ABC Edits of Palin Interview Were Unfair
ABC did some extensive editing of that Palin interview. Now, some editing is necessary. But what they’ve done is really beyond the pale. Newsbusters has the unedited transcript.
Here’s one example among many. The big story from ABC was this:
EXCLUSIVE: GOV. SARAH PALIN WARNS WAR MAY BE NECESSARY IF RUSSIA INVADES ANOTHER COUNTRY
Now look at what they edited out:
We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We’ve learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.
We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
. . . .
And we have got to be vigilant. We have got to show the support, in this case, for Georgia. The support that we can show is economic sanctions perhaps against Russia, if this is what it leads to.
It doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.
Incredible. They sent e-mails screaming that she’s a warmonger — and edited out her talk of not going to war.
Yet, is anyone truly surprised?
UPDATE: This part should also be highlighted. The bolded parts were removed:
But what Abraham Lincoln had said, and that’s a repeat in my comments, was let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God’s side.
That’s what that comment was all about, Charlie. And I do believe, though, that this war against extreme Islamic terrorists is the right thing. It’s an unfortunate thing, because war is hell and I hate war, and, Charlie, today is the day that I send my first born, my son, my teenage son overseas with his Stryker brigade, 4,000 other wonderful American men and women, to fight for our country, for democracy, for our freedoms.
Charlie, those are freedoms that too many of us just take for granted. I hate war and I want to see war ended. We end war when we see victory, and we do see victory in sight in Iraq.
GIBSON: I take your point about Lincoln’s words, but you went on and said, “There is a plan and it is God’s plan.”
Any hint Palin hated war was removed. Editing should leave in the essence of the speaker’s responses. This edit cut out the heart of her antiwar sentiments. Then ABC sold a spin that she was pro-war.
This should be on the front page of every newspaper.
Post by Patterico and not “Alex.”
Comments now open.
Comment by Patterico — 9/13/2008 @ 1:04 pm
Charlie Gibson was.
He doesn’t seem to have the foggiest idea about the point of having an alliance with someone.
Comment by Al — 9/13/2008 @ 1:05 pm
Surprised? No.
I am just waiting for November 5th, when the media and Barry camp realize “holy crap! Sarah was not running for President?”
Oh, and then the ever-present calls that the GOP stole the election.
I did want to see Sarah reach over and fix Charlies glasses, the way Mom’s always do. “Let me straighten them for you, dear. Try cleaning them now and then, too.”
Comment by William Teach — 9/13/2008 @ 1:14 pm
You’ve really got to go look at the unedited transcript of the Gibson/Palin interview.
ABC is trash. Charlie Gibson should go to Candy Mountain.
Comment by Neo — 9/13/2008 @ 1:25 pm
Whats the difference – NBC Dateline – exploding gas tanks, CBS Dan Rather national guard fake documents, ABC skillfull but blatant editing.
They all got agenda’s.
Comment by Joe - Dallas — 9/13/2008 @ 1:31 pm
The only way to win over the MSM is with “a vichysoisse in every pot and Power Glutes in every bedroom”.
Comment by nk — 9/13/2008 @ 1:41 pm
BTW, Patterico, how did your program get enough free will to call you Alex? And why Alex? And does Instapundit know about this?
Comment by nk — 9/13/2008 @ 1:47 pm
Contact World News with Charlle Gibson direct here.
Comment by Neo — 9/13/2008 @ 1:52 pm
I’m not surprised, but the truth is a bit more complicated than Newsbusters lets on. They aired certain snippets on World News, others on Nightline, and others still on Good Morning America, with substantial overlap, but in several cases what got cut from one did not get cut from the others. The extended anti-war discussion is one such example, the negotiations with foreign states (albeit not heads of state) was another.
Comment by Xrlq — 9/13/2008 @ 1:53 pm
Yeah, but let’s be serious guys, this woman is way out of her league, an embarassment for a VP nomination.
Comment by Jack — 9/13/2008 @ 2:07 pm
No, not surprised at all, as soon as “charlie” tried to define the “bush doctrine” in a single sentence, i turned to another channel.
With Russert gone theres really no one available who knows what the hell they are talking about on the big 3 save for maybe George Stephanopoulos.
Comment by james conrad — 9/13/2008 @ 2:07 pm
Italian Communist murder Signore Fiat and his wife …
Comment by Adriane — 9/13/2008 @ 2:11 pm
To quote Iago,
“Oh, there’s a big surprise..I think I’m gonna have a heart attack and die from that surprise”.
Liberals. Sheesh.
Comment by Ziotic — 9/13/2008 @ 2:11 pm
#11, forgot citation:
George Seldes, ‘Witness to a Century’
Comment by Adriane — 9/13/2008 @ 2:13 pm
Methinks Gibson’s seriously reconsidering his decision not to retire earlier this year. Probably will when he drags The Messiah’s carcass across the finish line in November.
Comment by Dmac — 9/13/2008 @ 2:13 pm
Yeah, but let’s be serious guys, this woman is way out of her league, an embarassment for a VP nomination.
The rail-splitter from Illinois was an embarassment as a Presidential nomination, too. Successful people change the rules. They make the rules. Let’s see if Mayor Daley’s butt-boy can.
Comment by nk — 9/13/2008 @ 2:15 pm
Boomerang time, Jack!
This “woman“? Got sexism?
I mean, if we are supposed to be all concerned about code words and phrases?
Anyway, your quote describes how I feel about Senator Obama’s nomination for the Presidency. After all, he recently visited New Pennsylvania (one of the 57 states). And let’s not forget that recent kerfluffle regarding Georgia and NATO. Too bad Obama’s proposed policy agrees with Palin’s.
Except for the “R” after her name, I mean.
Like I said, almost any criticism of Governor Palin boomerangs back onto Senator Obama.
It’ll be interesting to see how this all shakes out.
But the best part is watching the MSM insist that they are not being partisan!
Comment by Eric Blair — 9/13/2008 @ 2:17 pm
Gibson’s mission was to kill the Beast on behalf of Barack and the other members of the media. He failed.
From the Telegraph on the Obama campaign:
A senior Democratic strategist, who has played a prominent role in two presidential campaigns, told The Sunday Telegraph: “These guys are on the verge of blowing the greatest gimme in the history of American politics. They’re the most arrogant bunch Ive ever seen. They won’t accept that they are losing and they won’t listen.”
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/13/2008 @ 2:19 pm
Yeah, but let’s be serious guys, this woman is way out of her league, an embarassment for a VP nomination.
Hey, “Jack”, you may first note that there are more than “guys” here
then you may disabuse me of my suspicion that your objections have more to do with class and sex then they do with anything substansive.
feh
Comment by Darleen — 9/13/2008 @ 2:22 pm
No Surprise here. Par for the course. If you want to see a comparison of the Gibson Obama interview and the Gibson Palin interview just click on my name. Of course I hijacked it from Newsbusters or Hotair, can’t remember. They hi-jacked it from someone else but it is accurate and enlightening. Liberal Fascist Journalistic Nazi Stormtroopers! Charlies a General.
Comment by J. Raymond Wright — 9/13/2008 @ 2:23 pm
XRLQ
Good point. However, the greatest Bowdlerized snippets aired at 6:30pm, dinnertime in most family homes when the tv is turned on. And on the westcoast, the scrubbing of the embarrassing “exact words” segment had already taken place. How many people seeing it at 6:30 were going to stay up and watch it again at 11:30? Airing more complete segments late at night gives ABC a thin veil of plausible deniability “What? Edit? Us? But looky over here!”
It’s akin to Barry’s “I’m one of you!” to blue collar workers in PA, then snuggling up to the aristocracy in tony San Francisco and snickering about the dirty “clingers” with their guns and religion.
Comment by Darleen — 9/13/2008 @ 2:29 pm
“Yeah, but let’s be serious guys, this woman is way out of her league, an embarassment for a VP nomination.
Comment by Jack — 9/13/2008 @ 2:07 pm”
Funny, those were the exact words her two opponents for governor used! Well, except substitute “governor” for “VP.”
Comment by Dan S — 9/13/2008 @ 2:29 pm
I know this is off topic by why isn’t the US News Media reporting about the Muslim Terrorist attack in India’s capital yesterday?
Could it be that they are afraid that reporting on this would hurt Obama and help McCain?
http://www.sajaforum.org/2008/09/breaking-news-b.html
Comment by Larry — 9/13/2008 @ 2:32 pm
Poor Charlie Gibson. Can you imagine the pressure that man was under to sabotage Sarah Palin. The whole liberal establishment was looking over his shoulder, counting on him and ABC News, to make sure that little snit of a silly woman was firmly, but politely, put in her place. Dems own the female vote, always have, you can count on it. Who else are they going to vote for, Oprah?
Anyway, the sooner Palin is exposed for the unqualified upstart she so obvoiusly is, the better for the Democrat Party, and the fiminist movement too, and she’ll have more time to stay home and take care of her family. See, it works all way around, what’s good for Dems is good for Amerika.
So, good work Charlie! It was a dirty low-down rotten thing that had to be done, any you stepped up to the plate and gave it your best shot, kicked the little woman’s butt. Great move too, editing her responses to make her look like a stupid housewife. Sure, it ain’t playing on a level field, but so what? There’s no controlling legal authority.
Comment by Ropelight — 9/13/2008 @ 2:35 pm
“Incredible. They sent e-mails screaming that she’s a warmonger — and edited out her talk of not going to war.”
I agree, that part of Palin’s speech should not have been edited out.
But who sent e-mails screaming?
Are you refering to ABC sending them, Democrats, or the main stream media as a whole?
Comment by Oiram — 9/13/2008 @ 2:42 pm
The edits didn’t materially change anything. ABC properly cut out political fluff and waffles.
Comment by jpe — 9/13/2008 @ 2:47 pm
contact Gibson here and let him know what you think of his bias please
http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346&cat=World%20News%20with%20Charles%20Gibson
Comment by stephen — 9/13/2008 @ 2:49 pm
jpe flunked basic English class.
Comment by Darleen — 9/13/2008 @ 2:56 pm
Ropelight:
The real question is whether it am or ain’t playing in Peoria. My guess is that it ain’t, but then again, come election day there’s nothing that can go so wrong in Peoria, IL that a few hundred thousand dead voters in Chicago, IL can’t fix it.
Comment by Xrlq — 9/13/2008 @ 2:57 pm
Good work, Astro.
Comment by Jim Treacher — 9/13/2008 @ 2:59 pm
“The edits didn’t materially change anything.”
Then your comprehension skills approximates the level of a two – year old.
Comment by Dmac — 9/13/2008 @ 3:07 pm
Xrlq,
I just had a visit from an old friend, he retired from the newspaper biz last year. He’s very liberal in the best sense of the word. He’s also firmly enrobed in Dem assumptions. You could think of him as someone you respect, and admire, but don’t agree with on most things political. He’s bright, honest, and usually wrong. I like him.
We discussed Sarah Palin and her shabby treatment by ABC. His take was that only about 15% of voters really knew why they voted for A over B, the other 85% were split between Dems and the GOP. He thinks MSM has the ability to sway enough voters to throw almost any election to the Dems. They don’t have any experience favoring the GOP, so he offers no opinion there.
Comment by Ropelight — 9/13/2008 @ 3:09 pm
Maybe one of you civic minded lawyers could sue ABC for something. Unreported donations of airtime to the Democrats perhaps.
Comment by martin — 9/13/2008 @ 3:16 pm
“This should be on the front page of every newspaper.”
In what alternative universe would this happen?
What papers today are run by Democrats in order to serve the advance of Democrats and the Democrat agenda.
You say “should”, on the premise that these folks share a common morality and ethic.
They don’t.
Comment by PrestoPundit — 9/13/2008 @ 3:24 pm
Democrats only have to run against Republicans – Republicans run against goth Democrats and the Lamestream Media.
Comment by Darleen — 9/13/2008 @ 3:33 pm
I really think Republicans should have a new policy. No interviews unless the interviewee ends up with a complete duplicate of the raw material, and the rights to use it as they see fit. With explicit permission to just slap the entire raw feed on YouTube, etc.
This is really getting passé.
Comment by Al — 9/13/2008 @ 4:22 pm
It’s going to be all CalvinBall, all the time. Someone ought to send him a mask.
Comment by htom — 9/13/2008 @ 4:25 pm
what is the source for the uneditted version? before Levin and Newsbusters? Where are the unediutted versiuons of the rest of the intervuiews??
Comment by TCOhebebanned — 9/13/2008 @ 5:38 pm
This should be on the front page of every newspaper.
And every good deed should be rewarded.
Comment by Amphipolis — 9/13/2008 @ 5:56 pm
ABC should have their press credentials denied and their office in the White house press room removed
Comment by EricPWJohnson — 9/13/2008 @ 5:57 pm
ABC should have their press credentials removed and their presence denied at the
whitehouse
Comment by EricPWJohnson — 9/13/2008 @ 5:58 pm
#29 Xrlq:
You bring up a good point, namely: Can the Obama campaign now rely on some of state races put into play by the McCain Gambit™, is the party apparatus strong enough to insure pulling out the electoral votes or not?
I’m thinking that some recent Dem losses might not have been so close except for Chicago style electioneering.
Comment by EW1(SG) — 9/13/2008 @ 6:09 pm
If Palin incorporates this into her updated stump speech, explaining how she said one thing and the editors tried to make her sound like someone else, then in the end ABC’s hatchet job becomes a plus. Keep it folksy, tie it to Obama saying one thing in rural America and the opposite to San Fran fundraisers. Link Obama to the corrupt media as two parts of the same team, and McCain/Palin win in a landslide. American’s don’t like being sucker punched and detests those who throw such punches.
Comment by bob — 9/13/2008 @ 8:24 pm
Hello.
Still berating McCain’s Chosen One for Journalist??
Charlie and ABC was carefully picked for Ms. Palin’s coming out party. He is fatherly enough. Why do you accuse McCain of picking a bad chaperon?
Anyway, CNN’s portrayals of Palin/Biden are on tonight and will probably be seen by more people.
I note two ‘world views’ both troubling to me, McCain/Biden is filled with vendettas, angry flaps with former spouses, lying about opponents…while Obama/Biden is a Lawyer-only thing. Change? Maybe not too much? McCain is Bush3, and Obama is Lawyer’s only. Kind of sad really if that’s the only choice we have.
But McCain’s clever li’l pick might be unraveling now….Moosolini is a mendacious, backstabbing Republican. What’s new about that?
Great we might have a cabinet of Wasilla high school chums in the White House. That’s how Sarah Barracuda does it in AK.
and stop blogging you fools, Sarah says so:
” And four months ago, a Wasilla blogger, Sherry Whitstine, who chronicles the governor’s career with an astringent eye, answered her phone to hear an assistant to the governor on the line, she said.
“You should be ashamed!” Ivy Frye, the assistant, told her. “Stop blogging. Stop blogging right now!””
read, it gets worse.
Comment by datadave — 9/13/2008 @ 10:29 pm
Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes
That’s what you wanted us to read???
Obama do the same thing??? yes….
Name for us a politician who got elected who hired foes and lashed out at friends….
Next….
Comment by reff — 9/13/2008 @ 10:33 pm
I read your link….
She has all these enemies, and an 80% approval rate…
They must have found every person who disapproves, and wrote their story….
Next….
Comment by reff — 9/13/2008 @ 10:40 pm
Mr. Frey to d.d. – “Stop blogging. Stop blogging right now!”
Comment by Icy Truth — 9/13/2008 @ 10:42 pm
hey, it’s easy to have a 80 percent approval rating (incl. Dems) if are only in office 20 monthes and you scam off the Oil Companies a 1200 bribe per person for every Alaskan in the state on top of a 2000 existing Oil Company payment to every Alaskan. I guess you could call her Queen Saud or the Utimate Welfare Queen.
Well, who pays for those vote bribes she’s handing out? You, perhaps, through higher gasoline prices.
Comment by datadave — 9/13/2008 @ 10:53 pm
and link that 80 percent rating was that last spring perhaps?
Comment by datadave — 9/13/2008 @ 10:53 pm
Obama won’t be putting his local high school chums in office due to their loyalty over experience. He’ll be picking ‘professionals’, not chums.
Comment by datadave — 9/13/2008 @ 10:55 pm
“Great we might have a cabinet of Wasilla high school chums in the White House. That’s how Sarah Barracuda does it in AK.”
DD – Try to buy a clue here. How did Howlin’ Howie Dean do it in the huge and diverse state of Vermont?
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/13/2008 @ 10:59 pm
it’s easy to have a 80 percent approval rating (incl. Dems) if are only in office 20 monthes
– It’s easy to have a 9% approval rating after only 20 months if you are the Democratic-majority Congress.
Comment by Icy Truth — 9/13/2008 @ 11:01 pm
datadave:
All this time I thought Presidents picked the Cabinet. Then again, maybe you think Palin will be President someday.
Comment by DRJ — 9/13/2008 @ 11:07 pm
I like where as a mayor of a tiny li’l burg, Sarah gets to buy herself with taxpayer’s money (town of 5000 at the time) a brand new white Suburban, the Mayor Mobile. Then she raises sales taxes (a most regressive tax) to pay for a relatively huge hockey rink where her son played like an ‘animal’ and eventually got thrown off every game…ah, that’s just a side issue…) town of 5 to 7 K, three times my town’s budget of same pop.
icy truth, Pelosi is pretty lame as a leader I admit but the bad rating is due to bad press…no one even reports what’s going on in the legislature…just that they can’t do anything (due to Bush’s veto power. Pelosi is a upscale, attractive wealthy person who avoids conflict….that’s a problem for Democrats.
Comment by datadave — 9/13/2008 @ 11:11 pm
drj, i fear it. Moosolini could do it. She’s like very good on screen. No doubt about it. But then she might sink like a stone. Now if she can make friends outside her very limited sphere of confidants (esp. her bonehead husband now shown to be harrassing public servants and demanding she do a wolf kill etc. ) whe might get somewhere.
She knows international relations ’cause she can see Russia from somewhere in Alaska. (one of the highpoints of Charlie Tuna’s interview..)
Thank You, McCain for turning this campaign into a version of Desperate Housewives.
But the gender barrier and racial barriers have been broached….so good on both parties.
Comment by datadave — 9/13/2008 @ 11:16 pm
daleyrocks,, come on, howie dean? NYC private schooled, doctor, well educated whatever….certainly didn’t pick mostly high school friends to be on his cabinet and included Republicans in his inner circle…alas, he was a rather conservative Democratic governor.
Comment by datadave — 9/13/2008 @ 11:19 pm
“Pelosi is pretty lame as a leader I admit but the bad rating is due to bad press”
DD – Dreaming. More due to not getting anything done due to holding endless show hearings, proposing legislation guaranteed to be vetoed, not doing anything on energy, etc., etc.
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/13/2008 @ 11:24 pm
“Great we might have a cabinet of Wasilla high school chums in the White House. That’s how Sarah Barracuda does it in AK.”
DD – Typical. The NY Times says the Alaska Statehouse is like a Wasilla H.S. reunion but only produces two examples. Hey, I’m convinced!
A whole lot of innuendo in that article, sinister implications. Substance, not much.
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/13/2008 @ 11:27 pm
Obama won’t be putting his local high school chums in office
Maybe because he doesn’t have any.
Did you see one person who was an oldtime friend at the Obama Parthenon?
How come there is no one in his past to stand by his side and say “Hey, I knew him when…”
Of course there is Ayers, but Obama’s Plumber Unit is doing their best to gut any look into the CAC.
Obama has as many old friends as Nixon.
Comment by Darleen — 9/13/2008 @ 11:29 pm
datadave —
Pelosi is a upscale, attractive wealthy person who avoids conflict
– Thanks. I didn’t want to keep my dinner down anyway.
Then she raises sales taxes (a most regressive tax) to pay for a relatively huge hockey rink
– Please pay attention. That was a voter-approved ballot measure. If the people didn’t want it, they would have voted NO.
Comment by Icy Truth — 9/13/2008 @ 11:29 pm
daleyrocks
The NYSlimes piece is just chapter two of the hit piece they did on McCain about the “affair” that never happened.
The piece will just mean more votes for McCain/Palin
Comment by Darleen — 9/13/2008 @ 11:31 pm
ok, she scammed the oil companies to give the state more money, then returned it to the people, and you act like that is a bad thing…seems to me that the oil companies, who are, according to you Democratics, in the pockets of the Republicans would not like her, but they do….as for “welfare” it can’t be “welfare” if the money doesn’t come from the government….that money came from the profits of the oil companies, the same place Obama wants to take it and give it to the people in the form of a rebate to pay for high fuel prices….she does what Obama says, succeeds at it, and you complain???
Link what 80%???…that’s from the daily kos site….which never posts the lowest Congressional approval rate in the history of polling….
The hockey rink was approved by the voters, who taxed themselves to pay for it, and you “blame” that on the mayor….damn….she must be good to get more than half the people to do something they didn’t want to do….Oh, and it left the city in debt, too, but, of course, the sales tax will pay for it….by the choice of the voters….Damn, the American way all over again, and you’re complaining again….as for your town’s budget….you don’t have any oil…stop complaining and drill…oh, wait, your a freakin’ Democratic, you don’t think drilling can solve anything…..
A politician picks people she trust to run things….does that mean they are doing a bad job??? Didn’t see any complaints listed from the Wasilla community either, did you??? Except, of course, from the New York Times, who found the 20% who don’t approve of her, and wrote only abou them….they skipped the 80% who liked her because it didn’t fit their format….
Of course, you eliminate parts of Charlie Tuna’s interview that explain Russia, Alaska, and AMERICA’s connections….but, leaving things out….you, Charlie Tuna, same MO….
Pelosi is a bad leader because she can’t lead, and has done NOTHING, not because of bad press….she gets to say anything she wants, propose anything she wants, and still can’t get it done even when the “bad”–NOT–press does her bidding….on this one, your not datadave, you’re just stupid….
You’re too freakin’ easy….but, please, keep trying…..till you vote on November 6….
Comment by reff — 9/13/2008 @ 11:35 pm
Darleen – I know, just another hit piece. With all her shady dealings, remoteness, vendettas and the people who hate her up there, it must be tough to keep an 85% approval rating. I wonder how much the media is paying people for interviews up there now, people can probably write their own ticket with the number of reporters on the ground.
Local – What do you want me to say?
Reporter – That Palin is a crazy religious zealot who drinks fresh wolfs blood for breakfast.
Local – That’ll cost you an extra $200, MSNBC just offered me $1000 to tell them about the time she and I got drunk at made out at a church function after she was married to Todd. We didn’t but, they told me not to worry about that.
Reporter – All right, but you rubes are robbing us blind up here.
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/13/2008 @ 11:43 pm
daley
I’m certainly not bothered by her having political enemies. Heck, it is part and parcel of any kind of governing/managing/supervising job … if you are intent on doing a good job and hold others responsible, some are bound (for any number of reasons) to get their backs up and resent you. S.O.P.
Someone who has no enemies is a doormat.
Comment by Darleen — 9/14/2008 @ 12:07 am
Darleen – I agree, but there really is not much substance in that NY Times piece. Hey, let’s interview some folks who’ll say some bad stuff! Alrighty, then!
Of course people put supporters in key positions. Nothing wrong with that. The Clinton’s based their entire administration on doing it.
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/14/2008 @ 12:12 am
Hell, daley, the Clintons even left office doing it….the pardons….
Comment by reff — 9/14/2008 @ 12:37 am
“Anyway, CNN’s portrayals of Palin/Biden are on tonight and will probably be seen by more people.”
Goodness, what a maroon – does DD not even understand how media viewership basically drops off to nothing on Saturday nights, and that ABC’s broadcast was in primetime, which reached an audience hundreds of times larger than any time period during CNN’s broadcast day?
DD is rapidly becoming known for “dumber than dumb.”
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Comment by Dmac — 9/14/2008 @ 8:22 am
Too rich- can you say partisan witch hunt? The independent investigator in the Troopergate affair has to get approval from the dem who is in the tank for Obama? And the dude who actually ran the meeting being investigated can’t be called because there is no political will to do so, but it is ok to call everyone else? So the libs merely want a predetermined outcome to paint Palin as being a bad governor? Say it ain’t so. Naturally the various loons here would spin it to make the people who hate Palin (both GOP and dems) as the good guys. Let’s shine the light on the whole affair, including the brother in law who is such a saint in eyes of the partisan libs.
Comment by madmax333 — 9/14/2008 @ 8:44 am
Then she raises sales taxes (a most regressive tax) to pay for a relatively huge hockey rink where her son played like an ‘animal’ and eventually got thrown off every game…ah, that’s just a side issue…) town of 5 to 7 K, three times my town’s budget of same pop.
Do you know what an election is ?
It’s where people vote on issues like whether they want to build an new sports complex.
Have you ever been to Alaska ? Do you know anything about it ? Such as the fact that high school sports are the principal entertainment during the long winter ?
Of course you don’t you fool.
Comment by MIke K — 9/14/2008 @ 9:02 am
they had the trooper on last night. I agree he looks like a bad cop…but then he elaborated. Not as bad as a lot of cops imo.
hey, I already gave you guys some credit. But then you have to take a mile for every inch. Now McCain’s people are again using the Obama is a Muslim schitck, while the NYTimes fianally gets the truth about Sara’s book banning efforts: (a allegedly proHomosexual book called something like “my father’s roommate”.) So the truth about Republicans unfolds.
Comment by datadave — 9/14/2008 @ 9:04 am
datadave, which is it???
Obama as a Muslim, or as Aunt Jemima???
Or, is it just political satire, like Bill Maher???
You can’t have it both ways….you can’t have Bill Maher, or Randi Rhodes, and then complain when we have a Muslim President….
Comment by reff — 9/14/2008 @ 9:12 am
Who cares whether Bambi is a Muslim? It’s OK, however, to decry anyone who tries to make Bambi into a crypto-Islamist, but Palin’s religious beliefs? Fair game. Fire away! Crazy Pentacostal!
Really, consistency is a such a hob-goblin.
Comment by steve miller — 9/14/2008 @ 9:14 am
Obama won’t be putting high school chums in office, between domestic terrorists like William Ayers are first in line.
Comment by SPQR — 9/14/2008 @ 9:16 am
“McCain’s people”
HAHAHAHAHAHA
DD – Moron
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/14/2008 @ 9:16 am
It was Hillary’s people who floated the “Obama is a muslim” theme, Datadave.
Comment by SPQR — 9/14/2008 @ 9:17 am
Of course, I guess by Datadave’s standards, Randi Rhodes is “Obama’s people”.
Comment by SPQR — 9/14/2008 @ 9:18 am
Mike, give up the name-calling. Obama’s Illinois gets 22 dollars of earmark funding per person. How much does Alaska?…over 200 dollars per person. Who is the Earmark Queen?
I know all about the hockey thing. It’s the rich man’s sport of AK, while hoops are for the poorer towns. With all the Federal funding Wasilla got and the oil money and the Christian Fundamentalists from OK and Tx moving in there….and getting each li’l kiddo a whopping 3200 per year from the AK oil funded state govt, Wasilla’s mayor is the Welfare Queen of America. Now I can see the Yearning for Zion megafamily moving there soon.
The fact is AK lives off three main industries (military, oil, and too a lesser degree–fishing) and is a mostly urban state with nearly half the people living within the Anchorage metro area which is the warmer section of AK, Not like Fairbanks.
also, we of the lower 48 and Hawaii subsidize Alaska:
“Alaska has the lowest individual tax burden in the United States,[41] and is one of only five states with no state sales tax and one of seven states that do not levy an individual income tax. To finance state government operations, Alaska depends primarily on petroleum revenues and federal subsidies. The Department of Revenue Tax Division reports regularly on the state’s revenue sources. The Department also issues an annual overview of its operations, including new state laws that directly affect the tax division.”
Comment by datadave — 9/14/2008 @ 9:20 am
#63 daleyrocks:
Years ago, I saw that a wet T-shirt contest was being held at one of the local watering holes in Kodiak, and a number of the contestants were coming from out of town. (Mostly Southern California, in fact.)
In February.
Most of the bottom prizes had three zeroes in ‘em, IIRC…my point just being that things can get expensive up there.
Comment by EW1(SG) — 9/14/2008 @ 9:21 am
DD – What does gasoline cost per gallon in Alaska?
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/14/2008 @ 9:26 am
Crazy Pentacostal?
maybe someone else said that? Actually she’s apparently moderated her views and Evangelical is different than Fundamentalist. The dinosaur trope was long ago seen as an on-line joke. She’s gotta right to run. But we don’t have to vote for her either.
Really, she is a breath of fresh air for Republicans. She has to take the heat for such instant Celebrity. I just don’t like her environmental policies, but her cute glasses and spunkiness is ok for me. McCain needs her more than she needs him. I am wondering if her ambition is too great for her capacity? She did not ‘blink’. Who told her to keep using that line?
She’s the new Obama of the Right. Your Queen!
Comment by datadave — 9/14/2008 @ 9:27 am
Damn, datadave, I didn’t know Alaska had no FEDERAl income tax….I didn’t know they played as Americans for free….
Amazingly, however, I wonder why there is any reason to compare earmarks sent to any state with others…why???…because that is how states get their funding from the Feds….EVERY STATE gets earmarks….and they are NEVER fair or equal based upon either per capita, or per square mile, or per taxes paid by the population….it is always political….
Republicans are somewhat hopeful that might change in this election….of course, if Obama is elected, it won’t change….
And, there is that “welfare queen” thing again…like I said before….Gov. Palin got the oil companies to give more of their income to the state, and she returned that to the people, just like Obama says he wants to do with this “windfall” profits tax….
And idiots like you complain….WHY????…is it because she did it better than Obama could????
Damn, she’s good…..
Comment by reff — 9/14/2008 @ 9:29 am
DD – What kind of affordable housing deals did Obama push through the Illinois State Legislature for his developer buddies Allison Davis and Tony Rezko? Why does he keep claiming he never did anything for them when it’s clear he did?
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/14/2008 @ 9:29 am
You tell me. I am guessing maybe 5 to 6 a gallon. Even 8 a gallon sometimes. Big deal, there aren’t that many roads there and some atvs get 50 mpg. But Todd Palin makes over 90000 a year alone and his racing snow machine gets less than 10 mpg. Environmentalists? huh? How many SUVs and F350s they have? Several.
Remember, McCain called her his Green Candidate. Ok, I’ll revise it to green Queen-for-a-day.
Comment by datadave — 9/14/2008 @ 9:31 am
I suppose all the latte-sipping liberals from Stowe hike up to the mountains.
Oh wait. Wasting gas to drive to the mountains to ski is OK, but using gas on your own snowmobile is not.
It all makes sense somehow. Really.
Comment by steve miller — 9/14/2008 @ 9:33 am
reff, you’re sputtering. That’s ok, I don’t edit much ever.
Right now, though Alan Greenspan is complaining about McCain’s ridiculous tax policies and since his Queen to be is front and center of his campaign one has to assess Alaska’s special benefits as being a ward of the US Govt.
Comment by datadave — 9/14/2008 @ 9:34 am
The Feds own half of Alaska.
Nice that they’re being forced to pay their own way.
Comment by steve miller — 9/14/2008 @ 9:36 am
“Right now, though Alan Greenspan is complaining about McCain’s ridiculous tax policies”
DD – Remember Obama spokesperson and sometime reporter Andrea Mitchell has got him by the balls.
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/14/2008 @ 9:41 am
why does everybody know I live in Vermont? effing A! I spend a lot of time in upstate NY, CNY and Adks. A climate not much diff. than Anchorage. hey, I drive I admit about 18 K a year. A little above average I guess.
Actually stopped buying ski passes and do simple back country rambles in the woods mostly outside my door(s).
Heard skiing near Valdez in AK is awesome though.
I’ll be back sometime seeing how’s it going on the campaigns. My sister says our choices this year “suck”, but i didn’t think so ’til of late. I thought it was ‘win-win’, either McCain or Obama.
Comment by datadave — 9/14/2008 @ 9:43 am
Please remember that Greenspan was primarily responsible for the last economic bubble we had to undergo – and his wife is so in the tank for Bambi that it’s hard to tell where her left hand is sometimes during interviews with him. Not a credible source, you could say.
Comment by Dmac — 9/14/2008 @ 9:44 am
andrea mitchell liberal? She wouldn’t have merried him me thinks if she was….but maybe he likes her for intellectual stimulus. Alan Greenspan is Ayn Rand’s acolyte. Liberal?
Comment by datadave — 9/14/2008 @ 9:44 am
Let Greenspan bitch about McCain. Who do you think actually wears the pants in both the Obama and Greenspan households? Surely Andrea Mitchell has her own set of Chris Matthews endorsed Obamalamadingdong kneepads? Tell us how 95% will get tax cuts when nearly fifty percent already pay no income taxes. Don’t you think that top 5% will strive to minimize their own exposure? Bring on more class warfare. How many indepedents really give a dog turd that Berliners cheered for Obama?
Comment by madmax333 — 9/14/2008 @ 9:44 am
I have seen the “Crazy Pentacostal” meme repeated endlessly on leftist blogs.
As well as on comments on the NYT and WaPo sites.
And repeated in conversations at work and in e-mail threads.
So yeah, it’s out there.
I have had several women I respect send me the discredited Kilkenny letter & who tell me how Palin wants to charge women for rape kits. These are women that tell me “Palin can’t fool them – she’s a craven political choice to get women to vote for them” but who were wildly enthusiastic about Hillary because “women will vote for her because she’s a woman.” (Does this even make sense?)
It’s all of a piece. Crazy liberals want desperately to believe the worst about Palin. And so they do.
Are there crazy conservatives? Sure. But I’m free to call them both crazy, not deny it out of hand.
You have to admit, there is a lot of simply crazy conversation by Democrats who appear to be unhinged by Sarah Palin.
Comment by steve miller — 9/14/2008 @ 9:46 am
thx for the chat. later, my friends! (I channel my inner McCain there)
Comment by datadave — 9/14/2008 @ 9:47 am
yupp, I agree, steve miller.
Comment by datadave — 9/14/2008 @ 9:49 am
“…why does everybody know I live in Vermont?”
I don’t have any idea whether you do or not, but you sound an awful lot like the folks who live there these days. Need we remember the immortal Senator Bernie Sanders, or the excreable statements from millionnaire douchebags like Ben and Jerry? I’ve met native Vermonters who actually moved across the state line to NH, just to get away from the nutty politics and onerous tax rates and rampant socialism that have taken over that state. At least most Americans can recognize Alaska as a state somewhat akin to their own, but Vermont? Ahh, not really.
Comment by Dmac — 9/14/2008 @ 9:50 am
“why does everybody know I live in Vermont?”
DD – There is a high concentration of idiots like you in Vermont.
Comment by daleyrocks — 9/14/2008 @ 9:54 am
andrea mitchell liberal?
Does the Pope sh-t in the woods?
Comment by Dmac — 9/14/2008 @ 9:56 am
I’m still waiting for someone to put up a coherent defense of ABC’s editing of the Sarah Palin interview.
Comment by SPQR — 9/14/2008 @ 9:56 am
While I’m sputtering, you can’t even respond…
Cat got your tongue???
Comment by reff — 9/14/2008 @ 10:12 am
The federal government owns 69.1% of Alaska . . . 395,218 square miles; that’s only 5% smaller than California & Texas combined! The land area owned by the state of Alaska is larger than every other state (including their federally owned lands) except for Texas.
Comment by Icy Truth — 9/14/2008 @ 2:44 pm
Sorry for the repeat post (it’s in another thread), but I find this aspect of ABC’s manipulation fascinating:
Beyond the hack editing job, check out this film director’s discussion of how the very way the Gibson interview was filmed served to disparage Palin:
http://hollywoodtrenches.vox.com/library/post/make-smaller-telephoto.html
(linked through The Virginian)
Comment by Federal Dog — 9/14/2008 @ 2:49 pm
Federal Dog #101 – Have you passed this on to any other sites?
Comment by Apogee — 9/14/2008 @ 2:59 pm
Apogee #102:
No, I am drafting and filing a brief this week, so I am under the gun. Pass it on as you deem fit! I had not seen that aspect of the interview scrutinized before, so perhaps other people haven’t either.
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