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9/7/2008

Gallup Says McCain Leads Obama 54-44 Among Likely Voters

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:05 pm



Holy cow.

I wonder what kind of play this will get in the papers tomorrow? Can anyone say “bare majority”?

UPDATE: Well, I suppose they could just ignore it entirely.

In any event, the electoral vote projections still aren’t pretty.

65 Responses to “Gallup Says McCain Leads Obama 54-44 Among Likely Voters”

  1. I guess Darrell would be among the 44 percent minority then?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  2. “A bare majority within the margin of error.”

    Paul (48f952)

  3. Don’t go celebrating too much. In 2004 just after the conventions the pollsters changed their samples to include more Republicans and fewer Democrats. Not surprisingly, there was a big bounce for Bush.

    Then they changed their samples back again, reducing the number of Republicans and increasing the number of Democrats, just after the first debate, leading to a bounce-back for Kerry.

    Before I took these poll bounces seriously, I’d want to read the fine print where they describe their stratified polling and compare that to their fine print from two weeks ago.

    Steven Den Beste (99cfa1)

  4. Makes me sick.

    We have a country full of imbeciles.

    Go figure. A president with a 25% approval rating and a candidate that votes with him 95% of the time. Seems schizophrenic to me. I guess just throw a completely unqualified jesus freak in as a running mate and viola, you win an early poll.

    jharp (ef54fc)

  5. jharp, you can’t get anything right, can you?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  6. Its funny how much jharp enjoys hanging out with imbeciles…must be our natural charm. :)

    (…and I think that would be Jesus freak).

    Dana (084de8)

  7. Go figure. A president with a 25% approval rating and a candidate that votes with him 95% of the time.

    Perhaps you’d prefer a candidate who sides less often with Bush and more often with the conservative base?

    aunursa (5daa82)

  8. Paul,

    It’s not within the margin of error.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  9. aunursa, jharp does not know what he wants, because he really has no clue, utterly ignorant about the most fundamental facts, about the issues he thinks are important.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  10. Not that facts will keep them from lying about it.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  11. We have a country full of imbeciles.

    Reminds me of the condescending U.K. Mirror headline, “HOW COULD 59 MILLION PEOPLE BE SO STUPID?”

    Wouldn’t be surprised if a November 5th headline went something like, “HOW COULD 60 MILLION PEOPLE BE SO RACIST?”

    aunursa (5daa82)

  12. It’s not within the margin of error.

    Patterico, I was sarcastically channeling the media with exaggeration.

    Paul (48f952)

  13. I can’t believe you guys are still even reading jharp’s comments let alone responding to him. Do you stop to have debates with winos on the street, too?

    nk (21731d)

  14. Obviously, 18 million voters weren’t counted.

    Ed (f35a20)

  15. Politico’s headline is “Final Score: Obama Takes the Lead” even though the polls mentioned in the article show McCain leading Obama.

    Wonder how they can spin it this way? Here’s how:

    6:06 p.m.: Final score: Obama pushes ahead

    With limited data points (both Barack Obama and John McCain were out of sight after leaving behind taped Sunday-show interviews), the win goes to the Obama campaign for having both Obama and Joe Biden out on the first weekend of the fall campaign, looking and sounding chipper and confident.

    Gov. Sarah Palin was missing, feeding the narrative that she was unprepared. (On “Meet the Press,” Biden called her “sequestered.”) By afternoon, sources said she had agreed to sit down with Charles Gibson, anchor of ABC’s “World News Tonight” – probably next week when she’s home in Alaska.

    Also, this could be a rough week for McCain: Bob Woodward’s new book about the Iraq “surge” policy is out Monday, and the saturation coverage that accompanies a Woodward release is likely to thrust President Bush into the news and revisit machinations about the war that Team McCain would probably rather have voters forget. However, the book shows McCain being critical of the White House, so maybe it will be a wash.

    DRJ (7568a2)

  16. Patterico, I was sarcastically channeling the media with exaggeration.

    I thought maybe you were, but I didn’t want anyone to be misled.

    It’s a +-3 margin of error.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  17. “Reminds me of the condescending U.K. Mirror headline, “HOW COULD 59 MILLION PEOPLE BE SO STUPID?”

    A classic.

    And pretty much how the rest of the world views us.

    You knuckledraggers ought to get out more. There is a pretty big world out there that is doing just fine while we struggle with home foreclosures, deficits, gas prices, health care costs, etc.

    (and I’m aware gas prices are as high or higher elsewhere but before one of you neanderthals gets too excited what matters is how much you spend on gas, not the price per gallon.)

    jharp (ef54fc)

  18. Oh, I forgot.

    Thanks to all for the insults.

    It very clearly shows you have got no rebuttals.

    jharp (ef54fc)

  19. Great Britain’s doing fine? In forty years Europe will be under Sharia law.

    aunursa (5daa82)

  20. DRJ, I can’t help but think it will also be a difficult week for Mrs. Palin as her son leaves for Iraq. It would be nice if the media would be merciful in regard to this but of course, they won’t.

    Hopefully, if during her interview w/Gipson the subject comes up and she gets teary eyed, she will understand that although the MSM feels a sick obligation to rip her apart for appearing weak, those of us in the real world would have nothing but sympathy. And, we are the people who matter.

    Dana (084de8)

  21. One thing the pollsters are going to have to do as they shift to “likely” voter polls — which is pretty much all we should see from now to election day — is the account for the narrowing of the “enthusiasm gap”. Palin’s pick and speech makes social conservatives more likely to turnout and vote for McCain. This might very well account for the sudden “pop” in McCain’s polling above 50%. Notice that in this poll Obama has only dropped 3-4% from the high 40’s where he has been for several weeks. But suddenly McCain has a 12 point surge.

    WLS (969303)

  22. This kinda confirms why there’s panic in Camp Messiah and on the left side of the intartubes – witness jharp, ila, Peter, Geno, JAR, and all the drive by turd droppers.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  23. Home forclosures: Democrat Congress rules that forced mortgage companies to make risky loans, and now a Democrat bailout that has raised the deficit by having a bailout worth $300 BILLION.

    Gas prices: Democrat environmental policies which have DECREASED the amount of oil taken from U.S. leases, forcing more imported oil, while at the same time Democrat environmental polities which have stopped both Nuclear Power and oil refineries from being developed in the past 30 years, increasing again the amount of imported oil, which by the free market increases demand, which increases prices.

    Health care costs: Democrat policies beginning in the 1950’s which has both discouraged the free market solutions and increased the requirements for those who CHOOSE NOT TO GET HEALTH INSURANCE to be subsidized by those who do.

    Deficits: see the Democrat policy above that increased the deficit just this year in the mortgage bailout, and add to that the Democrat stimulus package that added a DIRECT $156 BILLION TO THE DEFICIT JUST THIS YEAR.

    Now, I’m not so sure that the Republicans have done any better job in the past 8 years in holding down spending, but I do know that there has been a 19% growth in the taxes collected by the government in the past 8 years, so, something was done correctly (BUSH TAX CUTS WORKED) while nothing was done to stem spending, which increased even more….

    But, I can hope that McCain/Palin might cut spending….I KNOW THAT OBAMA/BIDEN WILL NOT CUT, BUT WILL INCREASE, BOTH SPENDING AND TAXATION….

    reff (b68a4f)

  24. jharp…#23 is your rebuttal….you idiot….

    reff (b68a4f)

  25. There are a lot of polls, and den Beste’s point is well-taken. I tend to watch only the 3-day polls from Gallup and Rasmussen, which have been consistent and avoid wild swings.

    Or at least have until now: both polls show a 3 day swing toward McCain: Gallup ahs it a 10-point swing, Rasmussen has McCain gaining 5.

    This is largely due to Palin and McCain’s speeches at the convention, as they disproved the slanders and wishful reporting that passes for news these days.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  26. Prediction: McCain-Palin by 8 points and 37 states.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  27. jharp:

    You knuckledraggers ought to get out more. . . . before one of you neanderthals gets too excited . . .

    His very next comment:

    Thanks to all for the insults.

    It very clearly shows you have got no rebuttals.

    And thanks to you!

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  28. “This kinda confirms why there’s panic in Camp Messiah and on the left side of the intartubes – witness jharp,”

    I would say disgust is a better word.

    To be honest it really doesn’t affect me much. I’m old. Make a nice living. No debt.

    Just hoping to not leave my kids with GOP size deficits to pay for.

    Though I am quite sure with retards like you folks out ther my kids will do just fine.

    A two year governor of a 600,000 population state previously a mayor of a 9,000 citizen town.]

    But she made it clear the Iraq war was a mission from god. And she’s anti choice.

    Good enough for dumbass Americans to reflect a bounce in the polls.

    Way way too many snake handlers in this country.

    jharp (ef54fc)

  29. Anyone care to ask Jharp what the Dem controlled congress’ approval rating is? Bet he doesn’t know cause that wasn’t in the TPM he got.

    Patrick (ad8c94)

  30. Though I am quite sure with retards like you folks out ther my kids will do just fine.

    . . . .

    Good enough for dumbass Americans to reflect a bounce in the polls.

    Uh, jharp?

    Thanks for the insults!

    It very clearly shows you have no rebuttal.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  31. To paraphrase a previous American Ambassador to the U.N., when McCain/Palin win, we will all go down to the docks/airport and wave a fond fare-well as you depart for more friendly climes.
    And then, PAAAARRRR-TTTEEEEE!

    Another Drew (b60e19)

  32. 28 ~

    my kids

    You got kids?!?

    Well, I guess there is a viable argument to be made for state sponsored child care after all.

    EW1(SG) (84e813)

  33. Even taking the USAT/Gallup LV numbers as an outlier, look at the chart for the RCP average. Not the red and blue lines, but the grey chart below them of the gap between the candidates. With the exeption of the World Tour and the Democratic Convention, BO has been trending downward since late June. Mostly because BO started acting like a regular pol instead of a new kind of pol. Partly because the MSM gave him fairer (less gushing) coverage. Partly because McCain forced Obama to go on the World Tour and highlight his weaknesses, while setting up McCain’s “celebrity” attack. Partly because the GOP pro-drilling position started driving down oil futures.

    The point is that this is not a new trend. It is the long-term trend. Regardless of the USAT/Gallup poll, BO needs his own game-changer.

    Karl (1b4668)

  34. I’m pretty sure the headlines tomorrow will be “Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Bankrupt” and Bush blamed.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  35. One of the better things about Internet posts is that jharp’s spittle hits his own screen, not mine.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  36. Uh, jharp?

    Thanks for the insults!

    It very clearly shows you have no rebuttal.

    Comment by Patterico

    Not sure what I was to rebut. Wasn’t responding to any particular assertion but would be glad to if it came up.

    And by the way Mr. Patterico, what has George Bush and the GOP done for YOU and your family?

    And no need to mention the $ 4 trillion in debt they have left for your kids.

    jharp (ef54fc)

  37. I think I just threw up in my mouth. The ship is sinking. We’re doomed.

    You conservatives have won again, despite the entirety of the MSM being biased against you. Despite the anti-life Left’s lies and distortions and smear jobs. Despite my own feeble, petty machinations to help destroy truth and valor and country at every turn.

    Gah! It burns me so! It burns like a white-hot dagger thrust into my tiny, demasculated heart — to see my slimy, jealous lust for state-sponsored power over wholesome heartlanders and rock-ribbed libertarians thwarted yet again!

    To think that it seemed so close to reality not so long ago, that it seemed actually possible that I — I, a loathesome, effeminate leftard — might soon have my foul way with the innocent body politic of a proud nation fallen to Obama’s silver-tongued promises!

    And we would have gotten away with it, if it wasn’t for you patriotic kids! Once again, just as we on the Hate America left thought our dastardly goals were within sight, you shone your glorious light of truth and courage and strength upon our evil plans, banishing us back into the darkness from which we came!

    So damn you! Damn you all to hell, you glorious, gorgeous specimens of vigorous American exceptionalism!

    D. Aristophanes (18e167)

  38. A two year governor of a 600,000 population state

    What’s the population of Delaware, genius?

    And I’ll go on the record saying that Governor of a state is a MUCH tougher job than US Senator. Unless you have evidence that casting one vote among 100 is harder than administrating a budget and thousands of employees.

    Steverino (1dda08)

  39. D.A. IS Randy Andy!

    Another Drew (b60e19)

  40. And then there is also this to consider,
    However, in an analysis of the impact of political conventions since 1960, Sabato concluded that post-convention polls signal the election’s outcome only about half the time. “You could flip a coin and be about as predictive,” he says. “It is really surprising how quickly convention memories fade.”
    But let me not ruin this moment for y’all.

    love2008 (1b037c)

  41. Sabato concluded that post-convention polls signal the election’s outcome only about half the time.

    That’s better odds than was given for the McCain campaign two weeks ago. Much better odds.

    aunursa (5daa82)

  42. It would be interesting to know the distribution of his “half the time”. Was the outcome confirmed by the post-convention polling when it showed the Dems winning, or losing, or was it 50/50 in both?

    If the Post-Convention Polling showed the GOP winning, and they did; and it showed the Dems leading, and they lost; then, would it not be 50/50?

    Another Drew (b60e19)

  43. steverino,

    Do you not see the difference between being a UNITED STATES SENATOR for 30 years and sitting on the SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS committee and being a governor for 18 months of a redneck backwards outpost.

    I think you’ve made it clear the mistake the democrats have made for the past 20.

    They need to go after the uneducated, redneck, toothless, bible banging, live poor and vote rich group.

    I’ll will have to admit. The GOPers have done pretty well at it.

    jharp (ef54fc)

  44. jharp, you keep talking about a “$4 Trillion” debt that Bush has left….

    Yet, the government’s own statistics say that the entire national debt is “$9.5 Trillion,” and that the largest national deficit is the current one, at $389 Billion, up from $167 Billion in 2007. So, even if you took the largest, at $389 Billion, and multiplied it by 8 for the number of years of the Bush Presidency, you would only get to $3 Trillion.

    Please site your numbers and their sources, so that we can verify.

    As for rebuttals, I made one for you at #23, but, you’ve ignored it, so, yes, Patterico was right, you have no rebuttal.

    Federal deficit

    reff (b68a4f)

  45. Oh, jharp…

    The current debt is only 3.3 percent of the GNP, which is down from a high of 6.3 percent of the GNP in 1983. Since the current debt is much lower than then, and while it is not good for any debt, the one we have is still better than it was 25 years ago, in part because of the Bush Tax Cuts, which increased income to the Fed Treasury.

    reff (b68a4f)

  46. There’s one of those comedy guys here in this thread. Weird, though: he’s not so funny.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  47. This poll has a major sampling error – it neither polled dead Democrats, nor Democrats who vote early and often.

    Perfect Sense (9d1b08)

  48. Palin has certainly added a certain zeal to the GOP, but polls are rarely accurate and it’s just too soon to tell. Funny though, I remember hearing about McCain wanting to pick Lieberman for VP, but ducked out when delegates and advisors told him no. Some maverick…
    Also, research on Palin not looking so favorably on her judgement. Originally supported bridge to nowhere and ducked out when national opinion changed. Hmm…some mavericks you got there GOP.

    independent (00272c)

  49. The current debt is only 3.3 percent of the GNP, which is down from a high of 6.3 percent of the GNP in 1983.

    The current debt is roughly 64% of GDP.

    You confused deficit and debt.

    steve (91660a)

  50. Do you not see the difference between being a UNITED STATES SENATOR for 30 years and sitting on the SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS committee and being a governor for 18 months of a redneck backwards outpost.

    I don’t see much of a difference between being the Senator from a small state and a Governor from a small one. Except for the fact that the Governor has to administrate a budget and staff orders of magnitude larger than a Senator’s.

    Since most states limit the terms of their Governors, and something like 98% of Congress gets reelected every couple of years, I don’t think it’s amazing that anyone would serve as Senator for a long time if he wished to.

    If you think the Governor of Alaska doesn’t deal with foreign countries, you’ve got another think coming.

    Steverino (1dda08)

  51. “I’m old”

    It’s dementia is what splains it.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  52. Steve, I heartily accept your correction….I’m not the smartest economist, so, thanks…

    reff (b68a4f)

  53. but polls are rarely accurate and it’s just too soon to tell

    It’s funny how important polls were to the Obamanauts when McCain was trailing…now polls are inaccurate and it’s just too soon to tell.

    Does it hurt your feet walking both sides of the street?

    Steverino (1dda08)

  54. jharp –

    Makes me sick.
    — What does? the smell of victory?

    We have a country full of imbeciles.
    — And here we thought you were one of those care-for-the-little-guy liberals. Turns out you’re just another the-rabble-needs-a-nanny Marxist.

    Go figure.
    — Go fuck your mothe– Huh? What do you mean, “that’s rude”?
    Oh, all right.

    DON’T go do that.

    A president with a 25% approval rating and a candidate that votes with him 95% of the time. Seems schizophrenic to me.
    — Multiple choice response:
    A) Seems repititious to us. Get some new writers.
    B) “You, you, you, you, you — you oughta know!”
    C) We often feel that we are eavesdropping on a conversation between you and . . . ‘other’ you.

    I guess just throw a completely unqualified jesus freak in as a running mate and viola, you win an early poll.
    — Better that than a completely unqualified Stalin freak with a running mate who could sell advertising space on his forehead (and that’s with the ‘plugs’)!

    And pretty much how the rest of the world views us.
    — What the hell is it? We’re the neglected child, and the rest of the world is the father we are desperately trying to impress?

    You knuckledraggers ought to get out more.
    — Why? You’re out there.

    There is a pretty big world out there that is doing just fine while we struggle with home foreclosures, deficits, gas prices, health care costs, etc.
    — What about irrelevance and bullshit? Don’t forget to add those to your list.

    and I’m aware gas prices are as high or higher elsewhere but before one of you neanderthals gets too excited what matters is how much you spend on gas, not the price per gallon.
    — That’s right. They are not paying too much because their countries are smaller and they don’t drive as much. Brilliant!

    Thanks to all for the insults.
    — No thanks necessary. Tard-trashing is the stock in trade ’round here.

    It very clearly shows you have got no rebuttals.
    — No, it shows that rebuttals can be substantive and stinging at the same time.

    I would say disgust is a better word.
    — If we’re speaking of your posts, disgorge seems appropriate.

    To be honest it really doesn’t affect me much. I’m old. Make a nice living. No debt.
    — Capitalism works. Who’d a thunk it?

    Just hoping to not leave my kids with GOP size deficits to pay for.
    — Of course, it’s much better to pay for other people’s entitlements.

    Though I am quite sure with retards like you folks out ther my kids will do just fine.
    — By preserving the non-Socialist state, you bet we will!

    A two year governor of a 600,000 population state previously a mayor of a 9,000 citizen town.]
    — Did you know that it has been an entire week since that was the lame-ass talking point of the day?

    But she made it clear the Iraq war was a mission from god. And she’s anti choice.
    — But pro-hyphen!

    Good enough for dumbass Americans to reflect a bounce in the polls.
    — Another “we’re too stupid to be trusted with deciding our own fate” anti-democracy comment.

    Way way too many snake handlers in this country.
    — And not enough butterfly collectors.

    Do you not see the difference between being a UNITED STATES SENATOR for 30 years and sitting on the SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS committee and being a governor for 18 months of a redneck backwards outpost.
    — I do see. You don’t hate America, just selected parts of it. Is it possible that those parts are all colored red?

    I think you’ve made it clear the mistake the democrats have made for the past 20.
    — 20? More like 120.

    They need to go after the uneducated, redneck, toothless, bible banging, live poor and vote rich group.
    — I’d hate to see what you’d write if you weren’t one of the enlightened ones that no longer divides their fellow humans into groups based on characteristics.

    I’ll will have to admit.
    — If you will not admit, you will have to quit.

    The GOPers have done pretty well at it.
    — Was that you peeping in the bedroom window?

    Icy Truth (a1fb87)

  55. But she made it clear the Iraq war was a mission from god.

    If you read the whole quote, rather than the Dowdified half passed around by the left, it’s clear that’s not at all what she was saying.

    Rob Crawford (6c262f)

  56. Harpy:

    Makes me sick.

    With all due respect, sicko, you make you sick. No polling numbers can account for that.

    We have a country full of imbeciles.

    Please, please join the Obama campaign, and repeat that line as loudly and as often as possible. Not only are we a nation of imbeciles, many of us are such imbecilic imbeciles that we don’t even like being called imbeciles, and tend to vote for their opponents instead. Gawd, we’re dumb.

    Go figure. A president with a 25% approval rating

    Maybe, but only because we’re a nation of imbeciles. If we were smarter and had longer memories, I’m sure his approval ratings would be much higher, though I’m not sure Congress’s would be.

    and a candidate that votes with him 95% of the time.

    In one year, sure, but in other years it’s been much lower. In 2007 it was 77%, and for any given year, roughly 40% of that is a freebie.

    Seems schizophrenic to me.

    I don’t think the word “schizophrenic” means what you think it means, but that’s neither here nor there. There’s nothing odd about a semi-conservative Republican who usually votes Republican but often doesn’t polling better than a knee-jerk liberal Democrat who never, ever bucks his party. Funny how quick you harpies are to harp on Bush’s low approval ratings while ignoring the Democrat Congress’s even lower ones.

    I guess just throw a completely unqualified jesus freak in as a running mate and viola, you win an early poll.

    And a free viola, to boot!

    You knuckledraggers ought to get out more. There is a pretty big world out there that is doing just fine while we struggle with home foreclosures, deficits, gas prices, health care costs, etc. (and I’m aware gas prices are as high or higher elsewhere but before one of you neanderthals gets too excited what matters is how much you spend on gas, not the price per gallon.)

    “Doing just fine” means getting used to a lower standard of living than Americans take for granted. If our rate of home ownership were as low as the other countries you think are “doing just fine,” we either never would have had the real estate bubble in the first place, or its impact would have been felt only by investors if we did. If our rate of car ownership were as low, the only cars we owned were those piddly European ones that are barely larger than their occupants, and even those cars were rarely driven long distances, then sure, we might could spend less money on gas despite paying the astronomical prices they pay. But given a choice between “doing just fine” as Spartans vs. living better, most Americans opt for the latter rather than the former, nation of imbeciles that we are.

    Xrlq (b71926)

  57. You are too kind, Xrlq.

    JD (75f5c3)

  58. But given a choice between “doing just fine” as Spartans vs. living better, most Americans opt for the latter rather than the former, nation of imbeciles that we are.

    Wait, I thought Leonidas and his brave 300 were the model we were supposed to aspire to …?

    D. Aristophanes (18e167)

  59. Go figure. A president with a 25% approval rating and a candidate that votes with him 95% of the time

    Mmmm-hmmmm…

    I won’t even bother to correct your numbers. There just isn’t any point…

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  60. I just wanted to give a big shout out to people like jharp who make poll results like this possible.

    Thanks for helping, moron!

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  61. daleyrocks – They are the very definition of useful idiots, no?

    JD (75f5c3)

  62. More on National Debt v GDP…
    As steve mentions above, the current debt is approx 64% of GDP.
    The low in the Post WW-2 is about 1981 (reading charts without a graphed x-y axis is hard) when the debt was 30-35% of GDP.
    In 1950, the debt was 90% of GDP.
    As I recall from a previous discussion, in 1945, the debt was, at a min, 125% of GDP, and probably was much higher (my memory is a little fuzzy on the exact numbers).

    Interestingly, during all of this time, 1950-current, the debt has not gone down, but the GDP has expanded exponentially.

    So, it seems, that the debt/deficit levels that we are experiencing now, are very manageable.

    BTW, how does your mortgage relate to your gross income? What percentage of your “GDP” does it represent? And, you’re not worried?

    Another Drew (e0c2ef)

  63. Kevin @ #34…
    Fan & Fred are bankrupt, or, at least in receivership.
    And, last time I checked, GWB did not appoint one member of the Board of Directors of either organization (it seems a large portion of both boards were affirmative actions hires ex-Clinton cronies/staffers – many with close ties to Obama/Biden & the Cong. leadership).

    But, the good news: The sun came up this morning (except in SoCal which has some June-Gloom), and the NYSE is up 200+ points.

    Another Drew (e0c2ef)

  64. We have a country full of imbeciles.

    Aren’t you the cretin who said the Supreme Court decision on Washington DC’s handgun ban had nothing to do with the right to own firearms?

    Gerald A (ebb8b5)

  65. Clearly, beyond any possibility of error or doubt, Governor Sarah Palin has nothing at all to do with the recent apparent increase in support for McCain, nothing at all!

    The obviously temporary, barely noticeable, and meaningless bump in numbers simply reflect a near universal rejection of Talkin’ Joe Biden as Obama’s VP. It’s true, I have it on impeccable authority.

    The cynical selection of Biden to lend an aura of foreign policy experience to the Dem’s obviously unqualified candidate only serves to demonstrate Obama’s inexperience in national politics, lack of judgement, and his contempt for the angry lemmings who march in his parade.

    So, put on a happy face and get on with the ugly business of trashing a real woman, one who loves her husband, has managed to balance family and career, one who has proved herself a success without help from so-called “liberals” and “progressives,” and one who’s very existence scares the livin’ bejesus out of moonbats everywhere.

    Sure it’s a dirty and thankless job, not to mention the psychological costs of betraying the very principles which have, in the past (don’t look back), defined and animated the very concept of Democrat self-identity. But, Obama can’t be elected unless Dems join together to rid the political marketplace of this unconvenient upstart who doesn’t even pretend to swallow Obama’s hogwash, the filthy unbeliever.

    So, onward and upward, join hands and turn your backs on everything you hold good, honest and true. The future belongs to you, but you have to march over the dead body of Sarah Palin to get there.

    Ropelight (49e412)


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