New York Times Complaints About Palin Were All Based on Distortions
The New York Times complained the other day:
The interviews made clear why Americans should worry about Ms. Palin’s thin résumé and lack of experience. Consider her befuddlement when Mr. Gibson referred to President Bush’s “doctrine” and her remark about having insight into Russia because she can see it from her state.
. . . .
Her answers about why she had told her church that President Bush’s failed policy in Iraq was “God’s plan” did nothing to dispel our concerns about her confusion between faith and policy. Her claim that she was quoting a completely unrelated comment by Lincoln was absurd.
Well, let’s see. It turned out that the Bush Doctrine was multifaceted — something Gibson didn’t understand. And it turned out that Palin’s comments about seeing Russia from Alaska were edited severely, causing the comment to sound bizarre, when it makes sense in context. And she hadn’t “told” her church that Iraq was “God’s plan” but rather prayed that it is.
Strike three, New York Times editors. You’re out!
Do they have anything not predicated on a distortion or a lie? Bueller? Bueller?
Leftists, of course, are sure Palin didn’t know the intricacies of the Bush Doctrine as well as Charlie Gibson. After all, he was looking at her over his glasses. Doesn’t that mean he’s smarter? Plus — though we can’t say this part out loud because it makes us seem sexist — but he is a man, after all . . . and she’s not.
It reminds me of the brouhaha over her comment that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are costing the taxpayers money: well, she was right . . . but surely she didn’t know she was right. What with her being a woman and a former beauty queen and all.
Amazing how she keeps getting lucky on the facts, isn’t it? All these smart men keep criticizing her for botching things, and the ditzy beauty queen gets proved right, time and time again. All by luck, I’m sure.
Well, we have more interviews yet to come. Let’s see if they can lay a glove on her without hitting below the belt.
Though so far, hitting Sarah Palin below the belt hasn’t seemed to hurt her much. Odd, that.
From what I can tell, Sarah Palin is just like Barack Obama: almost everyone on both sides of the aisle is seeing what they want to see rather than seeing what is actually there.
It makes me wonder to what degree that’s true of other political candidates, as well.
aphrael (9e8ccd) — 9/14/2008 @ 10:15 amFeminine intuition.
Kevin Murphy (0b2493) — 9/14/2008 @ 10:38 amaphrael….we don’t get to see what is actually there with Obama….
The media won’t ask the questions….
Obama tries to block the research into his story….
I understand your point, that the hardliners on both sides will not open their eyes to what is real….
But, someone like me, who hates abortion but does not support a ban….who will pay taxes because of my income but wants to see taxes and spending cut….who is more than willing to accept welfare but wants to see people get off, and not get free money from the government because they choose not to work themselves for more income…..
I want to see it all…..and I get no help from anywhere…..
reff (4ab894) — 9/14/2008 @ 10:40 amIt’s not because he’s a man, it’s because she’s a conservative. It’s a Liberal Fact(tm) that no Conservative has an IQ over 120, and most are dumber than a bag of rocks.
Take that idiot Reagan, for example. Plain dumb luck that inflation stopped, the economy boomed and the Soviet Union collapsed. And besides was really Bush 41 who was President when the USSR went down, anyway — nothing to do with Reagan, really.
Kevin Murphy (0b2493) — 9/14/2008 @ 10:47 amDoes Palin believe that to salvage Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid we need to “find efficiencies” – or was that a trick question with an edited answer?
steve (8eb8f2) — 9/14/2008 @ 10:50 amWomen, they give birth and patiently answer children’s questions.
This is about the “ruling class” being challenged. She is not trained to be a ruler … and a President is supposed to govern, not rule. Shocking.
htom (412a17) — 9/14/2008 @ 10:51 amRon Paul seemed to understand the Bush doctrine and it is not “multi-faceted” at all:
GIBSON: Congressman Paul, let me ask you, do you agree with the Bush doctrine, or would you change it?
Psyberian (9f6817) — 9/14/2008 @ 11:14 amCONG. RON PAUL, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The Bush doctrine of preemptive war is not a minor change; this is huge. This is the first time we, as a nation, accept as our policy that we start the wars. I don’t understand this.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/14/bush_doctrine/index.html
Oh, man, that’s hilarious.
Yet another link to Rick Ellersberg on this blog.
Talk about clueless.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 11:18 amSocial Security will be “saved” by letting younger contributors have private accounts. Bush tried it and was savaged but he gave up. It needs to be done. My 43-year-old son will vote for Obama, I assume, but does not believe he will see a penny of SS when he is 65. What can change that ?
Medicare and Medicaid have to be reformed and one way to do that is to roll them into a national health plan that is based on contributing for those who are working. I have already explained how I think it should work.
What Obama is proposing will NOT work. Hillary had it right. It has to be mandatory or the free riders, many of whom post on left wing blogs, will still screw up the system. McCain will not adopt this reform, most likely, because it is a generational thing. Sarah probably will, when it is her turn to be president. 2012, I would say.
Mike K (2cf494) — 9/14/2008 @ 11:18 amwhaw, waaasaa…. Palin’s Alaska popularity dropping like a stone in Anchorage’s mudflats.
Now, closing to less than 50 percent. Most of Alaska’s dailies are going against for her lying about the Bridge to Nowhere she supported as Governor.
datadave (eb12a5) — 9/14/2008 @ 11:24 amGot a link for that, datalessdave?
Techie (84f4ca) — 9/14/2008 @ 11:30 amhuff off, techie…that’s where it is.
datadave (eb12a5) — 9/14/2008 @ 11:38 amHow does that sound any less stupid than what was left in the official version?
jpe (bd88bc) — 9/14/2008 @ 11:46 amSo, no, you don’t then.
Techie (84f4ca) — 9/14/2008 @ 11:56 amTechie,
Ken Hahn (6b4ba8) — 9/14/2008 @ 12:04 pmdid you notice datadave said “Most of Alaska’a dailies…”, instead of Alaska’s people? I guess the lapdog media exists up there too. Too bad for the Dems that voters not media outlets decide elections.
#7 – Pissberian
— You do know that Ron Paul is wrong, don’t you?
Icy Truth (8349ff) — 9/14/2008 @ 12:13 pmI think datadave is “just making stuff up.”
Can’t find a statewide poll that supports a loss in popularity for Palin. Lots of anecdotal crap from radio talk shows and “letters to the editor,” but nothing that is either substantive or credible.
Wrt dissatisfaction with Palin and the “Bridge to Nowhere”: Anti-Palinites attending yesterday’s protest in Anchorage “…included backers of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama, abortion rights proponents, advocates for wolves and polar bears, opponents of the Iraq war, and people who said Palin is not ready to be a heartbeat from the presidency.”
Nothing about “the bridge.”
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/525510.html
belloscm (36d6f2) — 9/14/2008 @ 12:16 pmThe state poll showing Palin’s 80% approval rating:
Icy Truth (8349ff) — 9/14/2008 @ 12:29 pmhttp://www.haysresearch.com/oc072508.htm
That was from before she was announced as McCain’s running mate. Here is a state poll from after she was announced:
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/03/alaska-poll-palin-is-mrs-popularity/
Where is the data to back up your assertions, dave?
From September 3rd:
The McCain team is sending out poll results from a new American Viewpoint poll of 400 RVs. The campaign did not commission this poll.
Job Approval for Gov. Palin: 86%
Among Independents: 86%
Among Democrats: 75%
Overall:
McCain/Palin 57%
Obama/Biden 33%
Among Indies:
McCain/Palin 50%
Obama/Biden 37%
Voters who say Energy is Top Issue:
McCain/Palin 74%
Obama/Biden 18%
Who is more qualified, Palin or Obama:
Palin 30%
Obama 31%
Equal 29%
Does McCain chose of Palin make you more or less likely to vote for McCain:
More likely 56%
Less likely 15%
The interesting one here is the qualification question. Apparently 59% of Alaskans think Governor Palin is as or more qualified than Barack Obama. And they should know.
Another shocker, Palin has 75% job approval… among Democrats in Alaska!
Icy Truth (8349ff) — 9/14/2008 @ 12:32 pmForgot to include this part —
Other findings:
The key advantage Palin brings to the GOP team is an emphasis on the reform dynamic of bringing new ideas and thinking to Washington (+59% net agreement). This is followed by +53% net agreement that the selection makes Alaskans feel proud, increases to +89% net agreement with very conservative voters; +48% net agreement that the selection makes them excited about the pick, increases to +87% net agreement with very conservative voters; and net +36% that she has the qualifications to be Vice-President, +81% net agreement with very conservative voters.
Icy Truth (8349ff) — 9/14/2008 @ 12:35 pmIcy….must have been a loaded poll, if there were 75% Democratics having a positive job approval rating of Gov. Palin…
They must have polled more Democratics than Republicans in that poll…
reff (4ab894) — 9/14/2008 @ 12:36 pmtag/sarc
Paul got it wrong too (at least if Gibson’s definition is use).
Paul: The Bush doctrine of preemptive war is not a minor change; this is huge. This is the first time we, as a nation, accept as our policy that we start the wars. I don’t understand this.
Gibson: “We have the right of anticipatory self-defense” in the event of an imminent attack.
Preemptive war (Paul’s answer) is not the same as responding before an attack is launched (Gibson’s answer).
Palin was right to ask, “What are you talking about, Charlie?”
SteveMG (ca3eaa) — 9/14/2008 @ 12:42 pmI might vote for Palin too if she gave me $3,000.00 a year from oil taxes.
Psyberian (9f6817) — 9/14/2008 @ 12:55 pmPsyberian, another false argument on your part. Alaska has been doing those distributions long before Palin came along.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 12:57 pmSQQR, you just make shit up as you go along. Read the article here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26564403/
Psyberian (9f6817) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:01 pmThat’s not what she did, though. She took a wild guess at what he meant. Had she said, “there are lots of things called Bush doctrines, Charlie,” it would’ve been a perfectly fine response. Instead she swung for the fences and whiffed mightily.
jpe (bd88bc) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:03 pmWell, to clarify, the $1200 extra wasn’t every year before Palin came along.
Psyberian (9f6817) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:07 pmFrom what I can tell, Sarah Palin is just like Barack Obama: almost everyone on both sides of the aisle is seeing what they want to see rather than seeing what is actually there.
What is there, Aphrael?
nk (d681ef) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:07 pmNo, Psyberian, you are the one making stuff up as you’ve been caught before. From your own link:
As I said, these program exists long before Palin. You attempted to insinuate that Palin was paying the full amount to buy approval. That insinuation of yours was false. The extra $1200 was proposed by her, not the dividend payments themselves as you insinuated.
You really are not very good at this.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:07 pmPsyberian: while the one-time boost an reasonably be laid at Gov. Palin’s feet, the regular payment cannot be; it’s a standard part of Alaskan politics.
So you can say she gave everyone $1K, but not that she gave everyone $3K.
[That said, I find it ironic that nobody seems to complain about this being socialism.]
aphrael (9e8ccd) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:09 pmNK: I don’t know; I haven’t taken the time to investigate, and what I get in the press and in reading blogs seems entirely to be selectively culled points which reinforce the preconceptions of the culler. It’s frustrating, but I really have nobody to blame but myself (for not being willing to spend the time to do the research).
aphrael (9e8ccd) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:10 pmDoes this help? People need to follow a banner? It is not enough for people to have the means by which to live but they need a reason for which to live. But that reason is …? Just raising our children? A latte at Starbuck’s? Colonizing the stars?
What banner will
nk (d681ef) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:31 pmgive that to uslead us to that?Then why do you waste your time trying to discredit what I say? I mean, if my arguments were not any good, they wouldn’t need to be refuted now would they? As long as you’re trying to nip at my heels SPQR, I think I’m dong just fine.
Also, what has Palin done to stop this dastardly tax on the oil companies SPQR? Anything at all? I doubt it.
Psyberian (9f6817) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:37 pmObama doesn’t understand either …
.. talk is cheap ..
This may be a big “game changer”
Neo (cba5df) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:45 pmAlaska has the 8th highest cost of living and 11th highest housing costs in the US.
Icy Truth (8349ff) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:45 pmIf my alchohol-befuddled memory is not betraying me, Alaskans were getting about $3,600.00 per person per year when oil first started pumping out of Alaska (and going to Japan). And that’s in 1978 dollars.
nk (d681ef) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:46 pmPiss-boy —
what has Palin done to stop this dastardly tax on the oil companies[?]
— What, making them pay their fare share? As opposed to the “windfall profits tax” crowd, which wants to make them pay MORE than their fare share.
Icy Truth (8349ff) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:50 pm“Ron Paul seemed to understand the Bush doctrine and it is not “multi-faceted” at all…”
Citing that nutcake for anything outside of economics is just foolishness on your part – remember, he’s a big “Truther” advocate. Jeez, do you even know what that refers to?
Dmac (e639cc) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:52 pmPsyberian, no worries, it is not much work to debunk your nonsense. As you say, it is almost self-debunking.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:55 pm38 Dmac- any idea what the only man who can save america actually accomplished in all his years as a US rep from Texas? Another great leader who has all the bright ideas, like Obama. Or long time Senator Biden who has been consistently wrong on foreign affairs. Who did the Paultards gravitate to anyway? I’m guessing the Dalibama, at least for those dudes who worship him while living in parents’ basements playing dungeons and dragons. I suppose the neo-nazi supporters are out in the cold without a standard bearer of their own.
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 9/14/2008 @ 1:59 pmWhat continues to amuse me is that we don’t make these people publish such hilariously transparent proof of their lack of integrity. They do it by themselves, seemingly without any coercion.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 2:06 pmIn a humorous juxtaposition, Icy Truth wrote:
I’d be rather surprised if it didn’t; food and material not produced in the state has to be shipped a lot farther to get to Alaska. The climate might just impose some construction costs that aren’t present in most states.
The greying Dana (556f76) — 9/14/2008 @ 2:21 pmBeyond the hack editing job, check out this film director’s discussion of how the very way the Gibson interview was filmed served to disparage Palin:
http://hollywoodtrenches.vox.com/library/post/make-smaller-telephoto.html
(linked through The Virginian)
Federal Dog (1404a2) — 9/14/2008 @ 2:38 pmmadmax333 #40 – I suppose the neo-nazi supporters are out in the cold without a standard bearer of their own.
No, they’ve got Robert Byrd.
Apogee (366e8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 2:49 pmFederal Dog #43 – excellent link. Now that’s evidence of bias that can’t be erased or diluted. (I haven’t seen the interviews, so the juxtaposition was startling)
As Patterico often says – this should be front page news.
It was a hit piece, plain and simple.
Apogee (366e8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 2:56 pmSPQR, you’re becoming delusional.
Psyberian (9f6817) — 9/14/2008 @ 2:56 pmPsyberian, who told you? Ellersberg? Gleen? Or some other Brazilian cabana boy?
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 2:57 pm“Psyberian, another false argument on your part. Alaska has been doing those distributions long before Palin came along.
Comment by SPQR — ”
farcical, spqr, doncha know ms palin raised it 1200 in the last few monthes. That made her real popular for awhile. And it goes to Every Alaskan, working or not, incl li’l ones. Yearning for Zion ranch really should consider moving there.
That’s called vote buying.
datadave (eb12a5) — 9/14/2008 @ 3:08 pmThough so far, hitting Sarah Palin below the belt hasn’t seemed to hurt her much. Odd, that.
Very odd indeed. Especially now that it’s clear that Sarah Palin has a lot more below the belt that most of the mainstream liberal press and the Obama campaign combined.
equitus (799783) — 9/14/2008 @ 3:09 pmAnd, to be fair, Alaska is 7th highest in average wages, and lowest — what’s that? the LOWEST? — in taxes, but 7th highest in unemployment — although lower than Illinois; heckuva job, Baracky!
Icy Truth (c9b193) — 9/14/2008 @ 3:10 pmHa, SPQR, I really get under your skin don’t I? You’re not doing a very good job of hiding it.
Psyberian (9f6817) — 9/14/2008 @ 3:10 pmIcy Truth, I was offered a whopping salary for a job in Alaska once, but there aren’t many women there, it’s cold, and the cost of living is high. I think they pay people to move to Alaska and practically beg for workers. So a low unemployment rate there is to be expected.
Psyberian (9f6817) — 9/14/2008 @ 3:21 pmGood old DataDave wrote:
You REALLY don’t want to go there on the subject of entitlements, being a progressive Leftist, do you?
Before you comment, do read up on The Great Society.
Just wow. I never really believed in the “lefties suffer from projection” meme, but here it is.
Eric Blair (2708f4) — 9/14/2008 @ 3:31 pmPsyberian, ROFL. You are so far from being under my skin that you would have a lightspeed communications lag. I find you amusing trivial play.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 3:35 pm#48 That’s called vote buying.
Perfect Sense (9d1b08) — 9/14/2008 @ 3:45 pmI’m late to the tread, you are talking about affirmative action – right?
oops “thread” not tread.
Perfect Sense (9d1b08) — 9/14/2008 @ 3:46 pmPsyberian –
a low unemployment rate there is to be expected.
— Uh, I was admitting that Alaska has the 7th highest unemployment rate in the nation.
there aren’t many women there, it’s cold, and the cost of living is high.
Icy Truth (74c635) — 9/14/2008 @ 3:54 pm— The rate of rape is high; mortality rate (lowest in the nation), median age (3rd lowest), and percent of the population over age 65 (lowest) are all low — indicating that Alaskans tend to move away from the state as they grow older, probably due to the cold; and I already said that the cost of living is high.
Palin came off like an idiot. We will never go to war with Russia. And Proxy wars a dangerous business.
About the prayer, you’re right, though I still think someone should ask her if we’re living in the End Times.
And remember MCCAINS NUMBER ONE FOREIGN POLICY ADVISOR WAS A PAID LOBBYIST FOR GEORGIA.
JAR (6b0755) — 9/14/2008 @ 4:13 pmLet’s change his name to Morgellons!
rhodeymark (6231e5) — 9/14/2008 @ 4:21 pmJAR, it has already been shown that Russia was engaging in provocations before that date. See Michael Totten’s reporting on the situation. Once again, you are not paying attention.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 4:26 pmHey JAR, what part of Rohrbacher’s statement didn’t you understand? Let’s review:
Georgia started the fighting that began on August
OK? So everyone agrees that breakaway S. Ossetia belongs to Georgia. Nothing but nothing gave Russia the right to do what they did. The article even says that Rohrbacher’s comments were a propoganda coup widely rebroadcast in Russia. Congressional FAIL. But here is what you are to obtuse to see. The strategic response is to make sure that Gazprom gets plenty of competition in arctic gas development. Only one politician will see that through.
rhodeymark (6231e5) — 9/14/2008 @ 4:32 pmpropaganda PIMF
rhodeymark (6231e5) — 9/14/2008 @ 4:33 pmDana Rohrabacher, who otherwise you would disagree with on nearly every issue, got this one right? The only member of Congress who did not throw Jack Abromoff under the bus — him you trust? And how interesting that within the very quote you used is the proof that the whole assertion is bullshit: “Russia joined the battle”.
Icy Truth (aea3ff) — 9/14/2008 @ 4:38 pmThat said, I find it ironic that nobody seems to complain about this being socialism
Receiving royalities is socialism?
I think there are a lot of authors, musicians, actors, et al, that might like to disagree with you.
Darleen (187edc) — 9/14/2008 @ 4:44 pmGeorgia hasn’t had control of the region for since 1992. The vast majority of the population backs Russia and in two referenda voted for joining with it. I’m not going to go over the details of a complex situation with idiots whose position on any subject amounts to little more than reflexive shouting: you don’t know shit and you don’t want to learn.
JAR (6b0755) — 9/14/2008 @ 4:50 pmKarl Rove says Big Mac’s gone too far
JAR (6b0755) — 9/14/2008 @ 4:51 pmAnd no I don’t like him either.
JAR, so you are applauding a Russian invasion of a soverign nation, a nation that is famously pro-American.
Well, it is getting more obvious whose side you are on. And it isn’t America’s.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 4:53 pmthese out-takes have been removed from Greenberg’s site. Really juvenile baitch to have a monkey dumping on McCain’s head. Imagine the outrage if Obumbler were treated with this deference? But I guess political pornography is just hunky dory with the modern progressives?
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 9/14/2008 @ 4:58 pmhttp;//americandigest.org/mt-archives/bad_americans/the_atlantic_mo.php
try again:
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/bad_americans/the_atlantic_mo.php
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:00 pmNote that Greenberg’s client list includes Miller Beer and Anheuser-Busch. And Cindy McCain is chair of Hensley & Co. -one of the largest Anheuser-Busch distributorships in the country. Isn’t that curious?
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:05 pmA great rabid press attacking Palin video ROTFLMAO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWP5ljQV79s
J. Raymond Wright (0440ef) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:07 pmI don’t applaud the invasion of sovereign nations in general
JAR (6b0755) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:10 pmJAR, sure you do. You’ve just claimed that Russia was justified in its actions.
You just applaud invasions by nations other than the United States.
We can notice trends, JAR.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:13 pmHaha JAR asserts his superior knowledge on global affairs with a Wikipedia entry. But hey check it out he linked to SOUTH OSSETIA and not GEORGIA because like knowing that obscure name makes him so S-M-R-T! And now he will commence calling people idiots who “don’t know shit”. Still a lying cunt (your term from before, if the shoe fits) in addition to being juvenile, and a complete asshole as always. Nice trifecta, you mendacious prick!
Jack Klompus (b0e238) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:19 pmNow, now, Jack. No need to descend to JAR’s level of vocabulary.
Just wait a moment, and I’m sure JAR will be recycling arguments in favor of Germany’s annexation of Sudetenland.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:22 pmJ Raymond Wright,
I’ve seen your link and another video from Copious Dissent that are very impressive. I’m going to bookmark its YouTube video website.
DRJ (7568a2) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:24 pmJAR is a noted student of world history, just a notably poor one. Wait until he brings up Benny Morris and revisionist Israeli history. That’s some of my favorite stuff.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:35 pmwelfare baby’s?
datadave (eb12a5) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:40 pmdatadave = Rosemary’s baby?
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:44 pm#78 Returning tax money to citizens is not welfare.
Perfect Sense (9d1b08) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:49 pmAs longtime Patterico participants know, I am not in the habit of writing all caps posts. But this time I will make an exception.
You WILL thank me.
L.N. Smithee (27530b) — 9/14/2008 @ 5:59 pmOops, J. Raymond Wright: I posted a link to the “Lying King” video from Copious Dissent as well, but it’s in WordPress Purgatory at the moment. The video is spreading like wildfire, as well it should. Wish I had thought of it!
L.N. Smithee (27530b) — 9/14/2008 @ 6:12 pmI’ll find it, LN. The “Lying King” is such a funny video that it’s worth posting the link twice.
DRJ (7568a2) — 9/14/2008 @ 6:17 pmI embedded Lying King on my site and sure as clockwork my resident Lefty is whining.
He didn’t like this one either. Not an authentic woman.
Darleen (187edc) — 9/14/2008 @ 6:21 pmThe following is a partial cut-and-paste of my reply on a NewsBusters thread. It applies in this thread just as much.
L.N. Smithee (27530b) — 9/14/2008 @ 6:29 pmComment by L.N. Smithee — 9/14/2008 @ 5:59 pm
You’re right; that’s seven kinds of awesome. Bookmarked and goin’ out. And, as you predicted…THANK YOU! 🙂
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 9/14/2008 @ 6:42 pmJAR wrote: About the prayer, you’re right, though I still think someone should ask her if we’re living in the End Times.
Should someone ask United Church of Christ member Barack “I won’t object if you liken me to Jesus” Obama about the book of Revelation? Remember, this is a guy who cited The Sermon on the Mount when he said he supported civil unions.
I guarantamdee you that if that question is sprung on him without warning, his response will many times more disjointed than Palin’s reply to Gibson’s question about the Bush Doctrine.
L.N. Smithee (27530b) — 9/14/2008 @ 6:50 pmLN,
I think the media refined its techniques on Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinsky and Linda Tripp.
DRJ (7568a2) — 9/14/2008 @ 6:54 pmDRJ wrote: I think the media refined its techniques on Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinsky and Linda Tripp.
I think I know what you mean, but I don’t think a case could be made the media mania revolving those women compares to the ton of bricks that has fallen on Palin’s head. Especially considering that her record of bipartisanship, performance, and popularity is such that if she was pro-choice, she had aborted Trig, and her daughter aborted her child, she would be spoken of as VP material for Obama.
L.N. Smithee (27530b) — 9/14/2008 @ 7:09 pmSTRATFOR on the Georgia conflict.
There’s a lot to argue with, but it’s a serious response.
Unlike anyone’s here.
And Mr. Smithee, linking to Focus on the Family’s views of the Sermon on the Mount is like linking to Ibn Saud’s views on the Koran. But I neither know nor care if Obama’s theology is off.
JAR (6b0755) — 9/14/2008 @ 7:15 pmI don’t care much for theology one way or the other.
“In one of the most dramatic days in Wall Street’s history, Merrill Lynch agreed to sell itself to Bank of America for roughly $50 billion to avert a deepening financial crisis while another prominent securities firm, Lehman Brothers, hurtled toward liquidation after it failed to find a buyer, people briefed on the deals said.”
—
“NEW YORK (Reuters) – American International Group Inc CEO Robert Willumstad turned down a private equity infusion and turned to the Federal Reserve for help, the Wall Street Journal, citing people familiar with the situation, reported Sunday.”
—
“The Federal Reserve Board on Sunday announced several initiatives to provide additional support to financial markets, including enhancements to its existing liquidity facilities.”
And who pays?
JAR (6b0755) — 9/14/2008 @ 7:23 pm[And who pays no attention?]
JAR, the Stratfor link adds nothing to your silly comments. Once again, on the financial subject, you are cut and pasting random news reports that you don’t seem to understand at all.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 7:30 pmJARdín de mentiras –
There’s a lot to argue with, but it’s a serious response. Unlike anyone’s here.
— Gotta like it when you can combine a non sequiter and an ad hominem attack into one statement.
I neither know nor care if Obama’s theology is off. I don’t care much for theology one way or the other.
Icy Truth (b8f405) — 9/14/2008 @ 7:31 pm— Au contraire! You care very much for your liberal-secularist theology.
” … Administration officials acknowledged this week that more bank failures are inevitable, and the main protection for depositors — the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation — is likely to exhaust the reserves it has built over the years from bank insurance premiums.”
Another god that failed. Oh dear.
JAR (6b0755) — 9/14/2008 @ 7:40 pmJAR, that’s hilarious since last week you were claiming that FDIC was already out of money.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 7:42 pm“JARdín de mentiras?”
Igualmente
JAR (6b0755) — 9/14/2008 @ 7:43 pm“last week you were claiming that FDIC was already out of money”
What’ve you been smoking?
JAR (6b0755) — 9/14/2008 @ 7:44 pmJAR, you don’t even remember your own comments? that’s hilarious.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/14/2008 @ 7:45 pmfind the comment in question and give us the link.
Duncan Black puts it well
“We’re All Communists Now ”
“The American International Group is seeking a $40 billion bridge loan from the Federal Reserve, as it faces a potential downgrade from credit ratings agencies that could spell its doom, a person briefed on the matter said Sunday night.
Ratings agencies threatened to downgrade the insurance giant’s credit rating by Monday morning, allowing counterparties to withdraw capital from their contracts with the company. One person close to the firm said that if such an event occurred, A.I.G. may survive for only 48 hours to 72 hours.”
JAR (6b0755) — 9/14/2008 @ 7:47 pmJARdín de la infancia –
Another god that failed. Oh dear.
— The Obama campaign’s official post-election song:
Pride you took, pride you feel
pride that you felt when you’d kneel
not the word, not the love
not what you thought from above
it feeds, it grows
it clouds all that you will know
deceit, deceive
decide just what you believe
I see faith in your eyes
never your hear the discouraging lies
I hear faith in your cries
broken is the promise, betrayal
the healing hand held back by the deepened nail
follow the god that failed
find your peace, find your say
Icy Truth (b8f405) — 9/14/2008 @ 8:04 pmfind the smooth road in your way
trust you gave, a child to save
left you cold and him in grave
it feeds, it grows
it clouds all that you will know
deceit, deceive
decide just what you believe
I see faith in your eyes
never you hear the discouraging lies
I hear faith in your cries
broken is the promise, betrayal
the healing hand held back by the deepened nail
follow the god that failed
Regarding the financial crisis, JAR wrote: ..who pays no attention?
My guess, the Democrats on the congressional finance committees that get discount home loans.
Perfect Sense (9d1b08) — 9/14/2008 @ 8:09 pmFantastic.
JAR has reverted to pure link dumping and cut and pasting.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 9/14/2008 @ 8:32 pmThis is for Pat, and WLS.
JAR (6b0755) — 9/14/2008 @ 9:11 pmThe rest of you won’t be interested. And Pat and WLS will say they aren’t , and they’ll be lying.
trague mi JARabe –
— Assuming what the boss will say, and then asserting that what he says will be a lie?
Can’t wait to read your 21st century revision of “How To Win Friends And Influence People”.
Icy Truth (0b82c2) — 9/14/2008 @ 9:22 pmJAR – Interesting info keeps surfacing on smears on Palin. It appears no rapes were reported in Wasilla between 1995 and 1999. One was reported in 2000, the year the law changed. Seems you and your lefty friends on the intartubes and in Alaska have just been burning the midnight smear oil.
The practice if having rape victims pay for tests is still in place, as I previously mentioned. Care to guess one state where the practice is still in effect. You’ll really, really like this JAR.
Illinois – Yup, home of the Messiah. Check it out at the link.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 9/14/2008 @ 9:59 pmPalin got the extra $1,200 by re-negotiating the value of the asset that is the property of the people of Alaska (oil) with the party contracted to deploy it, the oil companies. This is best seen as a contracting party recognizing the increased value of an asset, and insisting that the owners share more effectively in its utilization.
This is the same as a strip mall owner resetting payments by tenants when the mall starts to attract more customers. The total worth of the location goes up and both parties share in the benefit.
Sounds to me to be plain old solid negotiation to me.
You can label it a “windfall profits” tax if you like, but really it is a recognition of increased asset value to be shared.
Jimac2 (2cca20) — 9/15/2008 @ 12:07 amJerk-A-Rama wrote: And Mr. Smithee, linking to Focus on the Family’s views of the Sermon on the Mount is like linking to Ibn Saud’s views on the Koran.
When you don’t know what you’re talking about, you REALLY like to go all the way, don’tcha?
The link is not to Focus on The Family, it is to the Catholic News Agency, an American non-profit group modeled upon a Peruvian Catholic news service.
You’re always nagging us to click on your links (even though you constantly misrepresent their meaning), but you don’t return the favor. Don’t worry, I’m not offended. It’s what I expect of you.
But I neither know nor care if Obama’s theology is off.
I don’t care much for theology one way or the other.
Class, who can tell us why Mr. JAR would want someone to ask Gov. Palin about her view on “the End Times” if he doesn’t care what she thinks?
.:*Channeling Arnold Horshack*:. OH! OH! OH! OH! OH! OH!
Mr. JAR wants Governor Palin to answer an “End Times” question because he wants to start a controversy about her religious beliefs. That plays on the Democrats’ fear of religion, and could stop those who might cross over to vote for McCain. This is despite the fact he’s the type of person that downplays Barack Obama’s association with a racist, anti-American preacher.
L.N. Smithee (27530b) — 9/15/2008 @ 1:03 amOh, and JAR – regarding that Stratfor link. I found an interesting paragraph:
Your man Barry Teleprompter, in his first statement on the invasion of Georgia, as reported by Reuters:
Hmmm…but the thing that annoyed Putin and the Don’t-Call-Us-Soviets was NOT Iraq, but Kosovo.
I forget, JAR…which party was running the White House in 1998?
L.N. Smithee (27530b) — 9/15/2008 @ 1:31 amCan we ever expect anything less from the liberal left-wing NEW YORK SLIMES?
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WillNotBeFooledByObamaNATION (c62648) — 9/15/2008 @ 12:46 pm