Biden, Bayh on Short-list for Obama VP
[Guest post by DRJ]
Media sources, including CNN and the New York Times’ The Caucus, speculate that Delaware Senator Joseph Biden and Indiana Senator Evan Bayh have made the final cut for Obama’s Vice President.
That would be a Senator-heavy ticket with limited executive experience but Biden has a foreign policy background and Bayh adds … I don’t know what Bayh adds but he shouldn’t hurt the ticket and he might appeal to moderates and Midwestern voters.
I don’t see how Biden or Bayh would help with Hillary’s disaffected women voters and they don’t appeal to me but, of course, I’m not a Democrat.
— DRJ
Well, Slow-Joe will cement the hair-plug set.
Another Drew (249078) — 8/14/2008 @ 5:57 pmBiden never shuts up – the man just talks and talks on the news shows – Obama’s people may have to muzzle him, says some fairly silly things at times.
Dmac (874677) — 8/14/2008 @ 6:00 pmBayh re-emphasizes the young, good looking image that will serve to contrast McCain’s elderly status.
He would also be seen as a more moderate influence on overall policy than other Dems.
I also believe he delivers Indiana, which is a takeaway.
Ed (841b4a) — 8/14/2008 @ 6:01 pmBiden on the short list? What kind of joke do the Obama campaign think they are pulling on the media? Britany Spears would be a more intelligent running mate for The One.
SPQR (26be8b) — 8/14/2008 @ 6:24 pmMaybe Obama liked it when Biden called him “clean and articulate”.
Icy Truth (e52465) — 8/14/2008 @ 6:32 pmLyin’ Joe did recognize that Obama is a clean-cut magic negro at least. It would be a balanced ticket with Biden’s alleged foreign policy gravitas and both are experienced plagiarists.
From what moonbats I run into around south Florida, most are unaware of all the dirty laundry in Big Zero’s hamper or deny he has any flaws/Bush= McCain.
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 8/14/2008 @ 6:32 pmBaracky is spending money in Indiana like he thinks it is in play. Maybe Bayh could put it in play.
JD (5f0e11) — 8/14/2008 @ 6:48 pmIs there a chance that Hillary might still be in that list? Maybe they want to make it a surprise. Won’t be surprised. That woman knows how to get what she wants.
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 8/14/2008 @ 7:06 pmHillary on the VP list? The ultimate patronizing move? (Here you go, sweetie; you can be second-best.) Bill affecting policy decisions? Bill effectively casting the tie-breaking vote in the Senate? Sharing the spotlight with someone that high-profile?
Well, he does need someone who’s willing and able to be the bad guy.
Icy Truth (e52465) — 8/14/2008 @ 7:24 pmYou have to be suffering some serious mental problems to be a democrat these days. Visit an insane asylum and the only people who understands the inmates is another inmate, just like the anti-american democrat party. If the whacko Dr’s could figure them out they might have a chance of curing them.
Scrapiron (d671ab) — 8/14/2008 @ 7:25 pm#9
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 8/14/2008 @ 7:38 pmIf it’s not Hillary, I am putting my bet on Bayh. He fits the profile and is able to cover some of those “Obamaholes”. (Has anyone noticed how he looks so much like John Edwards, with that hair?)
JMCO.
Love2008,
I don’t think Hillary has ever been on Obama’s list and she won’t be unless Obama believes he can’t win without her. And I doubt he will ever think that.
DRJ (a5243f) — 8/14/2008 @ 7:42 pmBiden on the short list? What kind of joke do the Obama campaign think they are pulling on the media?
Anon (db8e0c) — 8/14/2008 @ 7:55 pmThis hate from the right is disgusting. Joe Biden is a brilliant if not crucial pick for Obama in his quest to become President. It’s one I wholeheartedly support and anybody who cannot see this is clearly blinded by partisan rage.
#12
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 8/14/2008 @ 7:56 pmIt would have been nice to see Hillary on that ticket. Maybe all the fear about one overshadowing the other was just baseless. (shrugs) Guess we will never know.
But DRJ, in your post, you seem to be betting on Biden more than Bayh. Why do you think Biden won’t harm Obama more than Bayh? Not that you said that Bayh was a harmful choice. Why Biden?
Anon, that’s amusing “brilliant” … ROFL.
SPQR (26be8b) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:01 pmComment by SPQR — 8/14/2008 @ 8:01 pm
It’s true, and I think all on the right should do more to show they are not blind partisans, but thinking individuals. They should make it clear to Obama that appealing to moderates and the other side is not a futile gesture, but something that can be accomplished and can best be accomplished with a man of Biden’s extensive experience and appeal.
Anon (db8e0c) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:07 pmRosary Joe Biden would be a great pick. Campaign stops at Dunkin Donuts where he could insult the ethnic heritage of the proprietors, plagiarized stump speeches, the return of the Iraq partition plan, toss the No-Doz in the trash folks.
Bring on Biden!!!!!!!
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:21 pmOOps, I’m having an MIB moment here…
All Hail Joe…All Hail Joe…
Another Drew (249078) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:22 pm#16
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:25 pmAnon. I am really interested to know more about Joe Biden. Don’t stop. You are making some sense.
Rosary Joe Biden would be a great pick. Campaign stops at Dunkin Donuts where he could insult the ethnic heritage of the proprietors, plagiarized stump speeches, the return of the Iraq partition plan
That’s merely a derogatory code for saying he would appeal to Hillary supporters. We can discuss this man in a more respectful manner, daleyrocks, and I really would have expected better of you.
Anon (db8e0c) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:25 pmNo, that is an accurate portrayal of Joe Biden’s history, and has nothing to do with the Empress from New York.
Another Drew (249078) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:27 pmlove2008,
I think Hillary would have been Obama’s strongest pick because it would unify the Democratic Party, but I don’t think Obama wants to govern with Hillary/Bill and I don’t think Hillary will accept 2nd place at this point in her life.
As for Bayh, Biden – I didn’t mean to imply a preference or a guess because I don’t have any idea who Obama will pick. I take him at his word that he wants to firm up his chances in Colorado, Indiana, and Virginia, which (to me) makes Bayh and Kaine the betting man’s picks.
However, Biden gives Obama “gravitas” on foreign policy that will appeal to the media without overshadowing Obama. I see Biden as Obama’s Lloyd Bentsen pick, except Biden has more baggage than Bentsen had. Of course, Obama has so much baggage I don’t think any more baggage will bother him.
DRJ (a5243f) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:29 pmUmm. Bayh was governor of Indiana — so that’s quite a bit more executive experience than McCain.
Correct Patsy (4a834f) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:30 pmAnon – There is nothing innaccurate in what I said above about Biden. Try again.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:30 pmGood point, Correct Patsy. That shows how ignorant I am on Bayh. On the other hand, I think he’s an unknown to a lot of people.
DRJ (a5243f) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:31 pmNo, that is an accurate portrayal of Joe Biden’s history,
And it’s also an accurate portrayal of America, which is why (just like with the Reverend Wright) Obama needs to show he won’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Biden has flaws, but he shows that a man who has more in common with the average Hillary supporter is not anathema to Barack Obama. He can support Obama and, likewise Obama supports him.
Anon (db8e0c) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:34 pmLet me chance a prediction. Obama/Bayh against McCain/Romney. Anyone?
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 8/14/2008 @ 8:47 pmAlright, guys, you realize I’m kidding right?
Anon (db8e0c) — 8/14/2008 @ 9:09 pmAnon – Why do you hate Hillary?
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 8/14/2008 @ 9:12 pmM.R. vs. O.B.
On initials alone . . .
Icy Truth (e52465) — 8/14/2008 @ 9:15 pmThat’s why it should be Obama-Kaine.
O-K.
DRJ (a5243f) — 8/14/2008 @ 9:28 pmBiden, yeah that’s the ticket.
vnjagvet (d3d48a) — 8/14/2008 @ 9:44 pmYeah, but the O.C. is hip. It is still hip; right?
Icy Truth (9e8038) — 8/14/2008 @ 10:10 pmI would be very surprised at a Hillary pick. Besides all the problems listed already, were BO to win with her as VP, she would open herself up to all the ridicule and scrutiny (especially with Bill around) and none of the buck stopping credit of the CIC. Right now she has ‘victim’ status of Obama being ‘selected’. If she takes the VP slot, that evaporates. Also, if she were VP, and they win the election, she would not be able to run for CIC until 2016, when she would be 70, which is on the upper end of the age spectrum (McCain’s age (72) is constantly used to discredit him).
In addition, were they to lose, it would negatively impact the perception of her electability.
The VP slot is a lose-lose for Hillary. The only reason I could see her taking it is if she had dirt on Obama and attempted to orchestrate a Nixon to Ford progression to CIC. (Yes, I know Ford did not orchestrate Watergate) Which is why I don’t expect Obama to offer.
Apogee (366e8b) — 8/14/2008 @ 10:11 pmIf either of those men ends up on the ticket with Obama, you’ll be able to read a newspaper at midnight anywhere from Anchorage to Miami from the light given off by little moonbat heads exploding–the nutroots despise both of them.
M. Scott Eiland (a16843) — 8/14/2008 @ 11:07 pmBiden as Veep? He’s the kind of guy who stands in front of a mirror and tells his reflection, “Baby, you’re the bomb!”
Bayh? He’s got a longer resume than Obama, but, given memories of the previous Veep from Indiana (last name starts with “Q”), he could rapidly end up being a punchline. And I’m speaking as a native Hoosier.
Oh well, I’m sure Bubba and the Hildabeast will rapidly find ways to knee-cap both of these guys.
MarkJ (7fa185) — 8/15/2008 @ 5:01 amI think Baracky runs the risk of having a VP choice that has a better resume than his own. Bayh is safe, dull, and is considered moderate, but is a DLC kind of guy, which would drive Kos and the twatwaffles batty. Biden is Biden. He would be in all his glory with cameras following them everywhere.
JD (75f5c3) — 8/15/2008 @ 5:45 amObama’s obvious VP choice is himself. Who else can stand with The One? So ne Clinton he will pick Michelle.
gajim (e39b35) — 8/15/2008 @ 7:34 amgajim – They’re doing wonderful things with cloning. Maybe by the time his second term rolls around he can kick Michelle to the curb and offer up a cloned version of himself as VP.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 8/15/2008 @ 8:08 amSen. Bayh would trigger a revolt from Sen. Obama’s base.
He might still be a good choice, because of his effects on Indiana and on wavering moderates, but there would be a cost.
aphrael (e0cdc9) — 8/15/2008 @ 10:15 amI will bet a dollar to a donut that it’s Bill Daley. (House limit fifty dollars against fifty donuts.)
nk (e69fdd) — 8/15/2008 @ 10:38 amBill Daley…
Another Drew (3397e8) — 8/15/2008 @ 10:52 amWhat state is he a resident/registered voter of?
Oh, shucks! I forgot. Linconwood, Illinois for real. They cannot be residents of the same state.
But maybe he can finesse New York? He worked there for a while.
Ok, ok, you get a donut.
nk (e69fdd) — 8/15/2008 @ 11:07 amMake that a maple bar, please.
Another Drew (3397e8) — 8/15/2008 @ 11:26 amBayh is Obama’s best pick. You can take that to the bank, but they may not cash the check unless you already have an account there.
Ropelight (42c46d) — 8/16/2008 @ 9:56 pm