Democrat: Obama “Selected, Not Elected”
[Guest post by DRJ]
The New York Observer printed a letter from Clinton bundler Ricki Lieberman who believes Hillary can still be the Democratic nominee in 2008. Here’s an excerpt from her email:
“The Democratic Party has no nominee. Its presumptive nominee was selected, not elected, and Mile High Stadium notwithstanding, delegates go to Denver to select the Democratic candidate who can win in November. We ask the Democratic Party to stop delegate intimidation and replacement, and to hold an open convention with a traditional nominating and roll call process such as was afforded Ted Kennedy in 1980 and even Howard Dean in 2004. If that happens, we are confident that Senator Clinton will be the nominee and the President of the United States. We are deeply fearful that to nominate Obama is to elect McCain.”
A roll call vote would be great fun. In the meantime, I’d like to hear more about how the Democratic Party is intimidating and replacing delegates.
— DRJ
The opera is not over until the fat lady Hillary sings.
Perfect Sense (9d1b08) — 8/13/2008 @ 5:53 pmCackles.
Rick Ballard (0a8990) — 8/13/2008 @ 6:10 pmFreakin’ beautiful !
JD (5f0e11) — 8/13/2008 @ 6:23 pmI swear to God, this is the funniest thing to ever happen…
I’m putting money on Hillary as the nominee when I get to Vegas…
Scott Jacobs (d3a6ec) — 8/13/2008 @ 6:30 pmAs much as I hate to say it, if we are going to end up with a democrat as president, I would rather it be Hillary than Obama.
At any rate, Hillary getting the nomination in Denver would make for some seriously fun TV watching.
huey (fae80b) — 8/13/2008 @ 6:33 pmWhat goes around, comes around. After eight years of whining about Florida 2000, that meme is going to bite them squarely on the posterior–and oh do they deserve it.
M. Scott Eiland (a16843) — 8/13/2008 @ 6:43 pmBobby Vinton’s not quite right for this very fun news so here’s some aptly named celebratory techno instead. Appropriately, New Age-y graphics included. š
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 8/13/2008 @ 6:47 pmTell the truth, and run like hell!
Ropelight (4a83c9) — 8/13/2008 @ 6:58 pmDRJ, there was a Clinton delegate who publicly stated that she’d not vote for Obama who has already had her credentials revoked and is already replaced.
SPQR (26be8b) — 8/13/2008 @ 7:15 pmSPQR,
I remember that but Lieberman’s comment seems to be referring to more than that, or at least something more recent than that.
DRJ (a5243f) — 8/13/2008 @ 7:40 pmIf that happens, we are confident that Senator Clinton will be the nominee and the President of the United States
love2008 (1b037c) — 8/13/2008 @ 7:52 pmIf I was born in the White House, I am confident that by now I would be President.
If I was born in Hollywood, I am confident I would be a superstar by now.
If the sun was black, maybe the earth would be white,
If wishes were horses, I am telling you, I would have a ranch by now.
If my name was “Patterico”, I am telling you and I swear to it, this blog would have been mine!
If, Eve had not eaten the apple, Adam would have said “stick to the script, darling and eat the freaking fruit!”
If….If…if….oh…If……
That’s actually shocking and rather horrific. I wonder if it’s ever happened before or if it’s without precedent.
Vermont Neighbor (a066ed) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:02 pmCackles.
No, Cankles!
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:17 pm#2 – Rick Ballard
— That’s ‘cankles’. š
Icy Truth (865643) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:19 pmScary!
Icy Truth (865643) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:20 pmBREAKING “IF” NEWS:
love2008 (1b037c) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:28 pmSubmit all the “ifs” of your life and let’s watch how dreams can really come true. I tell you, IF you do, something good will happen in your life this year. Start every statement with the magic word “if” and watch your life change.
(courtesy of the should’a would’a could’a company. Inc.)
Couldn’t resist Icy.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:31 pmI think I saw this in “Pinochio”.
Another Drew (131739) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:32 pmlove, to your list of if’s you can add “If the party of unity were actually capable of presenting a united front”.
Icy Truth (865643) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:32 pmIf your aunt had nuts she would be your uncle is my personal favorite.
Baracky will simply not allow a roll call vote. Take that to the bank.
JD (5f0e11) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:33 pmI second JD!
Another Drew (131739) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:34 pmIf he did, it would be the largest mistake of his political career.
If Lovey took all the empty platitudes she’s uttered on this blog and shoved them up her butt, she’s look like a blimp.
Does that capture the spirit?
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:46 pmAD – Let’s hope that he is naive enough to do so.
JD (5f0e11) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:47 pm#19
love2008 (1b037c) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:49 pmTrue. Very true. But that’s a big “if”. And a good one. More.
And JD, #20, Classic. Pure Classic.
Let this inspire you as you medidate on all the “ifs” of your life.
I wonder if the present day Mayor Daley will tell Lieberman, “Fuck you, you Jew son of a bitch, you lousy motherfucker, go home!”
nk (e69fdd) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:51 pm#22
love2008 (1b037c) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:54 pmGood Allah! Daleyrocks. That is the illest “if” I have heard today. You get a thumps up for that. More!
Bloodthirsty Liberal noticed something a few days ago:
I wondered why Obama suddenly wanted full voting rights for all of the delegates in Florida and Michigan. Now I get it:
Former Sen. Bob Graham, a state legislator and a Broward County Commissioner gained seats in Floridaās delegation to the Democratic National Convention Saturday as Sen. Barack Obama scored an early tactical victory among the stateās combative party activists.
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Leon County Democratic Chairman Rick Minor was among casualties of the delegation āpurgeā by Obama, who ousted six delegates and two alternates and replaced them with his own choices.
http://bloodthirstyliberal.com/?p=6800
Paul (07ae3c) — 8/13/2008 @ 8:58 pmI remember that but Liebermanās comment seems to be referring to more than that, or at least something more recent than that.
There was another case just this week in Colorado where a delegate sent an email to another delegate expressing concerns over Obama, the recipient tattled on her and she was summoned to party headquarters to explain herself and defend her delegate status.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5573253&page=1
Taltos (4dc0e8) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:00 pm#23
Guys… when Obama talks about Change We Can Believe In… I pray to god he’s referring to his own candidacy!
Vermont Neighbor (a066ed) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:01 pmPaul (and Taltos),
Why am I not surprised. Let it go on record now that this Dictator is not interested in debate or equality. America should take note of these tactics now – from his Jack Ryan dirty moves up to this stunt. Full warning.
Vermont Neighbor (a066ed) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:10 pmI can picture it now. An all out brawl on the convention floor. Cut to Andrea Mitchell.
“Chris, it’s pandemonium down here! The New York delegation has just assaulted the Illinois delegates by dumping their fair trade, non-fat soy mochas, near-beer and low sodium, sustainably-grown, organic vegan popcorn onto their heads. There’s an SEIU cleaning crew, perfectly representing the party’s diversity, on hand for just such a scenario. But it doesn’t appear that their hemp mops and recycled paper towels are going to be able to clean this mess up in time for the declaration of the nominee. I must say Chris, this is absolutely the worst-case scenario for Democrats tonight. And it’s playing out all over the floor of the convention hall. Dean’s people are calling for a cooling off period but the PUMAS are taking that as a subtle dig at umm, menopause, and are threatening to bare it all on national television for Hillary if she doesn’t get that roll-call vote. I tell you Chris, never in my time covering politics have I witnessed anything quite like this.
The LGBT’s are threatening to ally with a coalition of blue-dogs on drilling if gay marriage is not included in the platform…..”
Chrissy; “Andrea, I’m, well (spittle, spittle, fleck fleck) I must say, I’m losing that tingling sensation in my leg tonight.”
You get the picture.
Chris (da1e70) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:12 pmRich!
Vermont Neighbor (a066ed) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:22 pmThat is so funny, Chris. Nice touch with the “hemp mops and recycled paper towels.”
DRJ (a5243f) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:22 pmCouldn’t resist. Someone here can take that ball and run much farther with it, I think. I’m not very humorous by nature but that convention is ripe for all kinds of mocking and parody. The Onion on steroids.
Chris (da1e70) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:29 pmNice work, Chris, but if you’d seen the list of requirements that the DNC put out for vendors for the convention, you’d realize that your comments about “fair trade”, organic and locally grown was not satire but reality.
They really are loons.
SPQR (26be8b) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:32 pmSPQR,
Chris (da1e70) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:41 pmI heard some of the requirements for this “green” convention. What a joke. I’m sure our pal Al will show up to sell them the required indulgences carbon offsets.
indulgences
Chris (da1e70) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:42 pmstrike two. can never get that tag to work on here.
Chris (da1e70) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:43 pmAnyone want to hazard a guess as to how high Howard Dean’s Mylanta bill is running?
Icy Truth (865643) — 8/13/2008 @ 9:45 pmI do not understand why McCain and/or his operatives aren’t laying down a marker for Obama being a chickens*** if he does not affirm TODAY that there will be a full-on roll call first ballot.
This is basic. Why aren’t they doing this?
Ed (841b4a) — 8/13/2008 @ 10:29 pmEd,
Not sure there’s any urgency for McCain to point out the obvious wrt the Dem nominating process. These are the people who continue to wave the bloody shirt of FL 2000 to this very day. That their presumptive nominee is counting selectively is obvious to the PUMAS and other assorted sane Dem’s.
Denver will probably not end that well for the One and even if they avoid a full-on riot, there will be plenty of time for McCain to point out the inconsistencies.
Chris (da1e70) — 8/13/2008 @ 10:36 pmDNC host committee meal guidelines
* Half a meal made up of fruits and/or veggies
* At least three of the following five colors on a plate – red, green, yellow, blue/purple and white (garnishes don’t count)
* No fried foods
* At least 70 percent of ingredients (based on precooked weight) certified organic and/or grown or raised in Colorado
* Use of reusable serviceware
* No bottled water, use pitchers instead
* Encourage staff to use alternative modes of transportation
Crack me up every time I read it!
Dana (254946) — 8/13/2008 @ 10:53 pmThey can’t stop themselves. They have to control EVERYTHING . . . for our own good, of course.
Icy Truth (865643) — 8/14/2008 @ 12:30 amThey’ll have their roll call vote, and they’ll nominate Barack Hussein Obama. To not nominate Mr Obama is to tell black voters to stay home in November, and that not only costs them the presidency, but has dramatic effects “down-ticket.”
Dana R Pico (3e4784) — 8/14/2008 @ 6:39 amAs Nancy Pelosi has said: “Hillary Clinton has accepted defeat gracefully, some of her supporters have not.
Oiram (983921) — 8/14/2008 @ 9:54 amAs for McCain he doesn’t want an election. He expects a coronation. After all he’s a “War Hero.” And we’d all better take care because <a href=”he’s VERY tightly wound.
David Ehrenstein (699cff) — 8/14/2008 @ 4:17 pm(Once more ) because McCain is VERY tightly wound.
David Ehrenstein (699cff) — 8/14/2008 @ 5:13 pmkeep beating that drum, Ehrenstein, I’m sure it is a small consolation for you given that the Democrats will run a cheap rented tux on a hanger.
SPQR (26be8b) — 8/14/2008 @ 5:31 pmHey, D.E., so am I.
Keep talking shit about McCain and you’ll find out how much.
Icy Truth (e52465) — 8/14/2008 @ 6:49 pmProject much, David?
JD (5f0e11) — 8/14/2008 @ 7:11 pm“Project”? Pas de tout.Here’s someone who best expreses my sentiments.
David Ehrenstein (699cff) — 8/15/2008 @ 6:10 amAs for
McCainBaracky he doesnāt want an election. He expects a coronation.Fixed that for you, David.
We are the one we have been waiting for.
The oceans stopped rising.
Blah, blah, blah …
JD (75f5c3) — 8/15/2008 @ 6:32 amHere is The One I have been waiting for — Sabu.
David Ehrenstein (699cff) — 8/15/2008 @ 8:44 am