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	<title>Comments on: Holey Moley &#8212; L.A. Times Criticizes Gibson for Mischaracterizing Palin&#8217;s Prayer</title>
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		<title>By: Zach Garber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Garber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how WRONG the L.A. Times is. Quiz question: When did the Berlin Wall come down? It Started in November 1989, 9months after Reagan left office and Bush 41 was sworn in. 

In August 1989, Hungary removed its border restrictions with Austria. East German leader Erich Honecker resigned in October 1989. East Germans began their &quot;Peaceful Revolution&quot; in September 1989. In November 1989, refugees were permitted to exit directly through crossing points between East Germany and West Germany, including West Berlin. The Berlin Wall started to come down in early November 1989, with heavy equipment moving large sections before Christmas 1989. German reunification was reached formally on October 3, 1990.

Obviously, then, Bush 41 won the Cold War after 9 months in office, and officially reunified Germany in just 21 months. That&#039;s part of the reason he won re-election…um…well…wait a minute…  Given the above, how could the L.A. Times see it any other way than that Plain got it wrong and that Reagan didn&#039;t win the Cold War?!?!  Do the writers at the L.A. Times actually get paid for what they do? Maybe they are running a junior-high, writing internship program for 11 year-olds and I&#039;m just expecting too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how WRONG the L.A. Times is. Quiz question: When did the Berlin Wall come down? It Started in November 1989, 9months after Reagan left office and Bush 41 was sworn in. </p>
<p>In August 1989, Hungary removed its border restrictions with Austria. East German leader Erich Honecker resigned in October 1989. East Germans began their &#8220;Peaceful Revolution&#8221; in September 1989. In November 1989, refugees were permitted to exit directly through crossing points between East Germany and West Germany, including West Berlin. The Berlin Wall started to come down in early November 1989, with heavy equipment moving large sections before Christmas 1989. German reunification was reached formally on October 3, 1990.</p>
<p>Obviously, then, Bush 41 won the Cold War after 9 months in office, and officially reunified Germany in just 21 months. That&#8217;s part of the reason he won re-election…um…well…wait a minute…  Given the above, how could the L.A. Times see it any other way than that Plain got it wrong and that Reagan didn&#8217;t win the Cold War?!?!  Do the writers at the L.A. Times actually get paid for what they do? Maybe they are running a junior-high, writing internship program for 11 year-olds and I&#8217;m just expecting too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;m amazed the Times would catch that.  It was a subtle misquote from Gibson.  I had to read the original and his question a few times to see the difference.

He worked hard to trip her, but she did well.  I like how she turned one part around to ask what he meant by something.  It obviously flustered him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m amazed the Times would catch that.  It was a subtle misquote from Gibson.  I had to read the original and his question a few times to see the difference.</p>
<p>He worked hard to trip her, but she did well.  I like how she turned one part around to ask what he meant by something.  It obviously flustered him.</p>
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		<title>By: Icy Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icy Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was that &quot;Esquire&quot;? or &quot;Enquirer&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was that &#8220;Esquire&#8221;? or &#8220;Enquirer&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Ropelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ropelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A neighbor just came to my door to tell me the latest slime against Sarah Palin. He was positively aroused, with a sweaty glow on his face, as he recounted the news from Esquire that Palin was guilty of &quot;an affair with her boss,&quot; and of &quot;neglecting her family&quot; in persuit of a political career. He blamed Palin&#039;s ambition for her daughter&#039;s pregnancy. This is the same guy who wanted priggish Republicans to keep their puerile noses out of Bill Clinton&#039;s oval office dalliances.

I bit my tongue to keep from being rude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A neighbor just came to my door to tell me the latest slime against Sarah Palin. He was positively aroused, with a sweaty glow on his face, as he recounted the news from Esquire that Palin was guilty of &#8220;an affair with her boss,&#8221; and of &#8220;neglecting her family&#8221; in persuit of a political career. He blamed Palin&#8217;s ambition for her daughter&#8217;s pregnancy. This is the same guy who wanted priggish Republicans to keep their puerile noses out of Bill Clinton&#8217;s oval office dalliances.</p>
<p>I bit my tongue to keep from being rude.</p>
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		<title>By: Okie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Okie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that in the dead-tree edition the TV reporter Mary McNamara has a hostile Op-Ed printed in the “news” section along with the rest of the campaign articles.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.okieonthelam.com/?p=2310&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sarah Palin — Still Confusing The MSM After, Let’s See, Two Whole Weeks?&lt;/a&gt; This is how she starts: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Those hoping that Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin would burst into tears or start speaking in tongues during her interview with Charles Gibson were no doubt disappointed by the first part of her much heralded “first interview” on “ABC World News” Thursday and then in a slightly expanded form on “Nightline.” She did consistently mispronounce the word “nuclear;” but then so did Jimmy Carter, and so does George Bush, and they both became president.

It was a fascinating and unsettling interview nonetheless, first and foremost because it’s been nearly two weeks since Republican presidential nominee John McCain announced the Alaskan governor as his chosen running mate and these are the first non-scripted words the American people have heard from her.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is how she wraps it up:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Since when it is OK that the American people have to wait in breathless anticipation for its nominated candidates to speak to them en masse? Since when do we have to rely on a single interview, from a single source, to introduce us to a woman who claims she would be privileged to lead us?

In a world that is measured by milliseconds, a broken-up hour is too short to offer, a week is simply too long to wait. Such manipulation of a public moment is simple exploitation.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Someone needs to give that woman a paper bag before she hyperventilates into a coma!

I&#039;d cancel our subscription but the wife likes to read a paper in the AM and the cat box would get lonely, and damp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that in the dead-tree edition the TV reporter Mary McNamara has a hostile Op-Ed printed in the “news” section along with the rest of the campaign articles.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.okieonthelam.com/?p=2310" title="" rel="nofollow">Sarah Palin — Still Confusing The MSM After, Let’s See, Two Whole Weeks?</a> This is how she starts: </p>
<blockquote><p><i>Those hoping that Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin would burst into tears or start speaking in tongues during her interview with Charles Gibson were no doubt disappointed by the first part of her much heralded “first interview” on “ABC World News” Thursday and then in a slightly expanded form on “Nightline.” She did consistently mispronounce the word “nuclear;” but then so did Jimmy Carter, and so does George Bush, and they both became president.</p>
<p>It was a fascinating and unsettling interview nonetheless, first and foremost because it’s been nearly two weeks since Republican presidential nominee John McCain announced the Alaskan governor as his chosen running mate and these are the first non-scripted words the American people have heard from her.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>This is how she wraps it up:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Since when it is OK that the American people have to wait in breathless anticipation for its nominated candidates to speak to them en masse? Since when do we have to rely on a single interview, from a single source, to introduce us to a woman who claims she would be privileged to lead us?</p>
<p>In a world that is measured by milliseconds, a broken-up hour is too short to offer, a week is simply too long to wait. Such manipulation of a public moment is simple exploitation.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Someone needs to give that woman a paper bag before she hyperventilates into a coma!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d cancel our subscription but the wife likes to read a paper in the AM and the cat box would get lonely, and damp.</p>
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		<title>By: megapotamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>megapotamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s all cool. The important thing is, now that Palin is out there doing the do, Barry must also answer some hard questions. O&#039;Reilly was a big dissappointment but a beginning. Barry still needs to go on Hannity or stop whining about him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s all cool. The important thing is, now that Palin is out there doing the do, Barry must also answer some hard questions. O&#8217;Reilly was a big dissappointment but a beginning. Barry still needs to go on Hannity or stop whining about him.</p>
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		<title>By: rhodeymark</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhodeymark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LNS - thanks, but others came up with the &quot;present&quot; part, I just added the logical first part. Please, pass it around as the anti-meme!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LNS &#8211; thanks, but others came up with the &#8220;present&#8221; part, I just added the logical first part. Please, pass it around as the anti-meme!</p>
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		<title>By: Ropelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ropelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Jesus was a &quot;community organizer.&quot; Hummm, is that what Reverend Wright was teaching Obama when he was screaming &quot;God Damn America&quot; from the pulpit?

Yes, indeed, the Lord works in mysterious ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Jesus was a &#8220;community organizer.&#8221; Hummm, is that what Reverend Wright was teaching Obama when he was screaming &#8220;God Damn America&#8221; from the pulpit?</p>
<p>Yes, indeed, the Lord works in mysterious ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Attila (Pillage Idiot)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attila (Pillage Idiot)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by L.N. Smithee — 9/12/2008 @ 9:34 am 

Yeah, I guess we have to credit Bush 41 with winning the Cold War.  That&#039;s obviously what the LATimes must believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by L.N. Smithee — 9/12/2008 @ 9:34 am </p>
<p>Yeah, I guess we have to credit Bush 41 with winning the Cold War.  That&#8217;s obviously what the LATimes must believe.</p>
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		<title>By: L.N. Smithee</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.N. Smithee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rhodeymark wrote: &lt;i&gt;“Jesus was pro-life, Pontius Pilate voted “present”.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;EXCELLENT!  DID YOU THINK OF THAT?&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rhodeymark wrote: <i>“Jesus was pro-life, Pontius Pilate voted “present”.</i></p>
<p><b>EXCELLENT!  DID YOU THINK OF THAT?</b></p>
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