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Sometimes I Wonder If Jack Shafer Lives in Bizarro-Land

Filed under: 2008 Election,General — Patterico @ 6:50 pm

Jack Shafer:

Without being smarmy about it or unfurling gotcha questions, ABC News anchor Charles Gibson demonstrated that he knows volumes more about national security and foreign policy than does Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

If you say so, Jack.

I frankly expressed my opinion of Gibson to my wife, not realizing that my children were within earshot. I found out they were, when my daughter Lauren asked my wife: “Mommy, what’s a ‘horse’s ass’?”

36 Responses to “Sometimes I Wonder If Jack Shafer Lives in Bizarro-Land”

  1. I thought he was pretty smarmy, like when he calls an answer that was barely twice as many words as his question “a blizzard of word”.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  2. Call it what it is: partisan bullshit.

    Icy Truth (c9b193)

  3. Well, he doesn’t know what the Bush Doctrine is.

    And he doesn’t know what she said in that church.

    Oh well, who cares about facts ?

    Mike K (2cf494)

  4. Smarmy? Why, because it’s true? More smarmy than her lies?

    Today John McCain said that Sarah Palin had never requested any earmarks as governor of Alaska..

    For the record Palin requested $197 million for 2009 and $256 million for 2008

    This is lunacy.

    JAR (6b0755)

  5. I thought you were banned.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  6. Oh em gee, jay eh are! It’s on the record, okay? For the guy who lives and dies by the link, surely even you can grasp that YOU would not have known about it unless it was on the record!

    Icy Truth (c9b193)

  7. Interesting news item from Obama’s hometown – on the local public affairs program here, the usually reliable fawning press corps was split on how big of a horse’s ass Gibson was. Half thought he was rude, condescending and pretty much an ignoramus -the others neutral, but said that Palin did quite well. If Bambi loses his homies, it’s over.

    Dmac (e639cc)

  8. It’s always nice when there’s a visual aid handy to help a child learn a new term.

    kenB (88b394)

  9. “Horse’s ass”?

    In my house the term was “pantload”. What a disgrace that was. On just about every question you could tell that they chopped off her answer in mid-sentence.

    Thanks, ABC “News”.

    Dave (d51df8)

  10. JAR – How do Palin’s earmarks compare to those before her? Baracky? Biden?

    JD (5f0e11)

  11. Darling Nikki – you are a vile little beast.


    JD (5f0e11)

  12. Oops, wrong thread. Change Nikki to JAR and it fits.

    JD (5f0e11)

  13. SP is going to get a lot worse treatment than the Gibson interview. In office, she’ll get the same kind of culture-wide calumny that Cheney and W get. Hopefully she has the fortitude to stand up to it as well as they do.

    gp (78ea4b)

  14. “JAR – How do Palin’s earmarks compare to those before her? Baracky? Biden?”

    I’ll quote someone else here, jackass:

    “Earmark factoid of the day.
    How much money would it take to provide earmarks for all Americans at the same rate that Sarah Palin bagged them for Wasila? On an annual basis?

    A mere half a trillion dollars.

    Exact number $422,302,519,152.”

    Alaska is a Federal Welfare State.

    “Just this year, she sent to Sen. Ted. Stevens, R-Alaska, a proposal for 31 earmarks totaling $197 million — more, per person, than any other state.”
    If you want to find that quote google it. And try to prove it wrong. You can’t. You fucking idiot.

    JAR (6b0755)

  15. If you thought it was wrong for others (I resemble that remark) to call you names, why do you think it’s alright for you to do it?

    Icy Truth (6b3828)

  16. “Alaska is a Federal Welfare State.”

    Bullshit JAR.

    Please explain how the earmarks are like welfare. Are they targeted at the poor, etc.

    How much of the state does the federal government own? Shouldn’t they help pay for it?

    This is too fuking easy.


    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  17. I can’t wait till the Democratic VP candidate gets grilled over an open fire as well. When is the Biden interrogation scheduled?

    Patricia (ee5c9d)

  18. daleyrocks —

    How much of the state does the federal government own? Shouldn’t they help pay for it?
    — According to the House of Representatives the US owns 69.1% of Alaska; that’s by far the highest acreage of any state, and second only to Nevada in percentage.

    This bears reprinting, for the tards among us:

    State of the State Address, Governor Sarah Palin, PRESENTED TO THE 25th Alaska Legislature, Second Regular Session, January 15, 2008:
    We can and must continue to develop our economy, because we cannot and must not rely so heavily on federal government earmarks. Instead, let us power up and produce for Alaska and America. We can do this – we’re 50 years old now, and it’s time!

    From the March, 2008 edition of Governor Palin’s “Putting Alaska First” newsletter; within a Q&A with John Katz, Director, Washington D.C. Office of the Governor:
    This year, President Bush and the Congressional leadership have said that the total dollar amount and number of earmarks must be reduced significantly. Recognizing the Constitutional authority of Congress to formulate the federal budget, Governor Palin has responded to this direction by reducing the total number of State earmark requests from 54 last year to 31 and from $550 million to less than $200 million.

    — There is no “con job” going on here; she talks the talk and walks the walk. She NEVER NEVER NEVER said that she wants all earmarks, every last one of them, eliminated. She has said that they need to be reduced AND she has worked to make that happen — period. No lies, no hypocrisy. They (Palin and McCain) are pledged to making things better. They don’t throw out pie-in-the-sky “we can make things perfect,” platitudes the way that Obama bin Biden do.

    Icy Truth (6b3828)

  19. JAR – calm down buddy. If you can

    These folks are going down in November. Save your strength, come back and taunt them a second time

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  20. And for the record – getting earmarks was part of her job. There is truly nothing wrong with her being successful at getting earmarks.

    McCain was mistaken in his statement there, but this is a non-issue

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  21. JAR – Did Palin get a multimillion dollar earmark for an institution employing Todd Palin and then have that institution kickback the money to her by doubling his salary?

    Have Blue (974cdf)

  22. tell ’em JAR, they just can’t take the truth.

    Palin deserves better than these crazed wing nuts. At least she shows grace under pressure. This is just a website and they can’t resist calling you worse than a pig with lipstick.

    Tod Palin? Jeesh, the guy works for the companies that are paying for all that welfare…which is charging US customers for those welfare checks all Alaskans get from Big Oil. Palin just raised it 1200 a year btw. No wonder she’s popular there, as she buys votes.

    datadave (eb12a5)

  23. Now what is so bad about ‘earmarks’? Some are bad, some are good….but if President McCain restricts them all he will have performed an Unconstitutional limitation of the rights of the Legislative Branch. The power of the purse will have been denied them and put into the Overpowered Executive Branch whos veto power and right to control what is one each bill is limited to only the Executive.

    The Hidden Agenda is thus: Coup similar to what Hugo Chavez tried in Venz. And ms. Palin is the excellent photogenic Vanna White alike meant to accrue the power of the purse to the Executive. Executive experience indeed? Restrict all civil service rights and fire all who are not on the team, (incl. cops and librarians)

    Goal is Permanent One Party State. (as expressed by Karl Rove and others a bit smarter than our darling prop from AK)

    Obama is playing in the past, McCain is looking beyond Nov. 3. IMO. And one has to marvel at how Obama has been played….he’s taken the Right Wing ball for national unity at any cost, 9/11 reactionary cowardness, cutting taxes (during wartime??), and down with ‘earmarks’ and played with it to the point I am not sure if there’d be any difference between a Obama or McCain presidency.

    I agree picking on Sarah is a waste of time, she’s clueless to what’s going on and is being used. She’s overworked, exuberantly so, and has no time to study the issues, not even for time to blink.

    datadave (eb12a5)

  24. DD – Are you and Jack having fun in Bizarro land? What’s the weather like?

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  25. DD once again proving he’s the true graduate from the school of “hard knockers.” OTOH, that comparison may not be entirely fair to actual hard knockers – at least they have some actual value in the real world. Not that “Dateless Dave” would have any knowledge about that part of a woman’s anatomy in the first place.

    Dmac (e639cc)

  26. You know, I rescind that last remark – DD probably got some minimal time viewing that part of a woman’s anatomy, during his time as the Fluffer on his recent contract job.

    Dmac (e639cc)

  27. Mayors across the state, from the larger cities to tiny municipalities along the southeastern fiords, are even more frustrated. Often, their letters go unanswered and their pleas ignored, records and interviews show.

    Last summer, Mayor Mark Begich of Anchorage, a Democrat, pressed Ms. Palin to meet with him because the state had failed to deliver money needed to operate city traffic lights. At one point, records show, state officials told him to just turn off a dozen of them.[!?] Ms. Palin agreed to meet with Mr. Begich when he threatened to go public with his anger, according to city officials.

    Gov. Sarah Palin lives by the maxim that all politics is local, not to mention personal.

    So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as one of her qualifications for running the roughly $2 million agency.

    Ms. Havemeister was one of at least five schoolmates Ms. Palin hired, often at salaries far exceeding their private sector wages.

    Continuing the Republican war on competence.

    JAR (6b0755)

  28. JAR, that’s amazing. The kind of stuff that you Obama supporters to find to criticize Palin about is completely hilarious. Vapid and insipid would be an improvement.

    And so far as a war on competence is concerned, the Democrats are still winning that one – given that Clinton’s appointment to Fannie Mae, Franklin Raines, is still having effect with the collapse of Fannie Mae.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  29. SPQR
    It didn’t begin with Freddie and Fannie kiddo.
    And it won’t end with WaMu and Lehman
    If want to talk then talk Glass-Steagall, and that means both Bill Clinton and Phil “A nation of whiners” Graham.
    Meet Nouriel Roubini
    Unlike you jackass, I’m not a hack. The democrats sold out to free market ideologues a long time ago.
    And look where it’s got us.

    JAR (6b0755)

  30. And here’s a simple explanation of the “Sub Prime” crisis.

    And it has the advantage of being absolutely hilarious.

    JAR (6b0755)

  31. JAR, actually you are a jackass. But more amusing is your ignorance. You still have no clue what is going on in the financial markets. The Fannie Mae debacle has nothing to do with the free market. Fannie Mae is a government creation – dating back in its predecessors to the New Deal. It does not fairly compete in the free market because of statutory advantages it has. And Raines’ tenure is what sunk Fannie Mae as he was the one that increased the amount of risk it took.

    By the way, since you like to pick on Palin’s choice of a Secretary of Agriculture, explain Dan Glickman’s qualifications to the run the national Dept of Agriculture in Bill Clinton’s administration. Was it his being a lawyer or his time working in the family scrap metal business?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  32. Glickman was a US Congressman representing the state of Kansas for 18 years prior to becoming Secretary of Agriculture

    JAR (6b0755)

  33. JAR, good refutation. I have to concede that one to you. Glickman obviously knew a lot about bull manure in that case and that made him qualified for running the Dept of Agriculture.

    Sheesh, JAR, you sure make it easy to show how incompetent you are.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  34. Continuing the Republican war on competence.

    Comment by JAR

    Well, if everyone is going to feed the troll, I’ll suggest that Republicans cannot teach Democrats anything about incompetence. They are experts, as California demonstrates.

    We suddenly have all these left wing experts on Alaska.

    Mike K (2cf494)

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