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	<title>Comments on: The Power of the Jump™: Sarah Palin&#8217;s &#8220;Road to Nowhere&#8221; Actually Might Be a Road to a Ferry</title>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is no evidence Palin told Congress what she said she did.&quot;

Bradley - Grow a pair and stop looking for literalism.  Does she have to say the exact words on the floor of Congess to satisfy your infantilism on these issues?

You&#039;ve turned into a freaking Koz Kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no evidence Palin told Congress what she said she did.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bradley &#8211; Grow a pair and stop looking for literalism.  Does she have to say the exact words on the floor of Congess to satisfy your infantilism on these issues?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve turned into a freaking Koz Kid.</p>
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		<title>By: Icy Truth</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/09/19/the-power-of-the-jump%e2%84%a2-sarah-palins-road-to-nowhere-actually-might-be-a-road-to-a-ferry/comment-page-4/#comment-394167</link>
		<dc:creator>Icy Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that &quot;personally vilified&quot; comment is in reference to what others said, and not me. I don&#039;t know what you&#039;re complaining about, anyway. You became the big star of this thread yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that &#8220;personally vilified&#8221; comment is in reference to what others said, and not me. I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re complaining about, anyway. You became the big star of this thread yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley J. Fikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradley J. Fikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daleyrocks,
There is no evidence Palin told Congress what she said she did. And Palin&#039;s press release about killing the Gravina Island bridge contradicts what she claimed to have said. It&#039;s that simple.

People here have made all sorts of ingenious  contortions to gloss over that contradiction. But if their arguments are right, Palin&#039;s press release has to be wrong. 

And when I ask them for evidence that Palin actually told Congress what she said she did, I am personally vilified. It&#039;s increasingly reminding me of my brief, unpleasant foray into Sadly, No!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daleyrocks,<br />
There is no evidence Palin told Congress what she said she did. And Palin&#8217;s press release about killing the Gravina Island bridge contradicts what she claimed to have said. It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
<p>People here have made all sorts of ingenious  contortions to gloss over that contradiction. But if their arguments are right, Palin&#8217;s press release has to be wrong. </p>
<p>And when I ask them for evidence that Palin actually told Congress what she said she did, I am personally vilified. It&#8217;s increasingly reminding me of my brief, unpleasant foray into Sadly, No!</p>
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		<title>By: Slartibartfast</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/09/19/the-power-of-the-jump%e2%84%a2-sarah-palins-road-to-nowhere-actually-might-be-a-road-to-a-ferry/comment-page-4/#comment-394155</link>
		<dc:creator>Slartibartfast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;with a nice dose of book-banning christianism thrown in&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have a certain appreciation for people&#039;s complaints about campaign-trail lies until I see things like this.  It&#039;s not just the candidates doing the lying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>with a nice dose of book-banning christianism thrown in</p></blockquote>
<p>I have a certain appreciation for people&#8217;s complaints about campaign-trail lies until I see things like this.  It&#8217;s not just the candidates doing the lying.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Drew</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/09/19/the-power-of-the-jump%e2%84%a2-sarah-palins-road-to-nowhere-actually-might-be-a-road-to-a-ferry/comment-page-4/#comment-394067</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 04:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh, he seems just a bit obsessive on this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh, he seems just a bit obsessive on this!</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/09/19/the-power-of-the-jump%e2%84%a2-sarah-palins-road-to-nowhere-actually-might-be-a-road-to-a-ferry/comment-page-4/#comment-394062</link>
		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 04:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AD - What troubles me about Bradley&#039;s approach to Palin is he seems willing to believe the worst without investigation, whether it was on the original Bridge to Nowhere story, this story and others.  That&#039;s not the objective approach he claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AD &#8211; What troubles me about Bradley&#8217;s approach to Palin is he seems willing to believe the worst without investigation, whether it was on the original Bridge to Nowhere story, this story and others.  That&#8217;s not the objective approach he claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daley...
I know you&#039;re right about the bridge funds proper, but I don&#039;t think we have all of the info on the road project funds; ie, were they general-funding, or a specific earmark.

The most important change IIHO that we could get through Congress, would be to have the Budget, and all Appropriations bills posted on-line where everyone could see what is in them (redactions for Black Projects, and perhaps for the entire National Intelligence funding, too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daley&#8230;<br />
I know you&#8217;re right about the bridge funds proper, but I don&#8217;t think we have all of the info on the road project funds; ie, were they general-funding, or a specific earmark.</p>
<p>The most important change IIHO that we could get through Congress, would be to have the Budget, and all Appropriations bills posted on-line where everyone could see what is in them (redactions for Black Projects, and perhaps for the entire National Intelligence funding, too).</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/09/19/the-power-of-the-jump%e2%84%a2-sarah-palins-road-to-nowhere-actually-might-be-a-road-to-a-ferry/comment-page-4/#comment-394039</link>
		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the earmarked funds had not been used for a Gravina Island Bridge-related purpose, this money would have been returned to the feds.&quot;

belloscm- There was no specific fed earmark for the bridge.  The funds were available for Alaska to use as hey wished for transpotation projects.  You may want to check your facts on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the earmarked funds had not been used for a Gravina Island Bridge-related purpose, this money would have been returned to the feds.&#8221;</p>
<p>belloscm- There was no specific fed earmark for the bridge.  The funds were available for Alaska to use as hey wished for transpotation projects.  You may want to check your facts on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Apogee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apogee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Drew has a great point in #150, in that, the costs maintaining a jet like the one Palin had sold approximates 1700.00 per flight hour.

Over a three Month period during Murkowski&#039;s Governorship, the jet racked up 195 hours of time, most of it flying &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/031206/sta_20060311055.shtml&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;prisoners.&lt;/a&gt;

Thats 195 x 1700 = 331,500.00.  For &lt;i&gt;three months&lt;/i&gt;.

The profit or loss of the jet purchase price and resale pales, like cell phones, in comparison with the airtime costs to actually use them.

I would say that Palin has saved Alaska some serious cash, and that McCain&#039;s profit statement is closer to the truth than not.

As for Bradley J. Fikes, he argues intelligently, cites evidence, and conducts his arguments in a civil manner.  That is what Patterico.com needs, and which is why I agree with Dmac that calling him a douchebag was completely out of line.  I don&#039;t have to agree with someone to respect how they conduct themselves.  I would rather disagree with a Bradley J. Fikes than agree with a Levi or JAR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Drew has a great point in #150, in that, the costs maintaining a jet like the one Palin had sold approximates 1700.00 per flight hour.</p>
<p>Over a three Month period during Murkowski&#8217;s Governorship, the jet racked up 195 hours of time, most of it flying <a href="http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/031206/sta_20060311055.shtml" title="" rel="nofollow">prisoners.</a></p>
<p>Thats 195 x 1700 = 331,500.00.  For <i>three months</i>.</p>
<p>The profit or loss of the jet purchase price and resale pales, like cell phones, in comparison with the airtime costs to actually use them.</p>
<p>I would say that Palin has saved Alaska some serious cash, and that McCain&#8217;s profit statement is closer to the truth than not.</p>
<p>As for Bradley J. Fikes, he argues intelligently, cites evidence, and conducts his arguments in a civil manner.  That is what Patterico.com needs, and which is why I agree with Dmac that calling him a douchebag was completely out of line.  I don&#8217;t have to agree with someone to respect how they conduct themselves.  I would rather disagree with a Bradley J. Fikes than agree with a Levi or JAR.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bradley has seriously jumped the shark on Palin-McCain. He had another post today attacking McCain&#039;s economic knowledge when McCain has been almost singlehandedly warning about Fannie Mae for years. He even co-sponsored a bill with Dick Gephardt in 2002. Remember that stuff about bipartisanship ?

Bradley is probably Bob Barr&#039;s only supporter in the press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bradley has seriously jumped the shark on Palin-McCain. He had another post today attacking McCain&#8217;s economic knowledge when McCain has been almost singlehandedly warning about Fannie Mae for years. He even co-sponsored a bill with Dick Gephardt in 2002. Remember that stuff about bipartisanship ?</p>
<p>Bradley is probably Bob Barr&#8217;s only supporter in the press.</p>
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