Waldorf-Astoria in NYC the other day, but her political party has yet to drop $150k on clothes for her.

    Somehow I don’t think they ever will, either.

    Sarah Palin: Just an ordinary small-town maverick with a six-figure fashion habit.

    Say it ain’t so!

    Metacom (b8c7e2)

  26. He doesn’t want to take part because he wants to use the economy against the Republicans. To hell with solving the problem.

    New politics?!

    Patricia (ee5c9d)

  27. What happened on your date with Jack Klompus, MetaHead? Did you two throw rocks at the local Starbuck’s, then make hot, dissident monkey love afterward? Any cuddling? Inquiring minds want to know!

    Dmac (e30284)

  28. Why did Sarah Palin need clothing costing more than $150,000 paid for by the RNC?

    Meta is late to the game, but a good soldier in making sure the Baracky/MSNBC/DNC talking points get out there.

    Michelle Obama may have ordered expensive room service at the Waldorf-Astoria in NYC the other day, but her political party has yet to drop $150k on clothes for her.

    Seeing as how they are multimillionaires, I suspect they can afford her wardrobe. $6000 earrings and all.

    Also, she is not running for either President or Vice President. Plus, all she needs is for Baracky to get her employer another earmark, and voila, another raise.

    JD (c69925)

  29. Dmac – I suspect Meta did not have time for a date, as she is too busy getting ready for the racist xenophobic Thanksgiving protests.

    JD (c69925)

  30. I can visualize the protest signs now, JD – Stop Gobblercide NOW!

    Dmac (e30284)

  31. Tofu Turkeys for all!!!!!

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  32. Metacom,

    You need to think about who’s buying clothes and who’s trying to buy an election. Do you think $150 million is a good amount to dump into one man’s career … over one month’s time ??

    Barack Obama is a meglo… he doesn’t have our best interests at heart. He’s already whispered about getting in and staying for 8- 10 years. It’s a dictator warning; not a loving papa figure.

    Vermont Neighbor (c91cfe)

  33. Barack Obama, the Specter behind the Mask:

    http://tinyurl.com/5l8qyg

    Soul (348d61)

  34. As evidenced by his flip-flops on issues and propensity to vote present, Barack Obama seems to have a hard time taking firm positions on important topics. His specialty is contemplation and while that is an important trait, America’s President isn’t elected to be philosopher-in-chief. A leader must be prepared to take clear positions on important topics.

    So true. Obama never answers a question. I have been waiting for months to hear that man answer a question. He yacks for 10 to 30 minutes, I strongly believe hoping you’ll just say the heck with it.

    Correction: He did reply to a question once. It took him some time to get to the answer, but he did give an answer to Joe Wurzelbacher.

    I am sure it’s safe to say he will not do that again.

    We do not need a great orator for president. We need someone that will get the job done and for the betterment of the American people of the American government.

    pumabydesign001 (7e77fc)

  35. I have still yet to see one single solitary example of a serious issue that he was out in front of, providing leadership.

    JD (a9d6c5)

  36. I have still yet to see one single solitary example of a serious issue that he was out in front of, providing leadership.

    Comment by JD — 10/24/2008 @ 5:21 am

    His own political career?

    CW Desiato (614aa7)

  37. I denounce myself. He has clearly shown leadership in how to raise money, how to throw people under the back of the bus, how to go back on your own word, and how to remove all safeguards that might put a check on fraudulent donations. That is leadership.

    JD (a9d6c5)

  38. CW – He has also shown leadership in advancing his political career. That is, if you are willing to make the assumption that he is not a Chicago Machine hack.

    JD (a9d6c5)


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