Patterico's Pontifications

It’s a shame that her talents are dismissed by some sour puss conservatives like David Frum and Peggy Noonan. They are devotees of a “perfect is the enemy of the good” school and miss her potential. Frum is a brilliant theorist but seems to want perfect theory and presentation before he will consider someone an ally. Noonan is still waiting for the reincarnation of Reagan, as is George Will. They will see the republic fall a long way before they get their perfect candidate. I think Palin may well be that candidate with a few more years of experience. If McCain loses the election, and I haven’t given up, I think she will run for Murkowski’s Senate seat in 2010. The Democrats hope she will go back to Wasilla but she will have an enthusiastic base by next month, including me.

Mike K (2cf494) — 10/14/2008 @ 2:31 pm

I don’t understand the Reagan-love from the intellectuals in the Republican party. It must a combination of nostalgia and sculpting of the past.

I remember that era quite well, thank you, and the MSM lambasted Reagan repeated for being a dimwit: falling asleep at meetings, consulting astrologers, vindictive toward political enemies, believing in creationism (and many pundits kept stating that “Ray-gun” would institute Armageddon due to his religious beliefs), gaffe prone, needless bellicose, incurious, and anti-intellectual.

Doesn’t all this sound familiar?

George Will and Peggy Noonan are certified intellectuals (not that I am claiming that is a good thing, necessarily). My guess regarding their support while Reagan was President was his personality, not his education, reasoning power, or temperance. It may be that this is what disturbs Noonan and Will about Palin-support: it reminds them of themselves.

Because I promise you, if Reagan were magically running for President today, saying precisely what he said and did then, those two would never, ever support him.

I think that intellectuals of the Right are turning into a version of Adlai Stevenson, constantly belitting everyday people and self-congratulating themselves on what they know.

That’s not enough, madam, we need a majority!
Response to a woman who called out to him: “Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!” during his 1956 campaign, as quoted in Anatomy of the Cuban Missile Crisis (2001) by James A. Nathan, p. 156

Eric Blair (02cc16) — 10/14/2008 @ 2:51 pm

VP candidates are supposed to be able to attract people from outside the base to the ticket, Mike.

Palin has no talent for this…since she was picked, 12 million McCain supporters have turned into Obama supporters.

Palin in 2012, please, Dear god.

What a landslide that will be.

snuffles (677ec2) — 10/14/2008 @ 3:28 pm

12 million McCain supporters have turned into Obama

And yet another Trollbot makes an unfounded statement – links for your sources, please.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/14/2008 @ 3:32 pm

The race went from dead even to a ten point lead for Obama, Dmac.

10 percent of American voters equals roughly 10-12 million Americans.

Palin has turned the Republican party into a regional party.

snuffles (677ec2) — 10/14/2008 @ 3:40 pm

VP candidates are supposed to be able to attract people from outside the base to the ticket, Mike.

If that were really the case, Obama would have done a whole lot better than a half-wit party hack like Biden.

JVW (becba1) — 10/14/2008 @ 3:41 pm

Snuffles, your mathematics is as bad as your analysis. Let’s assume you are correct and the race went from “dead even to a ten point lead for Obama.” You seem to be estimating about 100 million voters, a reasonable number. If it went from dead even (50 million to 50 million) to a ten point lead (55 million to 45 million), then only five million votes switched, not the 10 million you claim. Back to algebra with you.

JVW (becba1) — 10/14/2008 @ 3:44 pm

#5 Prior to naming Palin as his VP, McCain was behind Obama in the polls.
If the MSM examined Obama, like they have examined Palin’s daughter, Obama would be properly recognized as world-class affirmative-action failure.

Perfect Sense (9d1b08) — 10/14/2008 @ 3:45 pm

when i awoke/ my second-glaring notice of media bias was when reagan stuck to his economic policies thru the first term/around 12-18 months in i believe
anyway/tha media kept showing the SAME clip of peeps outside the sears building in chi-town/in sub zero temps/waiting in long line/all minorities of course/ we’re all gonna die narrative-cruel reagan..blah blah blah
alittle lite bulb went off in my head-‘these bastards are lying!-so i went from libby borden axe liberal to reagan dem/then HE won the cold war-again-no acknowledgement!
thanks MSM/converting one peeps at time
btw
how’s the unemployment line-a**holes
i try to have empathy
not now/SCARFACE-“U F*KED UP TO MEL-2 TIX TO LONDON?

pdbuttons (359493) — 10/14/2008 @ 3:46 pm

I MEANT TOO MEL/ALSO

pdbuttons (359493) — 10/14/2008 @ 3:47 pm

I stand corrected, JVW.

Palin has only turned about 6 million Republicans into Democrats (10 times Alaska’s total population) so far.

Quite a feat.

The jawbone of an ass, etc.

snuffles (677ec2) — 10/14/2008 @ 3:52 pm

Palin has no talent for this…since she was picked, 12 million McCain supporters have turned into Obama supporters.

I won’t correct your math as others have done that but the race is NOT a 10 point race. If it were, you trolls would be over on left wing blogs congratulating each other. Right now, I consider it within 2 points and the state races, because the polling is less frequent and less accurate, cannot be determined. I think it is within the range of error and the Bradley effect has it dead even. There goes your theory but we will only know on November 5.

Palin in 2012, please, Dear god.

What a landslide that will be.

Comment by snuffles

Yes, I agree. It will be a landslide. We just disagree on the winner. I just hope there will still be elections if Obama wins.

Mike K (2cf494) — 10/14/2008 @ 3:53 pm

Comment by Eric Blair — 10/14/2008 @ 2:51 pm

It was Nancy who consulted with an astrologer, and was duly raked over the coals for such by the exhalted media.

Another Drew (767298) — 10/14/2008 @ 3:58 pm

Snuffles (#11), not that I believe your analysis either, but at least you now have an appreciation for mathematics.

And the only way it would be true that they were “turned into Democrats” is if ACORN submitted the registration forms.

JVW (becba1) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:00 pm

Comment by snuffles — 10/14/2008 @ 3:28 pm

No, oh runny-nose-one, VP candidates are supposed to throw red-meat to the base by attacking the other team. It is the responsibility of the candidate for President to acquire support from members of the opposing party, and from independents.

Now, here’s a hankie, have a good blow, and don’t bother the adults anymore.

Another Drew (767298) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:03 pm

JVW,

If Christopher Buckley can be turned into a Democrat by Palin, Joe Sixpack certainly can be.

Admit it, a vast majority of Americans find Palin repulsive.

snuffles (677ec2) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:05 pm

Wohoo. Now both sides have their “The One”. I feel so misty eyed. Oh my…

j (5d386c) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:06 pm

well, actually…

If the race is at 43-45 before Palin, and after the race is 49-47, then there is a net gain on both sides. (I’m making the literal numbers up.)

Before Palin, Bambi was ahead. After Palin, JSM was ahead. After Acorngate, Bambi is ahead. But I don’t see any swing of thinking voters to the Democrat Party. I just see more voters for each side.

steve miller (0fb51f) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:07 pm

10 percent of American voters equals roughly 10-12 million Americans.

Amazing, you’ve stumbled on the magical formula, Snuff Film! Quick, make haste and alert the political analysts at the MSM immediately, they’re apparently in the dark about this unexplained phenomena – that apparently only you’ve discovered.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:08 pm

If Christopher Buckley can be turned into a Democrat by Palin, Joe Sixpack certainly can be.

Yeah, there’s another great analogy; a wealthy Ivy Leaguer (who’s a writer) is exactly like the typical middle – class voter. Brilliant! How does he do it?

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:11 pm

Hey, AD, I hope I didn’t come across badly. I like Reagan, and I didn’t think he was a dolt. Imagine how well that went across on my campus.

Anyway, Reagans published letters show quite a remarkable man.

As for the astrology business, you are correct about Nancy, but the MSM media at the time promoted the whole “Ronnie does whatever Nancy wants” meme.

What I was trying to say is that these pundit attacks on Palin (and GW Bush, for that matter) sound very familiar. And my most important point is that Will and Noonan’s criticisms of Palin could have been applied (other than dropping “g”s in language) to Ronald Reagan, who they revered.

They don’t like outsiders, period.

But I hope that Dr. K. is correct, and that Palin’s popularity with many suggest that voters don’t want professional politicians so much anymore!

We’ll find out soon enough.

Some trolls, huh? I wonder if they are the same people….

Eric Blair (02cc16) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:23 pm

Admit it, a vast majority of Americans find Palin repulsive.

Now you’re just fooling yourself. I might as well claim that a vast majority of Americans find Obama to be a terrorist sympathizer. I fear you have no understanding of the word “vast,” let alone “majority.” Better enroll in remedial English along with that math course.

JVW (ce227e) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:31 pm

That Palin is enjoying herself on the campaign trail just makes liberals hate her even more. Witness the comments of our trolls.

daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:33 pm

since she was picked, 12 million McCain supporters have turned into Obama supporters.

This seems like an aggressive lie on its face.

I just picked up tickets to see Gov. Palin speak in Indy on Friday. I am taking my 6 year old. I took her to see Hillary in the primaries. I tried to take her to see Baracky, but apparently I did not have the proper Democrat party credentials.

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:36 pm

Comment by Eric Blair — 10/14/2008 @ 4:23 pm

Eric, I know that you are one of the thinkers here, but I had to jump on that to ensure that the non-thinkers didn’t run away with it.

The media has been shameless in their outright advocacy for the Dems/Libs since the JFK coronation. This year they have reached a new low in their duplicity.

The one thing that makes it bearable is knowing that they are slowly going out of business, and that the discomfort that the manufacturing sector has had for some time, will shortly be visited upon the media.

George Will came to everyone’s attention as Reagan’s sparing mate in the 1980 debate practices. If it wasn’t for baseball, I wonder if he would still be around. He thinks he’s an Alsop, but I don’t find him that clear.
As for Peggy Noonan, a great writer, but not a very perceptive political theorist. Remember how she vacilated back and forth the last election?
Perhaps she should stick to writing about her immigrant Grandmother?

Another Drew (767298) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:37 pm

AD, sniffles has to do with a runny nose, snuffles has to do with a (thankfully) much less frequent malady, which at the moment I will not mention.

If the majority of US voters don’t like Palin but will vote for Obama, so be it. It doesn’t change the fact that Obama is the least qualified candidate in over 50 years, the farthest to the left of any serious candidate ever, the first to approve of infanticide in certain situations, and is personally embroiled, along with other major Dems, in the fannie and freddy fiasco. If he wins, America will get the leadership it deserves.

If Obama wins, the question will be whether the US will have a chance to recover after filling the Supreme Court with people that make Ginsberg look Conservative, increasing federal funds to ACORN, re-instituting the fairness doctrine, giving power to union bosses not union members, and leading a unilateral demilitarization of US interests around the world.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:37 pm

Have no fear- snuffles is an Obama proctologist wannabe- Brown 29 rimming his nose and lips.

Naturally he nor the other trolls can elighten us as to just what Obama has ever accomplished in his life or admit that Obama’s experience don’t even match up with Palin’s. The affirmative action neophyte will hasten the US on the road to marxist perdition. Buckley may be hopeful that BO will do the right thing and Rick Moran may say BO will be his Poitus and I and many others don’t want to enable the scoundrel and his royal court of America and Whitey haters.
nobama- bend over America

madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:39 pm

Comment by MD in Philly — 10/14/2008 @ 4:37 pm

Doc, thanks for the info. I didn’t know I was picking on a rabbit.

Another Drew (767298) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:41 pm

and another thing…

I denounce myself for being insensitive to lagomorphs.

Another Drew (767298) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:43 pm

If he wins, America will get the leadership it deserves.

Allah help us all …

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:44 pm

I do not know what a lagomorph is, but you are clearly a jingoistic xenhophobic racist.

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:44 pm

Hegemoney, truth to power and, Kyoto.

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:45 pm

JD…you are truly full of it today.
Now, if you could only connect it to some form of reality.

LOL!

Another Drew (767298) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:47 pm

Thanks for the compliment, AD, but I served my time being called “stupid” for not voting the way my oh-so-smart professors and colleagues think I should vote.

Diversity rules! Except when it doesn’t.

Quite so about Will and Noonan. Noonan has written a book “Patriotic Grace” that I believe is born from her worry that partisanship will tear the country apart. I admit things are bad, but my brother reminded me of how the then-MSM treated Lincoln.

People are going to have to say “enough” to the press for a reason that both “D”s and “R”s should agree on: sooner or later, the shoe will be on the other foot. The Left in particular needs to imagine the laws, powers, and “things to ignore” in the hands of the far-Right.

If it is wrong one way, it is wrong the other as well.

Precedents don’t move backward much. And since the press has gone completely in the tank for Obama, the Left needs to consider what will happen in the other direction someday.

For example, if Obama just came out and said that the folks at ACORN should be prosecuted for potentially damaging voting integrity, think how far that we take him in the bipartisan sense that he claims to embrace.

Yeah, out of Chicago. I know.

This comment about a troll:

“I fear you have no understanding of the word “vast,” let alone “majority.””

reminded me of the old adage:

Never begin vast projects with half-vast ideas.

The trolls pretty much overstate everything, yet are exceedingly sensitive to slights in the other direction.

But then, trolls aren’t about accuracy, let alone fairness, are they?

Eric Blair (02cc16) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:52 pm

But then, trolls aren’t about accuracy, let alone fairness, are they?

The recent batch of trolls are all about meme propogation.

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:54 pm

let alone fairness

To be fair, fairness is a really big deal to them when it comes to other people’s tax dollars.

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:55 pm

Comment by Eric Blair — 10/14/2008 @ 4:52 pm

As someone who has spent too much of his life chasing motorsports, we used to say of certain people:

He seems unable to put his brain in gear before engaging his mouth!

Another Drew (767298) — 10/14/2008 @ 4:55 pm

the majority of US voters don’t like Palin but will vote for Obama

You’ve summed up this election rather nicely, MD.

8 years from now, who knows?

snuffles (677ec2) — 10/14/2008 @ 5:19 pm

AD, I’m surprised DRJ didn’t bust you for using the word, lag—-phs.

I think we’re having trouble communicating here, the snuffles I have in mind does not directly (indirectly?) involve lag—-phs.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/14/2008 @ 5:22 pm

snuffles,
selectively quoting a post of mine and twisting it to your ends is very obfuriating and runs the risk of a smack down related to your nickname- I don’t warn, I merely inform

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/14/2008 @ 5:24 pm

far right? what’s that?
it’s been demonized-caricatured so much-it’s lost any meaning…
i know what far left is-
issues -u stalinists-
not slogans!
gerry-mandering has put a crimp in us all
if i name a source-albeit[sp?]/”u don’t agree”/
u brand me far right?
thats ok- i’ll yell rite back..but issues?let’s get it on!
issue one-?

pdbuttons (359493) — 10/14/2008 @ 5:28 pm

Well MD, in three weeks we’ll all get an objective truth to deal with.

I think your prediction is pretty accurate, though.

In any case, we’ll find out soon enough.

snuffles (677ec2) — 10/14/2008 @ 5:30 pm

“snuffles” is an old term for congenital syphilis, so named because of a common nasal deformity caused by the spirochets.

Persistant obfuriation and disingenious lack of reasoning puts one in the “just a blip on the radar screen”, not worth responding to.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/14/2008 @ 5:34 pm

My “reasoning” is that while Palin may charge up the Republican “base” she repulses many more Americans, MD.

A drag on the ticket.

With a different script, she coulda been a contenda.

snuffles (677ec2) — 10/14/2008 @ 5:39 pm

since she was picked, 12 million McCain supporters have turned into Obama supporters.

You need to read a book on argument logic. Pay particular attention to the chapter on post hoc fallacy.

Steverino (db5760) — 10/14/2008 @ 5:48 pm

palin charges up joey 12 packy like no one since ronny
check the crowds!
she’s the ONLY shot mack daddy has-notice the swing?
btw-why so scared? iffn she’s a drag-why’s the bamma lama not closing the deal?
and he’s NOT!
i’ll congrats u on ur victory iffn’ it happens but…u got a whirlwind coming
don’t F#UP-like the rethuggies didtanks/good luck[f#ck u]

pdbuttons (359493) — 10/14/2008 @ 5:50 pm

So Palin says she’s “takeing the gloves off” and starts making calling Obama a terrorist/communist the centerpoint of her campaign. When was that, like two weeks ago?

Here are some poll numbers that just landed today:

National LA Times/Bloomberg Obama 50, McCain 41 Obama +9

National CBS News/NY Times Obama 53, McCain 39 Obama +14

National LA Times/Bloomberg Obama 47, McCain 39, Nader 3, Barr 1 Obama +8

National CBS News/NY Times Obama 51, McCain 39, Nader 3, Barr 1 Obama +12

I point these out not because I think they’re predictive of the election results — they aren’t — but because they’re some nice short-term feedback on the “Obama is a terrorist and a communist; community organizers caused the economic meltdown” strategy Republicans have had lately.

How do you guys like the results of your little smear campaign? Gonna keep it up? As for me,

I’m kinda proud of the swing voters right now, for not buying the bullcrap. I should have had more faith, I guess. It makes me more hopeful that maybe McCain will actually start talking policy again, and forget about Ayers/ACORN.

Phil (3b1633) — 10/14/2008 @ 5:52 pm

I point these out not because I think they’re predictive of the election results — they aren’t

Then don’t bring them up in the first place – you seem to be unable to follow your own advice. Must’ve had too many boilermakers tonight.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/14/2008 @ 6:07 pm

Phil,

So the financial turmoil had no effect on the polls? That’s good to know.

DRJ (c953ab) — 10/14/2008 @ 6:09 pm

So the financial turmoil had no effect on the polls? That’s good to know.

The reason I attribute these numbers to the McCain campaign, rather than the economy, is that the past four days (the period covered by these polls) has been a lot more optimistic than the prior weeks. If the bad economy alone was driving McCain’s polls, you’d expect him to rise. I’ve been anticipating that, as have many Republicans, who are cheering for his “comeback.”

If these new polls are indicative of trends, McCain didn’t get a bounce from the economy lightening up. So what’s holding him down? All the polls agree that voters think McCain is running a very negative campaign, and is erratic.

Worst of all, there;s a consensus that Obama is way stronger on health care. That absolutely should not be. I feel like I’m beating a dead horse here, but voters should be impressed by McCain’s health plan. I keep having people tell me “isn’t McCain going to tax health benefits?” How is the McCain campaign letting the Democrats get away with that?

Phil (3b1633) — 10/14/2008 @ 6:15 pm

and forget about Ayers/ACORN.

Yeah, they should forget all about that angle – this vid’s for you, Phil. Now Wolf Blitzer’s doing stories on ACORN, this time focusing on their hiring of drug addicts and the homeless to do their registrations:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akHchjMNZ-Y

When CNN starts taking a serious interest, you can forget trying to marginalize the issue.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/14/2008 @ 6:15 pm

Phil,

Maybe they won’t make a difference but I think it’s too soon to tell. Some, perhaps many, of the Presidential polls are based on 3-day rolling averages so we may not be seeing those numbers yet.

DRJ (c953ab) — 10/14/2008 @ 6:25 pm

Palin fever is really contagious. It makes the crowd go crazy with some screaming hate-filled words like “terrorist!”, “Kill him!”, “Off with his head!”. Yes she is contagious.

love2008 (1b037c) — 10/14/2008 @ 6:26 pm

Dmac, marginalizing the issue isn’t the point. The point is that there are three weeks left in the campaign. Blitzer’s story or not, is trying to connect Obama to Ayers and ACORN really all Republicans have got?

That’s the best they can do to convince swing voters that McCain is the better candidate? “You should vote for McCain because Obama is a communist and a terrorist and a, uh, community organizer!” Wow, that’s inspiring. Instead of campaigning to elect McCain, you’re campaigning to not elect Obama. Great.

Phil (3b1633) — 10/14/2008 @ 6:29 pm

Phil, its all we got because that’s all the Obama is. That’s the sum of Obama the empty suit.

SPQR (26be8b) — 10/14/2008 @ 6:33 pm

McCain has positive points like his position on earmarks and his strong stand on national defense. But I’m campaigning to elect Palin.

DRJ (c953ab) — 10/14/2008 @ 6:35 pm

It makes the crowd go crazy with some screaming hate-filled words like “terrorist!”, “Kill him!”, “Off with his head!”. Yes she is contagious.

Yes, of course. That’s exactly what happened.

Thank goodness you are around to properly report on things.

steve miller (c9c1fd) — 10/14/2008 @ 6:35 pm

One comment.

If nobody cares that Obama’s ideas for education reform come from a Marxist/anarchist who wants to “do away” with “capitalist education” and follow in the footsteps of Chavez; and that Obama was a trainer for ACORN as well as representing them in litigation intimidation that helped lead
fanny and freddie to collapse, don’t blame Sarah Palin for it.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/14/2008 @ 6:38 pm

you’re campaigning to not elect Obama. Great.

Let’s review the Obama campaign so far:

– don’t elect 4 more years of Bush;
– don’t elect 4 more years of Bush;
– Palin’s a fundie;
– Palin’s a Bimbo;
– Palin’s an over – reaching control freak;
– McCain is in danger of keeling over from age;
– McCain’s in danger of keeling over from cancer;
– BTW, do you want 12 years of Bush?

Yes, that’s quite a positive and uplifting campaign his opponent’s been waging so far – not to mention his hopey and changey screech to “get in their faces” in order to change voter’s minds regarding their candidate.

Now, tell me again how awesomely beatific your Messiah’s been so far in this election cycle.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/14/2008 @ 7:00 pm

Is that even a coherent thought, MD?

You sound like Palin.

And you were attacked my reasoning abilities?

snuffles (677ec2) — 10/14/2008 @ 7:08 pm

My “reasoning” is that while Palin may charge up the Republican “base” she repulses many more Americans, MD

With posts like these, many of us have good cause to question your reasoning abilities.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/14/2008 @ 7:12 pm

You sound like Palin.
Thank you, but my voice is lower.

And you were attacked my reasoning abilities? Comment by snuffles — 10/14/2008 @ 7:08 pm

Too funny. Goodnight.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/14/2008 @ 7:15 pm

Take another shot and reread your post, MD.

At least Palin has an excuse for her many non sequiturs.

snuffles (677ec2) — 10/14/2008 @ 7:21 pm

You’re polluting the gene pool here, SnuffFilm. You’re done.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/14/2008 @ 7:31 pm

Comment by Dmac — 10/14/2008 @ 7:31 pm
More drooling from the droolmaster himself. Insults don’t replace reason. But I know you have nothing more to give. So, drool, baby, drool!

love2008 (0c8c2c) — 10/14/2008 @ 7:54 pm

love2008, more advice you should consider taking before giving.

SPQR (26be8b) — 10/14/2008 @ 8:01 pm

Let me break it down for you, snuff:

You were saying how bad Palin was for the ticket, that Obama was going to win big, in part due to Palin.

My point was that Obama is the candidate least qualified, farthest to the left and the first to approve of infanticide in certain situations, who is also personally embroiled in the fannie and freddy fiasco that he is trying to blame shift onto “Bush’s economic policies”. And if the American people think they want him, they can have him. But there is no blame for Sarah Palin trying to inform the public of what the MSM has refused to.

My repeat formulation was :

If nobody cares that

– Obama’s ideas for education reform come from a Marxist/anarchist who wants to “do away” with “capitalist education” and follow in the footsteps of Chavez;
– and that Obama was a trainer for ACORN
as well as representing them in litigation intimidation
– [and] that helped lead fanny and freddie to collapse,

don’t blame Sarah Palin for it.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/14/2008 @ 8:08 pm

Palin fever is really contagious. It makes the crowd go crazy with some screaming hate-filled words like “terrorist!”, “Kill him!”, “Off with his head!”. Yes she is contagious.

I see that lovie continues to aggressively lie, despite being provided with mountains of evidence that show it is lying.

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 8:17 pm

Behave yourself JD. Adults are talking.

love2008 (1b037c) — 10/14/2008 @ 8:30 pm

MD,

You’ve convinced yourself that it’s in your own interest to believe some baseless Rovian political spew.

Hate your life that much?

snuffles (677ec2) — 10/14/2008 @ 8:33 pm

Hey Doc, just catching up…
Unfortunately, my dictionary, nor Wiki, references the medical condition that is afflicting the “s-man’s” brain, just a mention of rabbit flu.

BTW, where I trained, “blips on a screen” usually resulted in the deployment of lethal force.
Be forewarned.

Another Drew (767298) — 10/14/2008 @ 8:35 pm

Are snuffles, lovie, WankerFelcher, and metacommie the best trolls out there?

lovie – You are not an adult. You are a liar.

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 8:37 pm

Ho hum.
I give a list of demonstrable facts,
I receive some nonsense about a dog named Rover and an amateur attempt at psychoanalysis.

You can prefer Obama to McCain/Palin, but why do you have to make unfounded charges about how Palin is perceived and those who like her? Apparently Obama was impressed and threatened by what he saw at her nomination speech to make him devote “Lawyers, [no guns], and money” to find something to smear her with.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/14/2008 @ 8:43 pm

Poor JD.

love2008 (1b037c) — 10/14/2008 @ 8:45 pm

I am not poor, and I ask not for your pity, lovie. I would request that you conduct yourself with a modicum of integrity, but that is clearly asking too much of you.

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 8:50 pm

This year’s line of Republican talking points aren’t selling very well, MD.

The public isn’t buying them and they’re not even believed by the hacks who dream them up.

You actually believing that crap will lead to four very upsetting years for you.

Be honest, try to understand why McCain/Palin are getting trounced and you’ll sleep better at night.

snuffles (677ec2) — 10/14/2008 @ 8:52 pm

Comment by JD — 10/14/2008 @ 8:50 pm
I would request that you conduct yourself with a modicum of integrity, but that is clearly asking too much of you.

You first JD. I can be reasonable, you know. But take the lead. Show some integrity and truth.

love2008 (1b037c) — 10/14/2008 @ 9:04 pm

I think snuffles is getting at the idea that the public is weary of the incessant bleating from the media about how horrible President Bush and anyone with an R behind their name is. Therefore, they are willing to let a vapid empty suit with high flying rhetoric, no spine, no record, and no experience to lead them.

lovie – I have tried with you before. noyk tried with you today. You do not enter in good faith, and your actions today have not disabused me of that notion.

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 9:09 pm

Palin fever is really contagious. It makes the crowd go crazy with some screaming hate-filled words like “terrorist!”, “Kill him!”, “Off with his head!”. Yes she is contagious.

When you admit that this is an overt lie, maybe we can talk.

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 9:12 pm

Comment by JD — 10/14/2008 @ 9:12 pm
Prove anything I said there to be untrue. Saying something is a lie, no matter how many times, does not make it a lie. Sarah Palin has incited folks in her rallies to say hate-ful stuff about Obama and others. Denying that is lacking in integrity. But that is your manner, isn’t it?

love2008 (1b037c) — 10/14/2008 @ 9:22 pm

Prove anything I said there to be untrue.

Have simple rules of logic been inverted? Traditionally, when someone makes a point, or in your case, a lie, they have to substantiate the point. The onus is not on the listener to disprove the point.

You stated, as a fact, that

Palin fever is really contagious. It makes the crowd go crazy with some screaming hate-filled words like “terrorist!”, “Kill him!”, “Off with his head!”. Yes she is contagious.

There is no evidence that anyone yelled terrorist in referring to Barack Obama. No evidence that anyone yelled kill him in reference to Barack Obama. Certainly no evidence that any said off with his head about Teh Messiah.

Sarah Palin has incited folks in her rallies to say hate-ful stuff about Obama and others

This is the new leftist canard. I will give you credit, you come across as sincere. However, in order to do so, you must first overlook the likes of “let’s stone her, old school”, “Abort Palin”, and the endless list of things our sitting President has endured. Your faux concern about civility gives way once you start making up lies about your political opponents.

JD (f7900a) — 10/14/2008 @ 9:28 pm

What Washington, oh hell the entire country, needs in the worst way is an infusion of “Common Sense”.

Plain speaking folks that will indeed call a snake a snake, diamond back or coral or just another water snake. Still a snake.

Sara probably is NOT an “intellectual”, but neither is most of what we call the members of congress. They are all, for the most part, generalists. They learn as they go, which is what they should be doing, the world today is rather complex and NOBODY arrives with credentials for the job! NOBODY! All of them must depend upon the bcrats and personal research for some sense of their jobs.

Truman was but a total KS hick when the presidency was thrust upon him. Seems he did ok with the new challenges that faced him. He did not apply intellectuals for advise, directly, but used his common sense, which is very uncommon today to locate, as his ultimate decision making. He also did listen to all along the way.

Sara is not a fool, and really do not think she is foolish either. She is also NOT afraid to ask questions of those that should know whats what. Sorta like she did with the librarian about how books are indeed banished from the kingdom.

Yet today she is chastised for asking a question? I do not know about you, but I’ve learned little in life about a whole bunch of topics without posing a question to somebody that was much more involved with a subject than I.

Remember the only stupid question is the one not asked?! I sure do.

I’m not afraid of Sara, actually I’m more afraid of McCain, but REALITY 101, it’s still in the lap of CONGRESS, not who happens to be pres at the time.

It is the congressional races the msm should be focusing upon, fark the pres race, outside of SCOUTS recommends, the POTUS is but a figure head!

Seems that Sara don’t care what side of any aisle you are on today, if you are wrong and doing wrong, then git out! COMMON SENSE, something we all seem to ask for, but such is never displayed in public. Common Sense seemingly is not Politically Correct.

TC (0b9ca4) — 10/15/2008 @ 2:50 am

Palin fever is really contagious. It makes the crowd go crazy [emphasis added] with some screaming hate-filled words like “terrorist!”, “Kill him!”, “Off with his head!”. Yes she is contagious.
Comment by love2008 — 10/14/2008 @ 6:26 pm

After all the extensive discussion that happened over the weekend on this precise point (a lone individual vs. tens of thousands of people who are not supporting him), love2008, you know this to be a false statement.

That means you told a lie, love2008.

Thank you for making your honesty level so unambiguously and inescapably clear.

no one you know (1ebbb1) — 10/15/2008 @ 5:02 am

It is like I am Kreskin, or something. Nostradamus, perhaps.

JD (f7900a) — 10/15/2008 @ 6:48 am

The Bobo knows nothing except lies, because children at the Chuck E. Cheese like to whisper in it’s ear during pizza breaks from the hobby horsies.

So, drool, baby, drool!

Uh, oh; I always lived in fear that this would happen – The Bobo’s apparently coming on to me.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/15/2008 @ 7:31 am

Dmac – EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

JD (f7900a) — 10/15/2008 @ 7:37 am

Sarah Palin is, in fact, so awesome, she has Teh Power to make a man/Obama plant/crazy person (take your pick) shout a terrible thing from miles away before she even gets to a rally:

behold the power of Sarah Palin

no one you know (1f5ddb) — 10/15/2008 @ 7:38 am

One word, Dmac.

Latex.

Many, many layers.

Seriously, just send the troll’s name to Our Mr. Sullivan. It’s a better match.

Eric Blair (02cc16) — 10/15/2008 @ 7:38 am

no one you know – Heaven forfuckingbid that they let the facts get in the way of Teh Narrative. Notice how that little “one man yelled kill him” has already become accepted as a fact beyond dispute by the media. No sourcing. No documentation. No audio. No video. No names. Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada.

JD (f7900a) — 10/15/2008 @ 7:47 am

Seriously, just send the troll’s name to Our Mr. Sullivan. It’s a better match.

Double eeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Maybe Andy and lovie could get to the bottom of Trig’s medical records.

JD (f7900a) — 10/15/2008 @ 7:47 am

Comment by JD — 10/15/2008 @ 7:47 am

That’s true. And am intrigued at the impeccable timing of the newly discovered shout. No evidence (ie audio, video–HOW many cameras and mics do they have at these rallies? ONE of them must have caught it) that the shout was made (not with the other one either–we took a liberal journalist’s word, Milbank, that one man called for the death of Bill Ayers).

This makes me suspect an Obama plant. But it could well be a crazy person. The point is that no one is supporting him.

And if I were in a crowd next to a person like that and a journalist or Secret Service person called “WHO SAID THAT?” I’d point to the person.

This makes me doubt the account. But it could have happened.

Video or audio would be nice in future.

no one you know (1f5ddb) — 10/15/2008 @ 7:55 am

no one you know – Given that the spurious claim was followed by the “journalist” ratlling off a list of Baracky talking points and the MSM narrative, it strikes me as far too convenient that the only person at the entire freaking event that heard this was the reporter.

I am going to listen closely on Friday for death threats.

JD (f7900a) — 10/15/2008 @ 7:59 am

Comment by JD — 10/14/2008 @ 9:28 pm

There is no evidence that anyone yelled terrorist in referring to Barack Obama. No evidence that anyone yelled kill him in reference to Barack Obama. Certainly no evidence that any said off with his head about Teh Messiah
Liar! Lying won’t save you.
How can you just sit down there and lie about something widely reported and known everywhere?

love2008 (0c8c2c) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:06 am

The hubris of the left assumes bubble proportions. God help the Constitution if Obama wins.

Someone above mentioned Christopher Buckley above. I thought this was interesting.

It may strike some conservatives today as odd, if not absurd, to see John McCain being subjected to an auto-da-fé conducted by such Torquemadas of the right as Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity. The other day, he even endured jeers at a conservative gathering in Washington, by otherwise well-behaved exemplars of conservatism. Indeed, turn on the TV at any hour of the day and you’ll find Mr. McCain being excoriated in harsher terms than he endured from his jailers at the Hanoi Hilton — variously denounced as a) not conservative, b) really, really not conservative, or even c) so not-conservative as to make you wonder if he isn’t just the latest re-issue of the Manchurian Candidate.

In response, let me offer a thoughtful, considered, carefully worded comment: Would you all please just…shut…up? (I’d insert an intensifier, but this is a family newspaper.)

Let’s all breathe into a brown paper bag and calm down and consider the question: Is John McCain a small-c or large-C conservative? (Odd that his surname should contain both.) Or is he not a conservative at all?

There’s more:

And yet the sum of Mr. McCain seems (to me, anyway) far greater than the parts. How many elections offer such an inspired biography as his? And who among “us” — with the exception of Senator Thad Cochran of Mississippi, who issued a statement saying that the thought of Mr. McCain in the Oval Office sent “chills up my spine” — would not sleep soundly knowing that the war hero was on the job calculating how to dispatch more Islamic fanatics to their rendezvous with 72 virgins, without an interlude of waterboarding, while in his spare time vetoing Senator Cochran’s latest earmark.

The author ?

Obama’s new friend Christopher Buckley.

We are on our own, fellow “Wal Mart Republicans.” The “Conservative” establishment has lost its collective (pun intended) mind.

Mike K (2cf494) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:06 am

Lovie – You have repeated that about 20 times now. Your version has been debunked at least that many times. Liar.

JD (f7900a) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:10 am

Liar! Lying won’t save you.
How can you just sit down there and lie about something widely reported and known everywhere?

The creepy trolls are beside themselves. This makes me wonder even more about the polls. They would not be this delusional unless they sensed the earth shifting under their candidates’ feet.

Wiley says the Secret Service did not begin looking into the matter until press reports, namely Dana Milbank’s article in the Washington Post, surfaced today, because no agents at the event heard anything. “The Secret Service did not hear any threatening statements directed at targets under its protection and no threatening statements were reported to us by law enforcement or citizens at the event,“

Mike K (2cf494) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:10 am

Many, many layers.

Not to mention a paper bag for the Bobo’s head, a Hefty Trash bag for everything else, some Clorox, and a veritable cornucopia of antibiotics. And…ah, the hell with it, let Mr. Man – Glutes handle it.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:12 am

Mike K – In lovie’s world, accepting arguendo that there was a single solitary voice calling out “terrorist” or “kill him” in reference to BILL AYERS, not Baracky, doing so in reference to BILL AYERS is easily conflated into doing so about Baracky, even though there is no substantive relationship between the two.

JD (f7900a) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:14 am

Comment by no one you know — 10/15/2008 @ 5:02 am After all the extensive discussion that happened over the weekend on this precise point (a lone individual vs. tens of thousands of people who are not supporting him), love2008, you know this to be a false statement.

That means you told a lie, love2008

You are beginning to annoy me noyk. Even you ought to know better. Stop defending lies. I have not called you a liar here. But you have called me that a number of times. Won’t like to go that way with you. So, back off! But if you insist on going that way, bring it on!

love2008 (0c8c2c) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:17 am

Everyone already brung it, lovie. You just ignored everything, so you could continue to run with the meme for Teh Chosen One.

JD (f7900a) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:20 am

The abandonment of logic and reason by the Obama people, including Buckley, is illustrated by this statement today:

“I do not like McCain, but it would be a betrayal of my principles to vote
for Obama.”

This is a few months after he told conservatives opposed to McCain to “shut up.” He is a spoiled boy who has not much time left to grow up. But then, so is Obama.

Mike K (2cf494) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:20 am

They would not be this delusional unless they sensed the earth shifting under their candidates’ feet.

The level of vitriolic hate they spew is in direct proportion to their sense that their candidate’s in serious trouble. Let’s check off the points here: an alleged death threat made against Obama, a Dem. Congressman (Lewis) making allusions to McCain as “another George Wallace,” and their shrill equating of any criticism of Obama as “racially motivated.” These are not the confident assertions of voters who think their candidate’s in a comfortable lead.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:21 am

#96 Mike. That just proves the Secret Service is in on it too. They too have been bewitched by Palin.

ROA (9f9e47) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:33 am

Won’t like to go that way with you.

The Bobo’s now coming on to other people here – be forewarned, it’s liable to engage in desperate actions in order to procreate.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:37 am

Dmac – It was trying to hump your leg earlier. Good that you were able to avoid getting a mess on you.

JD (f7900a) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:40 am

You are beginning to annoy me noyk. Even you ought to know better. Stop defending lies. I have not called you a liar here. But you have called me that a number of times. Won’t like to go that way with you. So, back off! But if you insist on going that way, bring it on!

Comment by love2008 — 10/15/2008 @ 8:17 am

love2008,

You said here:

(see your comments 110 and 137 in this thread)

http://www.patterico.com/2008/10/08/barack-obama-his-membership-in-the-new-party-and-his-connections-to-socialists/

I never intended for any one to think it happened that way. I never meant to mis-state the issue. Maybe I did not make that clear at first. My fault.

I told you yesterday I assumed, based on your own statements, that your “misstating the issue” about this was unintentional. You said this after a long discussion in the attached thread about it.

Then today you misstate the issue in exactly, precisely, the same way.

This is no longer unintentional and I stand by my statement that you made a statement that you knew to be false and misleading.

I am sorry that you are annoyed that, in the interest of having conservatives accurately represented, I pointed that out, but your being annoyed is not my responsibility. Perhaps you could avoid such false statements in the future and save yourself the annoyance.

no one you know (1f5ddb) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:40 am

You lie when you say that Sarah Palin has not made inflammatory remarks about Obama that has led to certain individuals in her rally shouting words like ” Terrorist!”, “Off with his head!”, “Kill him!”. To sit there and try to spin something that happened because it makes your candidate look bad tells me just how desperate and mendacious and deceived you have become. If things were not getting out of hand, why was there a public outcry, even from some Republicans that McCain should control it? Why did he feel the need to correct that woman that called Obama an “Arab”? Why has his campaign dropped the negativity recently? Because it was getting ugly and also because it was not affecting the polls. If anything, it has worsened his situation. I know you don’t like admitting when you lie, it’s a habit your party has formed. That is why they have lost public trust and come Nov, they will be kicked out of office!

love2008 (0c8c2c) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:50 am

You lie when you say that Sarah Palin has not made inflammatory remarks about Obama that has led to certain individuals in her rally shouting words like ” Terrorist!”, “Off with his head!”, “Kill him!”.

BBBBBBBBBZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTT – Assuming arguendo that the above occurred, they were directed at statements about BILL AYERS, not Baracky.

Why did he feel the need to correct that woman that called Obama an “Arab”?

I know facts are really inconvenient, but this is another distortion, and an avoidance of the actual fact that Barack is of some Arab descent.

The fact is that you lie, get called on the lie, run away from your lie, and then after a while, repeat your lies. It is an endless feedback loop with him.

Abort Palin
Let’s stone her, old school
Palin is a C*nt

JD (f7900a) — 10/15/2008 @ 8:54 am

You lie when you say that Sarah Palin has not made inflammatory remarks about Obama that has led to certain individuals in her rally shouting words like ” Terrorist!”, “Off with his head!”, “Kill him!”.
Comment by love2008 — 10/15/2008 @ 8:50 am

Not true.
–“Off with his head” was a probable [terribly phrased] JOKE (your own link said it was about a tax plan)
–we took a liberal’s word (Milbank) that one person in a crowd of like tens of thousands yelled “kill him!” about Bill Ayers, with no support from the crowd,
—your own link (see your comment at 8:06, above) says it’s not even known that the shout was “kill” or “him” or who it was about:

[from love2008’s own link at a liberal website]
“The Secret Service did not hear any threatening statements directed at targets under its protection and no threatening statements were reported to us by law enforcement or citizens at the event,” Wiley told Radar. Also unclear: whether the remark was directed at Obama or Ayers if the words were actually “kill” and “him.”

–there is indeed no evidence that anyone shouted “terrorist” about Obama at a rally.

Sarah Palin is telling the truth about Obama having noncasual and longterm professional relationships with unrepentant terrorists.

If whole crowds were calling for the death of ANYONE then you would have a point. But they aren’t, and you have falsely implied several times now that they are.

But she is not responsible for either individual Obama plants, or for individual crazy and/or criminal people.

no one you know (1f5ddb) — 10/15/2008 @ 9:03 am

Comment by JD — 10/15/2008 @ 8:54 am

Someone has actually called you a liar in some other thread. I felt it was a little harsh then. But now, I see why.

love2008 (0c8c2c) — 10/15/2008 @ 9:03 am

Lovie – Connect the dots for us. Prove what you say is true. The evidence points the other direction.

daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 10/15/2008 @ 9:13 am

love2008,

I’ve answered your point, and now want to get back to my own:
I don’t understand why you falsely implied again today that “crowds” call for the deaths of anyone, when you have been shown beyond any argument that this is false, and slanderous toward not only Palin (whom you’ve accused of making it happen) but conservative crowds in general?

This is a question of fact, not opinion, BTW. Either “crowds” did it or they didn’t.

no one you know (1f5ddb) — 10/15/2008 @ 9:16 am

lovie – Let me be really clear. I care not one iota what your opinion of me is. You have demonstrated, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you do not enter into any discussion in good faith, and have no compunction about bastardizing the truth to advance Teh Narrative in service of Teh One.

JD (f7900a) — 10/15/2008 @ 9:17 am

#You lie when you say that Sarah Palin has not made inflammatory remarks about Obama that has led to certain individuals in her rally shouting words like ” Terrorist!”, “Off with his head!”, “Kill him!”.

Comment by love2008 — 10/15/2008 @ 8:50 am

First, you’ll have to link to the audio of this being said. Indicate the time where you think it occurs. Then convince us that Sarah Palin actually heard it and the person who said it was within range of the microphone picking it up AND Sarah Palin. Please keep in mind inverse square theory and Fletcher Munson curves with regard to distance of speaker to her ears. Perhaps she hadn’t cast her “Super Hearing” spell because Todd was carrying their “stash” of “manna.”

Second, you’ll have to prove that the person who said it, was led to say it by Sarah Palin. Yes, you’ll have to prove that the “kill him” comment reported yesterday that was made a half-hour before Sarah Palin was even present was provoked by her…I dunno…mind ray. Please limit your proof to using the expertise of Gandalf, Saruman and the other Istari.

Third, you’ll have to prove that the person who said it was a McCain/Palin supporter rather than an Obama operative/media member (one in the same).

Fourth, you’ll have to ignore the numerous horrible things said about McCain/Palin/Republicans in general. Oh wait, you already have!

It’s fine if you “feel” your narrative is true. If you’re goal is to enter it into public record as “fact”, you have a metric shitton of proof ahead of you.

Contrast that with us who have reams of pictures, videos and audio clips of people saying horrible things about McCain/Palin.

Bless your heart.

CW Desiato (614aa7) — 10/15/2008 @ 9:28 am

Comment by JD — 10/15/2008 @ 9:17 am

JD, I disagree. You have to care what people think about your lying habit. You need to do something about it before it gets out of hand. And do something about that rage, too. Reminiscent of a recent political rally, don’t you think?

love2008 (0c8c2c) — 10/15/2008 @ 10:17 am

And do something about that rage, too. Reminiscent of a recent political rally, don’t you think?

Comment by love2008 — 10/15/2008 @ 10:17 am

Interesting comment. Similar in what respect? Please be specific. Thanks.

no one you know (1f5ddb) — 10/15/2008 @ 10:21 am

And while you’re at it, love2008, I’d appreciate a response to my question at 9:16 am, please. Thanks.

no one you know (1f5ddb) — 10/15/2008 @ 10:24 am

The thought occurred to me, why are the Obama folk, trolls and MSM alike, trying to point out that Palin going directly at Ayers, etc., “Isn’t working, is backfiring”?

Do they believe it and are gloating, they just can’t contain themselves to laugh last? Or are they afraid that if the truth is told often enough people will eventually catch on, having previously believed the oft-told lie?

Whichever doesn’t make much difference, because we are going directly to the people, not through the MSM (to paraphrase), doing what we think is right, not just expedient.

It is said that when the True Messiah comes, He will laugh at those who rage against Him, knowing that all protest and opposition to final justice will be less than meaningless.

Prager had a nice monologue on his first hour today on how one unsubstantiated report in the MSM gets magnified as the basis of a lie that gets cross-referenced over and over until it is taken as truth. While the technology of today should make it easier to confront such inaccuracy, unfortunately it also hastens the spread of such untruth.

AD- missed your post last night in cross-posting.
Unfortunately, not all wisdom of the pre-computer generations has made it onto the Internet, such as the use of “snuffles” in medical terminology of yore.

BTW, where I trained, “blips on a screen” usually resulted in the deployment of lethal force.-
Thanks for the heads-up. I took it from Patterico. The intended meaning was something so small on the radar screen of life such as not to be concerned with. So we’re even, blips for snuffles.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/15/2008 @ 10:36 am

CW, did you note the dignity and voracity of the response TR* gave to your post?

I didn’t think so.

I again request to all that we start a “Troll Responders Anonymous” group. We do have better things to do, like make phone calls for the McCain/Palin campaign.

*TR=love2008, from Tokyo Rose, the voice of discouraging propaganda from WWII.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/15/2008 @ 10:43 am

“inflammatory remarks about Obama“

Obama’s inflammatory remarks are for the AGES. ‘Bitter clingy people’ who need ‘guns and religion’ and ‘reject other cultures out of fear.’ (WTF; America is a melting pot.) Oh, and ‘ typical white person.’ Bill Clinton – – a racist.

You clean up your own party before you start inventing lies to fit your agenda. Remember, Teh One is promoting unity. See what you can do to help.

Vermont Neighbor (c91cfe) — 10/15/2008 @ 10:44 am

#CW, did you note the dignity and voracity of the response TR* gave to your post?

I didn’t think so.

Well, my attack was fairly “withering.”

I again request to all that we start a “Troll Responders Anonymous” group. We do have better things to do, like make phone calls for the McCain/Palin campaign.

*TR=love2008, from Tokyo Rose, the voice of discouraging propaganda from WWII.

Comment by MD in Philly — 10/15/2008 @ 10:43 am

Agreed. How about:

Smarmy
Hubris
Intervention
Team

CW Desiato (614aa7) — 10/15/2008 @ 10:51 am

And do something about that rage, too.

The Bobo is well – known for projecting the multitude of character flaws it possesses onto others. It tends to be self – centered, bitter, rageful and quite clingy at times.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/15/2008 @ 10:52 am

It tends to be self – centered, bitter, rageful and quite clingy at times.

The clingy pops up when said Bobo needs a favor, so it’s particularly brown-nosey and gratuitous.

Vermont Neighbor (c91cfe) — 10/15/2008 @ 10:56 am

…and also tends to use smiley emoticons within it’s pleas for help.

This may explain the Bobo’s ragey behavior today:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111172/Gallup-Daily-Before-Final-Debate-Obama-Leads.aspx

Ruh – roh; I smell panic among the disciples.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/15/2008 @ 11:03 am

Say it to my face, cowards. Go on. Look me in the eye and say it.

love2008 (1b037c) — 10/15/2008 @ 1:47 pm

Tell me what to say . . . and tell me where you are . . . and I’m there

Icy Truth (1468e4) — 10/15/2008 @ 1:55 pm

Say it to my face, cowards. Go on. Look me in the eye and say it.

Comment by love2008 — 10/15/2008 @ 1:47 pm

Look you in the eye and say…
what?

What I’d like to say (again) is simply, please explain why you implied again today that crowds were shouting this stuff when it was clear that isolated individuals were shouting it in crowds of tens of thousands, with no support from the crowd.

That’s all.

Thanks.

no one you know (1f5ddb) — 10/15/2008 @ 2:12 pm

Say it to my face, cowards.

The Bobo continues it’s dissolution via a nonsensical posting that sounds threatening, but at the same time is also quite incoherent.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/15/2008 @ 2:53 pm

Say it to my face, cowards.

The Bobo continues it’s rapid dissolution via a post that is somewhat threatening, but also incoherent at the same time.

Dmac (cc81d9) — 10/15/2008 @ 2:54 pm

Love is doing a grand parody of Teh Fading One. He yells, ‘say it to my face!’

But, taking 2 days to avoid noyk’s question? Ignoring other questions since yesterday as well? Shame, little comrade. What will you do when the Truth Squad lands on your door step? Just embrace it now. Drink it in. Be at one with the rainbow world of unicorns and unity. It’s for those who believe.

Obamarx ’08

Vermont Neighbor (c91cfe) — 10/15/2008 @ 7:35 pm

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