Patterico's Pontifications

8/3/2008

Obama One

Filed under: 2008 Election — DRJ @ 9:52 pm



[Guest post by DRJ]

CBS News “From the Road” blog describes the recent retrofit of the front section of Obama’s plane to include four luxurious leather recliners and a matching booth. Here was one reporter’s reaction:

“Typically the candidate’s cabin is like business class — roomier and less chaotic than the staff and press areas, but still short of the accoutrements of a pro team’s charter,” says Politico’s Mike Allen, a frequent campaign flier.

After looking at a few photos of Obama’s cabin, Allen quipped, “Air Force One may seem a tad claustrophobic.”

There are photos at the link, including candidate Obama’s chair that has an imprint not shown on the other chairs:

The Obama logo and Obama ’08.
Underneath is the word President.

But, hey, there’s no seal … yet.

— DRJ

135 Responses to “Obama One”

  1. If Obama loses in November, who’s going to be the person that has to tell him he can’t play president anymore?

    Cicero (5f6f87)

  2. Yeah, he can kiss my imprint!

    Icy Truth (7eda0d)

  3. Plenty of room for the faithful to prostrate themselves and kiss Obama’s feet.

    Perfect Sense (9d1b08)

  4. I think he should have gone for purple.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  5. I foresee a massive government bail-out of Obama’s campaign debt. With Clinton’s debts swept in under the rug, no doubt.

    Glen Wishard (02562c)

  6. In fact, I really foresee an Obama debt crisis – not even kidding this time.

    Is Mr. Oozing Entitlement going to work off this massive expenditure by humbling himself at $50-a-plate dinners for the next 10 years? I guess he can always write Me, Myself, and I, Part Two.

    Glen Wishard (02562c)

  7. But is there fresh fruit on the plane?

    nk (e8a4f1)

  8. nk – It is too damn difficult to keep fresh fruit around. Oh, the horror.

    JD (75f5c3)

  9. Well nk, there’s at least one nut, and he sure appears to be bananas…

    Does that count? :)

    Scott Jacobs (425810)

  10. Racist. Clearly your allusion to bananas, and the affinity of monkeys to same, is a racist code word.

    JD (75f5c3)

  11. I knew you were gonna say that JD.

    Scott Jacobs (425810)

  12. I am predictable. That is a feature, not a bug.

    If you folks weren’t so overtly racist, I would not be forced to denounce you, daily.

    JD (75f5c3)

  13. That is a feature, not a bug.

    I believe the computer/console game industries would say “Working as intended”. :)

    Scott Jacobs (425810)

  14. But I am not a gamer/programmer, so I will just stick with pointing out your overt code-word racism 😉

    JD (75f5c3)

  15. I’ll bet the plane has curb feelers and spinners on the engine cowlings. It’s gotta look authentic, man.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  16. Racist. Clearly your allusion to bananas, and the affinity of monkeys to same, is a racist code word.

    Comment by JD — 8/4/2008 @ 6:32 am

    I knew you were gonna say that JD.

    Comment by Scott Jacobs — 8/4/2008 @ 6:35 am

    I didn’t. And it was pretty freakin’ funny. :) Am starting to look forward to the Daily Denouncin’s BTW, whoever they come from.

    no one you know (1f5ddb)

  17. “But I am not a gamer/programmer, so I will just stick with pointing out your overt code-word racism”

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=uppity

    uppity: adjective presumptuously arrogant

    afall (21778e)

  18. That is a feature, not a bug.

    Thanks…I’ll be spending an hour or so cleaning up the coffee spew 😉

    Old Coot (43e1f1)

  19. afall – Do explain …

    Old Coot – Oops. Sorry. Please accept my apologies.

    No one you know – Just calling a spade a spade. Dammit. I denounce myself.

    JD (75f5c3)

  20. JD – Xenophobic misogynistic homphobic jingoistic carnivore

    Have a good day!

    Oh, and Katrina.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  21. JD,

    What do you have against manual excavation implements? Are you some sort of shovelist?

    Sorta back on topic – M. Simon does a very good job in desribing what happens when Alinskyite meets fighter pilot.
    I know I won’t be going to Camp Obama Be.

    Rick Ballard (0a8990)

  22. Rick – I have great appreciation for garden implements. Just not the racist ones.

    dalyrocks – jingoistic is my favorite one. Thanks. That makes me proud.

    JD (75f5c3)

  23. Wow, afall, I didn’t know you were so fond of the word “uppity”.

    Seeing as how you are the first one to use it in this thread, and all…

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  24. Isn’t uppity one of those racist code-words? Like articulate?

    JD (75f5c3)

  25. “But is there fresh fruit on the plane?”

    No, but I have a feeling that some type of vegetable could be on board…let’s see, some type of high falutin’ lettuce, yes? Could it be…Arugula?!! Satan? Bueller?

    Dmac (82935d)

  26. Isn’t uppity one of those racist code-words? Like articulate?

    I think it’s more like a dog whistle thingy.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  27. “No, but I have a feeling that some type of vegetable could be on board”

    Ugly Fruit?

    Sorry, that was Michelle. My mistake.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  28. David Gergen: McCain’s “Moses” ad is code for calling Obama “uppity”. Just saw that at Hot Air. See video of the moron’s (Gergen) logic.

    Yes, you evil Rethuglicans have been checked by PC and dare not criticize the Zero (0!) in any fashion. Hope! Change! Fresh fruit! No palefaced geezers for POTUS. Obama is a GREAT leader and you will never be allowed to take his incandescence for granted because he is the zenith of magic negro perfection.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  29. All you guys are just too much. I can’t drink iced tea anymore reading this site. hahahaha

    –nose one you know

    no one you know (1f5ddb)

  30. noyk – I shall refrain from pointing out the inherent racism of anyone that dares to not agree with Baracky and his minions. I appreciate the simply pleasure of a cold glass of sweet iced tea, and do not want to keep you from enjoying same.

    JD (75f5c3)

  31. simply = simple. I am a mental midget when typing.

    JD (75f5c3)

  32. I am a mental midget when typing.

    I condemn your anti-intellectual comment.

    Thinkist!

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  33. Iced Tea? I note the movement toward drinking higher anti-oxidant white tea. Racists! You should try some iced latte. Alas, I like my coffee like my potus choice- hot and black and a little on the sweet side. hmmm- BHO as a tall, skinny sumo wrestler? More racism.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  34. If I’m a Hyphenated-American who is melanin enhanced, and I support McCain, am I a racist against melanin-deficient Americans?

    Or, as I suspect some would argue, melanin-enhanced individuals can’t be racists.

    If I am melanin-deficient, and was born in the former Republic of South Africa, emigrated to the US, and became a citizen, can I refer to myself as an “African-American”? Perhaps start a 527 group called “African-Americans for McCain”?

    Just inquiring.

    Horatio (a549f7)

  35. “Seeing as how you are the first one to use it in this thread, and all…”

    I prefer “presumptuously arrogant.”

    afall (de7003)

  36. “I am predictable. That is a feature, not a bug.”

    Working within design parameters!

    Another Drew (8018ee)

  37. I am a mental midget when typing.

    I condemn your anti-intellectual comment.

    He never said there was anything good, bad or indifferent about being a mental midget. All he was trying to do was to celebrate his intellectual diversity. How dare you play the thinkist card!

    Xrlq (b71926)

  38. Actually, now that I come to think of it, that should be “mental person of small stature”.

    But fortunately, I’ve never been accused of being PC.

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  39. Racists!

    love2008 (1b037c)

  40. Cut the carping. It is only right and proper for the Annoited Bringer of Inevitable Change (ABIC)to enjoy the few meager comforts his toadies and sycophants can bestow upon HIM, who is now, and must remain, unquestioned. The milicious tongues of the spiteful are stilled at the sound of his coming. All praise to ABIC, etc.

    And He, who surely is The One Who is Yet Unrevealed (TOWYU) is showered with figs, and is Blessed among those who speed swiftly upon the aethers of the heavens, hurl’d headlong across the eternal darkness, not in service to Mammon exclusively (however there are costs and expenses, both current and projected, and quite frankly, who’s going to notice a little missing off the top anyway?)

    HE is come among us (the wretched and unworthy) to save (certain segments of) humanity, bring peace to the earth, or at least to the parts cleansed of those descended from the unholy union of dogs and monkeys, and to avoid prosecution for crooked Real Estate transactions and other minor distractions, the discussion of which not only fails to put organic fruit into the mouths of his children, but also might provoke an unwanted examination of his vestments.

    Ropelight (946997)

  41. Don’t say “melanin” around the guy with melanoma!

    Icy Truth (ca1185)

  42. no one you know, #29, ditto, ditto, ditto re All! Painfully dying of stifled laughter in my office…..JD, its a gift you’ve got, pure and simple.

    Dana (b4a26c)

  43. I wouldn’t attach any significance to the word “PRESIDENT” on BHO’s lounger. That’s the logo of the national campaign, and vendors doubtless have received style manuals with the intent of keeping the graphics uniform.

    Whoever created the logos and signage for the Obama team has done a stellar job. As they say in business, that’s really putting perfume on a pig.

    L.N. Smithee (d1de1b)

  44. JD is clearly joking, but Lovey (being an Obama acolyte, and therefore supportive of all statements made by The AnO!inted O!ne) probably isn’t, since they have made the claim that anyone that hasn’t voted for Obama is a racist, and anyone who wouldn’t vote for him in November is a racist-in-training.

    Meanwhile the irony is utterly lost on the Big O! and his sycophants.

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  45. 1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples and major campaign contributors came unto him:
    2 And he opened his mouth and, reading from a teleprompter, taught them, saying,
    3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of health care.
    4 Blessed are they that mourn the demise of capitalism: for they shall be comforted with freebies from the State.
    5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth through affirmative action.
    6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled with victim-hood and decks of race cards.
    7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy, and food stamps, and, if necessary, commuted sentences.
    8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see Obama.
    9 Blessed are the peacemakers, including the anti-Semite ex-President Carter: for they shall be called the children of God.
    10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of reparations and a black separatist State.
    11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake, for you were my Pastor.
    12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in welfare: for so persecuted they the minorities which were before you.
    13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, or have given a brother high blood pressure, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, as were the trans fats before it, and to be trodden under foot of men.
    14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid: even Detroit, Yo!
    15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house, and it leaveth no carbon footprint.
    16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works — for the workers control the means of production — and glorify your Father which is in The White House.
    17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets, or the Constitution: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil the Prophecy of Barack.

    Icy Truth (ca1185)

  46. Dana – Thanks. If I have a gift, and that is certainly debatable, it is in recognizing the racism of Republicans.

    Xlrq – I am painfully scared, even phobic, of midgets, so I will go on record as noting that to me, being a mental midget is not a good thing. 😉

    JD (75f5c3)

  47. Isn’t uppity one of those racist code-words? Like articulate?

    Comment by JD — 8/4/2008 @ 7:47 am

    Or Joe Biden’s “clean.” Clean = white = RAAAACIST!

    Insomniac (8899da)

  48. Isn’t uppity one of those racist code-words? Like articulate?

    No, more like “niggardly” or “black hole”

    Horatio (a549f7)

  49. No, more like “niggardly” or “black hole”

    Comment by Horatio — 8/4/2008 @ 11:32 am

    😛

    Comment by Icy Truth — 8/4/2008 @ 10:21 am

    Somebody ought to photoshop a few Messiah pics and put that whole thing on YouTube. Seriously.

    no one you know (1f5ddb)

  50. Think we could dig up Chuck Heston and get him to do the voice-overs?

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  51. “The Obama logo and Obama ‘08.
    Underneath is the word President.”

    http://store.johnmccain.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BSR2614

    *sigh*

    afall (9abde3)

  52. — Having previously blasphemed Matthew 5:1-17 (the Sermon on the Mount), here is the Sermon on the Plain, Luke 6:17-49 (King James Version):

    17 And he came down with them, and stood in the plane, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of reporters out of all Washington DC and New York City, and from the sea coast of California, which came to hear him, and to be healed of their diseases;
    18 And they that were vexed with unclean spirits and partisanship: and they were healed.
    19 And the whole multitude of celebrities sought to touch him: for there went virtue out of him, and healed them all.
    20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of increased government spending.
    21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled with free food at school. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh at those that work for a living.
    22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake: for you are Democrats.
    23 Rejoice ye in that election day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in entitlements: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets perpetuate the cycle of dependence.
    24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation and have thus triggered the windfall profits tax.
    25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger when all of the corn is turned into ethanol. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep when the capital gains tax rises by 10%.
    26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets, such as at the Republican National Convention.
    27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you. They, too, may suckle at the government’s teat.
    28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you; but if they be Conservatives you may institute a fairness doctrine.
    29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also; unless they utter an epithet — then it is a hate crime.
    30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. “Imagine no possessions”.
    31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise; but use protection.
    32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them, and it shall remain legal in Times Square.
    33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, as a community organizer for instance, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
    34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. Worry not, for the bailout will always be there.
    35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. That is my foreign policy.
    36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful — while performing your mandatory community service.
    37 Judge not guilty, and ye shall not be judged guilty: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned to death — no matter how heinous your crime: snitch not, and ye shall not be snitched upon: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
    38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again; unless homeboy had his thumb on the scale, know what I’m sayin’?.
    39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? The results of my campaign will provide the answer.
    40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master, especially if you have Dumbo ears.
    41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Yeah! Why you illin’? You think you all that?
    42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye. And if you be a member of the NBA, lay claim to each of the children you have fathered.
    43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit; but properly watered bud underneath the right sunlamp . . .
    44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes, nor of a Moose’s toilet do they drill in ANWR.
    45 A good man out of the good treasury of his nation bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart the Vice-President’s mouth speaketh, despite the four heart attacks visited upon him.
    46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? such as voting down that pant-suited bitch.
    47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them without thinking, I will shew you to whom he is like:
    48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock, and secured the property from Tony Rezko for below market value: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock of corruption.
    49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great. [Maybe Katrina was HIS will!]

    Icy Truth (ca1185)

  53. #49 – n.o.y.k.

    — Thanks! I’m consoling myself with the knowledge that ach-e-double-hockey-sticks has a dry heat. Living in Central Arizona, I’m used to it. [It’s supposed to be 112 today.]

    Icy Truth (ca1185)

  54. 111° right now in central IL, including heat index…

    Scott Jacobs (425810)

  55. afall,

    Did McCain put that bumper sticker on his chair so everyone would know it was his?

    DRJ (9d1be2)

  56. “Did McCain put that bumper sticker on his chair so everyone would know it was his?”

    Just wanted to let y’all know its not that abnormal in presidential graphics to leave out the “for.”

    As to how Mccain marks up his seats, for some reason there aren’t pictures of that, but some description:

    “In McCain’s spacious first class area, there are 12 plush leather seats for the candidate, his wife and senior staffers. The “straight talk” area features a long leather bench and another first class seat which McCain sits in when he talks to the press – or would, if he used the area.”

    This is silly shit.

    afall (8bb588)

  57. afall – Still waiting for an explanation as to what was “uppity” about what I said. Racist.

    JD (75f5c3)

  58. “afall – Still waiting for an explanation as to what was “uppity” about what I said. Racist.”

    I don’t think anyone is uppity at all. Sometimes people get presumptuously arrogant though.

    afall (138f0d)

  59. Sometimes people get presumptuously arrogant though.

    “I have a gumby cat in mind…”

    (Bonus points for the reference.)

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  60. Yes, you are presumptuously arrogant sometimes, afall. It is good to know you can engage is some self-reflection. Good on you.

    JD (5f0e11)

  61. “Yes, you are presumptuously arrogant sometimes, afall. ”

    See how easy it is to pick up on the new code?

    afall (7539fe)

  62. — The rest of the Sermon on the Mount:

    18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. If you interpret that to mean welfare for all, so be it.
    19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; you are scum but I forgive you: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven and in the union hall.
    20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Community service or else!
    21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: thus were included Ramos and Compean despite the justification of their actions.
    22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment, but not the death penalty: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire — or hate crimes legislation.
    23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, $2300 max, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
    24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift: pay your debts, pay your taxes.
    25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him, at least during the general election campaign; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, to stand beside Rezko, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
    26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing in capital gains.
    27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery, as did mine opponent; I’m just sayin’:
    28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. That’s why me and Scarlett just text.
    29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. Word up.
    30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. Don’t lose yo’ soul!
    31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: furthermore, let there be an airtight pre-nup.
    32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery: Damn straight! That kitty belongs to me!
    33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: and the schools shall make thine children do the same.
    34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: nor by the Es-ca-lade; for it is God’s ride.
    35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King: nor by The White House; for it is his crib.
    36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. Only I, the bi-racial one may do so.
    37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. Do not ask, do not tell.
    38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth, and a kick in the ass for the fool what smoked all my stuff.
    39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. You have not the right of self-defense.
    40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also, lest someone like myself step in and really take your ass to the cleaners.
    41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain, as long as it be in a green vehicle.
    42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away, and engage not in deceptive lending practices.
    43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy, usually by the demon right wing.
    44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; and meet with them minus any preconditions.
    45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust, and practiceth moral relativism without regard to the real world consequence.
    46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? Yeah, that’ right; I slanged it.
    47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? All hail the tax collector!
    48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Well, you crackas can be — literally — pale reflections of my perfection.

    Icy Truth (ca1185)

  63. #62
    Icy.
    Your pathetic attempt at being funny comes across as stupid, blasphemous and weak. Please don’t make light of the word of God. The bible is not a tool you use to make fun of a candidate. Just try that with the koran and see what happens.
    You must know there are limits to parody.
    I know you despise Obama, but must you also insult christianity?

    love2008 (1b037c)

  64. The bible is not a tool you use to make fun of a candidate.

    The Bible (remember to capitalize proper nouns, you moron) is not a tool you use to defend a candidate, either, you hypocrite.

    Just try that with the koran and see what happens.

    That says less about the argument than about Muslims. Again, you should capitalize Koran.

    I know you despise Obama, but must you also insult christianity?

    Something about pots and kettles, and the importance of not throwing stones if one lives in a glass house should go here, but I’m laughing too hard at the irony to remember the exact phrasing right now…

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  65. Do you support this action Drum? Do you find it funny?

    love2008 (1b037c)

  66. Do you support this action Drum? Do you find it funny?

    Find what funny? People making fun of Obama? People using religious texts and parodying them? Or is it the exercise of the First Amendment that you find so offensive?

    Which action do you find most offensive?

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  67. So you are in support. Typical.

    love2008 (1b037c)

  68. Support of what, you sub-cretinous mongrel suffering from rectofossal ambiguity?

    (“Fossa” coming from the geological Latin for “hole in the ground”.)

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  69. Please don’t make light of the word of God. The bible is not a tool you use to make fun of a candidate. Just try that with the koran and see what happens.
    You must know there are limits to parody.
    I know you despise Obama, but must you also insult christianity?

    Comment by love2008 — 8/4/2008 @ 4:09 pm

    love2008,

    It’s “Christianity” actually – Jesus Christ is a proper name – and IMO what Icy Truth is doing is parodying Obama and his Messiah-like cult of personality, not the Bible.

    That’s precisely why it’s effective. IOW you’ll notice that Icy Truth chose this thread for a reason. Obama’s pride and hubris just begs to be parodied.

    Trust me, I’m as religious as anyone you will likely meet in this life (hope to tell you about my vocation someday), and I support this type of parody because Obama is supporting a devotion to himself that is scary, and though he may not intend this (I can’t see into the man’s soul) is spiritually dangerous, because it invites dependency on government and the person of Obama himself to a degree that usurps trust in and devotion to God. That’s how I see it anyway. I don’t think I’m alone, given how many people are making statues, pictures, and parody-naming him Messiah etc.

    I don’t see all these parody haloes, statues, parodies like the one above, etc., as tearing the name of Jesus down. I see it as reminding people that no one belongs in His place.

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  70. Obama’s pride and hubris just begs to be parodied.

    Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall (Proverbs 16:18).

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  71. love2008 is now recycling old discredited comments he’s made in previous threads.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  72. #68
    I know why you are angry Drumwaster. But I thought you were matured enough to just let things go. But you can go on with your vituperations. I can see thats all you have left. Let me not stop you. Knock yourself out. Let me know when you are healed.

    love2008 (1b037c)

  73. What makes the parody hilarious is the fact that Love2008 really does believe in the Obamessiah cult.

    “Obama’s disqualification before man is his qualification before God. This, my friend, is the mystery behind the Obama phenomenon.” — love2008

    Evil Pundit (646727)

  74. #69, again, this is precisely why I love reading your well expressed and insightful comments.

    Dana (254946)

  75. I know why you are angry Drumwaster.

    Then prove it. Answer the question.

    I can see thats all you have left.

    You haven’t even got that much.

    You throw accusations and assertions around without support, start pulling nonsense you CLEARLY don’t understand, and yet you pretend to be the victim?

    And I thought your therapy was going so well…

    Poor pitiful thing. I’d toss down a shovel, but I see you already have one, so just one last chance before I start backfilling: any last words?

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  76. #69, again, this is precisely why I love reading your well expressed and insightful comments.

    Comment by Dana — 8/4/2008 @ 6:08 pm

    You’re very nice – thanks. And ditto re: your comments.

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  77. No one I know,
    #69
    Do you have evidence that Obama has actually deliberately tried to establish a cult around himself. Is there any proof that he has made himself out to be a “messiah” or a center of worship that some dense commenters like to say here? This whole nonsense is beginning to get annoying. I think it is an insult to suggest that anyone who prefers a particular candidate over another is a cult-like spell. This is politics. There are two candidates running for one seat. People have the right to choose who they will vote for, based on what they are looking for in the next President.

    love2008 (1b037c)

  78. #69 and #74 just felt compelled to drop by and sling around a little KKK code words.

    JD (5f0e11)

  79. JD, you’re a sly one. You found us out! Better keep that third eye out for you.

    Dana (254946)

  80. #77 I think it is an insult to suggest that anyone who prefers a particular candidate over another is a cult-like spell.

    Of course it is.

    But to suggest that someone who claims that Obama has been chosen by God to be President is under a cult-like spell — that’s simply an inference from observation.

    Evil Pundit (646727)

  81. Why bother trying to hide it? Just call him half white. Or say that he was named after Saddam, and conceived by the idea and excitement of Selma, 2 years in the future.

    JD (5f0e11)

  82. #75
    Answer the question.
    Which question? Or is that what you like to keep repeating to prove you are lucid.

    love2008 (1b037c)

  83. Comment by love2008 — 8/4/2008 @ 6:13 pm

    Fair questions. And they deserve discussion. Gotta step out for a bit but will be back – as a partial answer though, start with this video (pay careful attention to all Obama’s quotes, especially) and this quote (re the oceans, a few paragraphs in) and a quote from you (thanks Evil Pundit):

    “Obama’s disqualification before man is his qualification before God. This, my friend, is the mystery behind the Obama phenomenon.” — love2008

    When I get back, if you care to discuss it, I will.

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  84. Hmmm, maybe my comment (answering love2008) is caught in moderation. Gotta pop out but will be back.

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  85. #73
    But to suggest that someone who claims that Obama has been chosen by God to be President
    Hey Evil, where did I really say that God has chosen Obama? Unless you are deliberately trying to misread my post. I said that Obama’s disqualification before man is his qualification before God. Meaning his lack of experience will not be a problem with God seeing that God has in time past chosen people everyone felt were unqualified for the job. Meaning if God were to reject Obama, it would not be because He felt he was not qualified but because of his heart. It is God that qualifies us for the work He calls us to. He equips us with what we need to accomplish our divine callings.

    love2008 (1b037c)

  86. Which question?

    Mine was # 66 (and # 68), but I’m not the only one asking you questions.

    Not that you are ever going to actually answer any, but I keep Hoping for Change.

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  87. Hey Evil, where did I really say that God has chosen Obama?

    Oh, you’re not? Well, explain all the references to King David and how he was chosen by God, then called it a simile about Obama.

    Are you really going to deny that you said it? Especially when the rest of your most recent blather actually says it again…

    Don’t make me embarrass you.

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  88. Comment by love2008 — 8/4/2008 @ 6:13 pm

    OK, comment is gone I guess so let’s try again.

    love2008, your question deserves an answer so let me start by pointing you to a few things Obama has said and more things Obama has said (note the “rise of the oceans will slow…” quote especially) and now let’s look at your quote, reproduced above (thanks Evil Pundit):

    “Obama’s disqualification before man is his qualification before God. This, my friend, is the mystery behind the Obama phenomenon.” — love2008

    I read what you said in your comment #84 just now. But when you refer to the “mystery behind the Obama phenomenon” in the context of being “qualified before God” you most certainly DO lend weight to the view that Obama’s followers view him as chosen by God. WHether or not you include yourself personally among those many followers is, well, kind of irrelevant.

    The point is, many, many people do see Obama in these quasi religious savior terms; otherwise why would they not laugh him off the stage when he says these appallingly hubristic things like “this (the time of my ascendancy) was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal” ?

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  89. Your question in the places you mentioned to me seem stupid.
    Which action do you find most offensive?

    The action of using Bible verses to mock a candidate. I thought that should be obvious to you.
    And,
    Support of what,

    Support for the action of using the Bible to mock a candidate or anyone for that matter.
    Is that really the question or are you just trying to act like the drama queen you are becoming?

    love2008 (1b037c)

  90. Well, love2008, have tried twice to answer your question; am not ignoring you but my comments must be in the black hole of moderation (no denunciations anyone please; my patience is gone from typing twice to no avail :) ). Maybe it’s the links.

    Meanwhile, others are making very good points. Your question is valid but will just say for now: you did say on that other thread that it was your opinion that God had chosen Obama. Why you’re apparently backing off from that opinion now, not sure.

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  91. love 2008,
    Wonder if this single link will come through in the meantime (clues to why people see Obama as arrogant – ignore the parody and just listen only to Obama’s statements in the clip)

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  92. whoo hoo!

    now another single link (note again the quotes from Obama only – the hubris is pretty shocking – no one cared for the sick before Obama’s ascendancy you see, and only Obama’s rise could slow the rise of the oceans)

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  93. The action of using Bible verses to mock a candidate. I thought that should be obvious to you.

    I don’t think that was what he was doing at all, just as has been already pointed out above.

    So your question to me is worthless, as it does not adequately describe either existing reality nor a mutually-agreed upon basis for the question. (Authors call this “the willing suspension of disbelief”, but it takes a lot more credibility than you have earned, or a lot more exposition that you have shown.)

    Meanwhile, that glass castle you live in is looking a little shabby…

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  94. #86
    Prove that I said (explicitly and unequivocally) that God has chosen Obama. I don’t mean inferences (seeing that is all you are good at here). I mean real quotes of me saying God has chosen Obama to be the next President.
    Don’t make me embarrass you.
    You don’t even come close.

    love2008 (1b037c)

  95. lovie – You most certainly alluded to Baracky being chosen by God. The entire notion is that which is pushed by the Baracky campaign. The whole I am the one the world has been waiting for BS. The idea that Baracky is a post-racial post-partisan is horse-puckey. A post-turtle. yeah. He claims to unite, yet has no record of same. He claims to be beyond partisanship, yet has no record of reaching out.

    JD (5f0e11)

  96. no one you know,

    I found and released your comments ## 83, 88, and either 91 or 92. I suspect they were blocked because of the link(s) and I’m sorry for the delay.

    DRJ (9d1be2)

  97. 1. Wake up to the new reality. The tables have turned. Those who claim to be wise and experienced and strong will be [emphasis added] replaced by those who know they don’t know and depend on Him (God). The proud will be abased and the humble and unknown will emerge suddenly from nowhere and will be celebrated. Obama’s disqualification before man is his qualification before God. This, my friend, is the mystery behind the Obama phenomenon.

    Comment by love2008 — 8/2/2008 @ 5:35 pm

    Comment #180 (immediately after a David comparison) in the NYT thread (not gonna do links again, nope)

    2. Unless you are reading your bible up-side-down, Drum, but David was not chosen because he was a war general or soldier. He was chosen before that.

    Comment by love2008 — 8/2/2008 @ 5:54 pm

    3. comment 209, same thread:
    I know the question you all are asking: Has God chosen Obama to be President of the USA? I know I know….I know. Now lay your heads down and sleep. Such knowledge is too high for you folks. [emphasis added]

    Comment by love2008 — 8/2/2008 @ 7:03 pm

    4. comment 223, same thread:
    God rules in the affairs of men. Kings and leaders are instruments of good or evil and it matters who is chosen. And to make this clear, Do I think Obama has been chosen by God? That is my personal opinion. Time will tell.

    Comment by love2008 — 8/2/2008 @ 7:37 pm

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  98. Comment by DRJ — 8/4/2008 @ 7:25 pm

    Thanks DRJ. That’ll teach me. LINK OVAHLOAD! :)

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  99. #63 – love2008

    Your pathetic attempt at being funny comes across as stupid, blasphemous and weak.
    — You’re welcome to your opinion and I will not criticize it. I will point out, for what it’s worth, that in post #52 I admitted that what I wrote could be considered blasphemous by those — such as yourself — inclined to feel that way.

    Please don’t make light of the word of God.
    — As others have pointed out, I was making fun of Obama and the Messianic cult that worships him, NOT the Bible. I took great pains to ensure that my changes (every single one of them in bold type for clarity) reflected on the candidate and his supporters, not the source material.

    The bible is not a tool you use to make fun of a candidate. Just try that with the koran and see what happens.
    — In this case the Bible was the setting; the tool — the implement that did the work — was my mind’s interpretation of Obama’s own words and policy positions, as well as the words of praise sung in his name by people like . . . well, you. If I had used passages from the Qur’an you would have accused me of playing the ‘Obama is secretly a Muslim’ card. If you are suggesting that I wouldn’t do it for fear of Islamic retaliation — you’re partially right. Christians, it seems, are by and large more willing to accept parody. On a more factual basis, I haven’t heard anyone call Obama ‘the new Muhammad'; therefore, such a parody wouldn’t have a basis in truth from which to draw forth comedy.

    You must know there are limits to parody.
    — Absolutely; although, my immersion in the comedy of Monty Python’s Flying Circus during my formative years has certainly left me with a sensibility that is rather broad. And you must know that unless you truly believe that Obama is the new Messiah you might want to limit your comments to “not funny”. Otherwise, we might need to have a serious discussion of you kool-aid intake. Remember when you told me to chill out and drink my diet soda (which I do anyway)? Now it might be your turn.

    I know you despise Obama, but must you also insult christianity?
    — I do not despise Obama. I acknowledge his personal charisma and ability to deliver a prepared speech. I happen to be almost diametrically opposed to most of his positions on the issues; I’m also, unlike many of my conservative brethren on this blog, an active supporter of John McCain. I meant no insult to any Christians nor to Christianity itself. In fact, I was making the point that someone who is not the Messiah should not be treated as if he is JC come again.

    One more thing: the spelling. I sometimes harp (or is it jharp) on people for their spelling in these posts, and for one good reason — every web browser includes a spell-check function; the only question is are you going to be too lazy to use it. Bad spelling reflects negatively on the commentator regardless of his/her expressed opinions. Worse though is the fact that you should know better when it comes to religions and religious texts.

    Icy Truth (3aa3c0)

  100. #99
    In other words?

    love2008 (1b037c)

  101. “I know you despise Obama, but must you also insult [C]hristianity?”

    Okay, I can’t stand this any longer. love2008, its just amazingly ironic you continually defend Obama and because you assumed Christianity was being insulted, defend that as well. But yet you say nothing about Obama’s support of partial birth abortion which surely insults Christianity with the most murderously vile degradation against defenseless innocents who were created in the very image of God.

    How on earth do you defend this man and assume his character, his whole stature is representative of Christianity?

    Dana (254946)

  102. Comment by Dana — 8/4/2008 @ 7:48 pm

    *applauds*

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  103. Icy, I think you used too many polysyllabic words. Try single sentences and simple words, and lovey might actually not fall asleep halfway through.

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  104. Dana, I think you cornered love2008 with that point.

    Paul (2e7298)

  105. #77 – love2008

    Do you have evidence that Obama has actually deliberately tried to establish a cult around himself. Is there any proof that he has made himself out to be a “messiah” or a center of worship that some dense commenters [sic] like to say here?
    — I’m not sure of to what degree anyone here has accused Obama of actively ‘cultivating his cult’ (I’ve always wanted to say that). But then that isn’t so much the point. On a day when we have WLS quoting, in this blog, national pundit Andrew Sullivan saying of Obama’s overseas trip, “Obama’s fortnight was an objectively miraculous one,” one need not look much further for proof of the blind faith people are putting in this man; although, if you do look there is plenty more to discover.

    This whole nonsense is beginning to get annoying. I think it is an insult to suggest that anyone who prefers a particular candidate over another is a cult-like spell. This is politics. There are two candidates running for one seat. People have the right to choose who they will vote for, based on what they are looking for in the next President.
    — This is an abnormal case, because people are acting that way about him. And who questioned the people’s right to choose? (other than Neal Boortz, and he doesn’t hang out here).

    #89 – The action of using Bible verses to mock a candidate.

    — I can’t remember; did any Dems criticize George Bush after he said the most inspirational figure in his life was Christ?

    Icy Truth (3aa3c0)

  106. #101 Here, here. Obama and his Bots have no mercy for the truly innocent in the womb. Late term butchery is just fine by them, but do show the greatest sensitivity for the islamomutants who murder innocents with abandon and also want sociopathic murderous scum such as Jamal Abu Mumia freed from being “political prisoners”. Unrepentant domestic terrorists in guise of Ayers and Dohrn are also friends of Obama. And what does it say that a man would take his little children to church to be indoctrinated in racial hatred and conspiracy theories?

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  107. Icy Truth, one or two.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  108. Mr. Drumwaster, I sncerely apologize for paying attention (most days) in school.

    Icy Truth (3aa3c0)

  109. #100 – In other words?

    — That’s it? One dismissive non sequiter in reply to my carefully considered response?

    I cannot imagine why you don’t make more friends around here.

    Icy Truth (3aa3c0)

  110. Comment by Icy Truth — 8/4/2008 @ 8:18 pm

    Um…yeah. Didn’t answer my repeatedly typed (cause it disappeared) response – to his specific questions I might add – either. Kinda makes me not want to answer the questions next time. Wasn’t the first time he’s done this to people either by any stretch. Certainly seems rawtha rude.

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  111. And he and Petey (and nk) are over in the other thread calling ME a troll.

    Mr. Drumwaster, I sncerely apologize for paying attention (most days) in school.

    Just remember that these kids are products of the public school system, and you’ll be alright. 😉

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  112. My talking about sacrilegious usage of Bible verses has nothing to do with my support for Obama. I would have said the same thing if McCain was the target. My point is, don’t get the Bible into this. And not just the Bible, but words of Jesus Himself! Holy and cherished words He spoke on the mount. But I can see how people are willing to sacrifice basic human decency and reverence for God for politics. It’s a sad day.

    love2008 (0c8c2c)

  113. But I can see how people are willing to sacrifice basic human decency and reverence for God for politics.

    Since you are a Democrat, it’s only your willful blindness that has not allowed you to realize that you’re soaking in it.

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  114. Even more than me or Icy Truth, love2008, the one I’d really, really like to see your response to is Dana @ # 101. Truly don’t get how you reconcile your beliefs with support for a candidate with a 100% (!!) NARAL rating.

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  115. #110
    No one I know,
    You didn’t really ask any question in your comment #97. You only merely repeated my posts. There is no question there. Maybe you should ask it again if you did.
    Don’t mean to be rude. At least not to you my Christian sister. :)

    love2008 (0c8c2c)

  116. love 2008,

    my repeated responses to you (retyped since they disappeared into moderation) were 83, 88, 91 and 92:

    no one you know,

    I found and released your comments ## 83, 88, and either 91 or 92. I suspect they were blocked because of the link(s) and I’m sorry for the delay.

    Comment by DRJ — 8/4/2008 @ 7:25 pm

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  117. P.S. However Icy Truth has asked for a more substantive response too – he gave you a very civil reply – and I think Dana at 101 makes a very good point…

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  118. #76 – Get a room !

    lovie – Your hypocrisy apparently knows no bounds.

    JD (5f0e11)

  119. #76 – Get a room !

    Have one, thanks. Am typing in it quite nicely right now. :)

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  120. “But I can see how people are willing to sacrifice basic human decency and reverence for God for politics. It’s a sad day.”

    And this is precisely what Obama does when he of his own volition and free will supports, while idly standing by, the killing of full-term babies, allowing a doctor to take his scissors and pierce a tiny skull and viciously gouge the very breath of life out of them. Yes, love2008, it is indeed a sad day. And this is what the man who you wish to be President of the United States does every single day. He sacrifices human decency and reverence for God in the most heinous way – and all for politics.

    I am very disinclined toward calling out anyone on a blog. I generally walk away. But when you continually throw around God’s word and being, the very God I love and who has saved me from many despairs in this life, I am compelled to call bullshit on you.

    I learned very long ago that it is ever prudent and wise to always keep ones place before God. Be overwhelmed and awestruck by His love. Be mindful He is God and He chastens those He loves. It is your choice to throw His name around, to attempt to use some sort of warped view of Him as a tool or counter-tool to support your incoherent theology, but it is my choice to say, Stop It. Just stop it now.

    Dana (254946)

  121. Dana – They will not respond. Dealing with substance is not one of their strengths.

    JD (5f0e11)

  122. Having tried to separate my distaste for icy’s choice of satire, from my political inclination, I will now attempt to respond to Dana at comment #101.
    My support for Obama is not because I agree with him on everything he stands for. I am against abortion of any kind. But that does not mean I think a woman has no right over her body. There are circumstances where compromise may be reached. I think partial birth abortion is not only cruel and cold, I think it is also wicked and evil.
    I am also sure Obama holds the same view. Or maybe he doesn’t. only God knows what is in a man’s heart.
    Obama, to me represents change from the way we have gone over the past 7 to 8 years. This President has made a lot of costly mistakes. Iraq was a mistake. Obama was right on that. It is costing lives, resources and billions of dollars. And for what? It has cost the US it’s place of respect and influence in the world. Now we have lost credibility. Like the boy that cried “wolf”. The world won’t even believe us when the real wolf shows up. That is dangerous. We need a new face. One that can restore America’s leadership in the war on terror. One that the world will trust and follow. John McCain can’t be that person. He supports the war and had no plan of ending it till recently when the Iraqis and Bush himself began to voice it out. He is a warmonger. He will bring more wars and may trigger a nuclear war by the way he talks about foreign policy. He is s good man but not the right man. Obama is the man we need now. He is not perfect but he seems to have it right most of the time.

    love2008 (0c8c2c)

  123. #122

    Clapping…clapping..clapping (go Love2008!)

    Peter (e70d1c)

  124. So McCain’s a warmonger, but Obama wanted to invade nuclear-armed ally Pakistan to pursue Osama.
    Obama believes in the sanctity of life but still supports partial birth abortion.

    He talks of being a healing force between the races and yet stuck with a racist preacher for 20 years. Yes, America’s chickens came home to roots. The white government invented Aids to kill blacks. It was probably invented by evil Jooos who have biological weapons that differentiate between killing certain races and ethnic groups.

    At least America will be spared grievous fuel shortages if we only heed Obama’s call to pump adequate air into our tires and get tune-ups.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  125. “I will now attempt to respond to Dana at comment #101.”

    You attempted. You should leave it at that.

    Dana (254946)

  126. I think partial birth abortion is not only cruel and cold, I think it is also wicked and evil.
    I am also sure Obama holds the same view. Or maybe he doesn’t. only God knows what is in a man’s heart.
    Comment by love2008 — 8/4/2008 @ 9:11 pm

    Thank you for commenting on Dana’s post. I’m sorry to tell you that Obama voted for partial birth abortion and only supported “restrictions” when they did not interfere with the mother’s “health” (not only life, that exception was already on the books) – meaning a woman who said she was depressed by her virtually full term unborn child could have it summarily executed. He gets a 100% “prochoice” rating from NARAL – pretty amazing.

    It’s true God alone knows what’s in the heart (that’s what Jesus meant by “do not judge.” But the actions and positions of others CAN and SHOULD be judged. People, as others have said here, have to evaluate others by their statements coupled with their actions. (And if their actions belie their statements, that’s cause for evaluation too.) “By their fruits you will know them.”

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  127. Clarification: we cannot judge others’ inner selves and spiritual state as evil even if they do evil (ignorance, mental illness, bad upbringing, coercion, etc. mitigate personal responsibility). But actions and positions? We can evaluate those and say “this is good and this is evil.” And for the good of others (our children, those we lead, ourselves etc) we should.

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  128. oh, by the way, Congress voted to support the war on terror and continues to vote to fund it. If dems are so opposed and courageous at all, why not just cut off funding and let the Iraqis cope with terrorism on their own? Why should we care about what happens in the Mideast, other than supporting Palistinians? Libs want America weakened and it would help to reach that glorious day if we threw Iraq under the bus like dems did with Vietnam. What’s a few million dark people slaughtered anyway? Oh yes, it is really important to consider what the UN and Euroweenies want America to be like, as long as we continue to defend Europe and fund the UN. My, my feckoff Obama would get sooooo many votes if only he were running for king of the world or German votes counted in our elections. It ain’t over til the fat lady sings and the arrogant prick actually is the nominee and gets at least 270 electoral college votes. It won’t much matter how many liberal cadavers vote in Chicago. Libs are so big on making every vote count when it helps them, whether creating new ballots in Washington state or having students vote multiple times in Wisconsin. But do stop soldiers from absentee votes counting.
    And I see Obama supports unions taking over without secret ballots= more union power and $300 million in dues from union members siphoned off to lib candidates.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  129. lovie – Let me see if I can translate that drivel. You disagree with abortion, especially late term abortion. Despite a 100 percent voting record to the contrary, you are willing to believe that Baracky shares your views, because of your BDS. You have faith in the Messiah, to be sure.

    JD (5f0e11)

  130. #129
    JD? There is a word conspicuously missing from that post. And until I see it I am going to assume you are an impostor, faking to be JD. Therefore I denounce impostor!

    love2008 (0c8c2c)

  131. love wrote: I think partial birth abortion is not only cruel and cold, I think it is also wicked and evil. I am also sure Obama holds the same view. Or maybe he doesn’t. only God knows what is in a man’s heart.

    — Thanks to the Internet (believe it or not that’s another word that is supposed to be capitalized) we have a record of his words and deeds:

    SB 230 (1997): To prohibit partial-birth abortion unless necessary to save the life of a mother and makes performance of the procedure a Class 4 felony for the physician. OBAMA VOTED “NO”

    HB 709 (2000): To prohibit state funding of abortion and induced miscarriages except when necessary to save the life of the mother. Excludes premature births from funding except to produce a viable child when necessary to save the life of a mother. Would permit funding in cases of rape or incest when payment is authorized under federal law. OBAMA VOTED “NO”

    SB 1661 (2002): A part of the Born Alive Infant Protection Package. Would create a cause of action if a child is born alive after an abortion and the child is then neglected through failure to provide medial care after birth. OBAMA VOTED “NO”

    April 26, 2007: Q: What us your view on the decision on partial-birth abortion and your reaction to most of the public agreeing with the court’s holding?
    A: “I think that most Americans recognize that this is a profoundly difficult issue for the women and families who make these decisions. They don’t make them casually. And I trust women to make these decisions in conjunction with their doctors and their families and their clergy. And I think that’s where most Americans are. Now, when you describe a specific procedure that accounts for less than 1% of the abortions that take place, then naturally, people get concerned, and I think legitimately so. But the broader issue here is: Do women have the right to make these profoundly difficult decisions? And I trust them to do it. There is a broader issue: Can we move past some of the debates around which we disagree and can we start talking about the things we do agree on? Reducing teen pregnancy; making it less likely for women to find themselves in these circumstances.”

    April 13, 2008: Q: The terms pro-choice and pro-life, do they encapsulate that reality in our 21st Century setting and can we find common ground?
    A: “I absolutely think we can find common ground. And it requires a couple of things. It requires us to acknowledge that there is a moral dimension to abortion, which I think that all too often those of us who are pro-choice have not talked about or tried to tamp down. I think that’s a mistake because I think all of us understand that it is a wrenching choice for anybody to think about. People of good will can exist on both sides. That nobody wishes to be placed in a circumstance where they are even confronted with the choice of abortion. How we determine what’s right at that moment, I think, people of good will can differ. And if we can acknowledge that much, then we can certainly agree on the fact that we should be doing everything we can to avoid unwanted pregnancies that might even lead somebody to consider having an abortion.”

    April 27, 2008: “On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I’ve said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and many of the bills that came before me didn’t have that. Part of the reason they didn’t have it was purposeful, because those who are opposed to abortion have a moral calling to try to oppose what they think is immoral. Oftentimes what they were trying to do was to polarize the debate and make it more difficult for people, so that they could try to bring an end to abortions overall. As president, my goal is to bring people together, to listen to them, and I don’t think that’s any Republican out there who I’ve worked with who would say that I don’t listen to them, I don’t respect their ideas, I don’t understand their perspective. And my goal is to get us out of this polarizing debate where we’re always trying to score cheap political points and actually get things done.”

    — If those straddling-both-sides-of-the-issue taking-no-firm-stand-on-any-fixed-position responses thrill you, then more power to ya.

    Icy Truth (3aa3c0)

  132. Lest we forget his greatest hit: “I’ve got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

    Icy Truth (3aa3c0)

  133. So Obama sees babies as a “punishment”? No wonder he favors abortion…

    Casual sex is supposed to be consequence-free, dontchaknow…

    Drumwaster (5ccf59)

  134. A special gift for “love2008″, from The Holy Qur’an – Chapter 56 (Al-Waaqe’ah, ‘The Inevitable’), verses 27-56:

    Those of the right side, will be on the right side. In lush orchards; fragrant fruits; extended shade; abundant water. Many fruits. Never ending; never forbidden. Luxurious furnishings. We create for them mates, never previously touched; perfectly matched, for those on the right side. Many from the early generations; many from the later generations.

    Those of the left, will be on the left. In misery and inferno, even their shade is hot. Never cool, never tolerable. They used to be rich. They insisted on the great blasphemy. They said, “After we die and turn to dust and bones, we get resurrected? Does this include our forefathers?” Say, “The early generations and the later generations, will be summoned to a meeting on a predetermined day. Then you, O disbelieving strayers, will eat from the trees of bitterness, filling your bellies therefrom. Then drinking on top of it hellish drinks. Then adding drinks of sand.” Such is their share on the Day of Judgment.

    — You will note that in this case there are no bold-type words. That is because, other than presenting the verses in prose form, this time I did not change a thing.

    Icy Truth (3aa3c0)

  135. Well, I see that PP’s resident abortion-that-lived decided to stick his nose in here. Let’s eavesdrop, shall we?

    Ship’s Captain: I’m sorry, but I’m afraid I’m going to have to bar you from the aft section of the ship for the rest of the cruise.
    Lois: Oh, we are so sorry. Peter, what the hell did you think you were doing?
    Peter: Lois, it is called the “poop deck.” That is why I pooped there.
    Ship’s Captain: You’re disgusting!
    Peter: And you’re misleading.

    Icy Truth (3aa3c0)


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