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	<title>Comments on: More Viciousness at the L.A. Times About Tony Snow</title>
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		<title>By: susan ketner</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan ketner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Oh my gosh, as a liberal I could not be more ashamed of the people  who left such mean, mean vile, ill-mannered and rude comments about a man who lost his life to cancer.  Are you people for real?  Then you tell me that Bush( whose policies I completely reject) is evil.  Take a moment for some introspection, people. If this is the new brand of liberalism then we are lost , completely lost.  I have noticed a progression of real ugliness and hatefulness on the part of Liberals, but this is much worse than I thought.  You are no better than the redneck conservatives you make fun of and revile everday.  Please stop this and think about what you are becoming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b></b> Oh my gosh, as a liberal I could not be more ashamed of the people  who left such mean, mean vile, ill-mannered and rude comments about a man who lost his life to cancer.  Are you people for real?  Then you tell me that Bush( whose policies I completely reject) is evil.  Take a moment for some introspection, people. If this is the new brand of liberalism then we are lost , completely lost.  I have noticed a progression of real ugliness and hatefulness on the part of Liberals, but this is much worse than I thought.  You are no better than the redneck conservatives you make fun of and revile everday.  Please stop this and think about what you are becoming.</p>
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		<title>By: Mookiesmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mookiesmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a world where people would try to sell their own children on eBay if they weren&#039;t told not to, it&#039;s pretty evident that the LA Times knew exactly what they were doing when they granted the lowest common denominator discretion to freely &quot;express themselves&quot; in this innapropriate forum.  How very lacking in class, grace and compassion are these tactless &quot;free speakers&quot; - How shameful the LA Times for encouraging this bad behavior. The utter lack of conscience displayed here puts in sharp relief the character, dignity and poise of the man these comments were meant to besmirch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a world where people would try to sell their own children on eBay if they weren&#8217;t told not to, it&#8217;s pretty evident that the LA Times knew exactly what they were doing when they granted the lowest common denominator discretion to freely &#8220;express themselves&#8221; in this innapropriate forum.  How very lacking in class, grace and compassion are these tactless &#8220;free speakers&#8221; &#8211; How shameful the LA Times for encouraging this bad behavior. The utter lack of conscience displayed here puts in sharp relief the character, dignity and poise of the man these comments were meant to besmirch.</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on any publication that would defame a man before he can be laid to rest. I guess you were never taught respect for the departed. May Tony Snow rest in peace, and his family find comfort in the memories as the celebrate his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on any publication that would defame a man before he can be laid to rest. I guess you were never taught respect for the departed. May Tony Snow rest in peace, and his family find comfort in the memories as the celebrate his life.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a first-time reader here I was surprised at some of the comments about Tony Snow.  Clearly, some are confused by the difference between a &quot;right&quot; and a &quot;duty.&quot;  I may have a right to speak, but the right does not imply a compulsion to speak.  Just because I &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; do something does not mean I &lt;i&gt;must&lt;/i&gt; do it, or even that I &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; do it.  Freedom of speech also includes the right to say nothing, as well as the responsibility to use it wisely.

Some of these comments are offensive and hurtful and serve no real purpose.  They do not change what Mr. Snow did or who he was.  I never met him and only know him from what others say and what I personally heard or saw through the media.  He seemed like the kind of guy you would want for a neighbor.  I wish I could have met him.  Now I can only offer my condolences to, and my prayers for, his family as they rebuild their lives without him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a first-time reader here I was surprised at some of the comments about Tony Snow.  Clearly, some are confused by the difference between a &#8220;right&#8221; and a &#8220;duty.&#8221;  I may have a right to speak, but the right does not imply a compulsion to speak.  Just because I <i>can</i> do something does not mean I <i>must</i> do it, or even that I <i>should</i> do it.  Freedom of speech also includes the right to say nothing, as well as the responsibility to use it wisely.</p>
<p>Some of these comments are offensive and hurtful and serve no real purpose.  They do not change what Mr. Snow did or who he was.  I never met him and only know him from what others say and what I personally heard or saw through the media.  He seemed like the kind of guy you would want for a neighbor.  I wish I could have met him.  Now I can only offer my condolences to, and my prayers for, his family as they rebuild their lives without him.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was not going to contribute to the McCain campaign, but after reading this worthless journalism, I will, just because I do not want left-wing loons in the White House that are so full of HATE that they would wish ill on such a good man.   I refuse to believe this fabulous country we call America, has lost its compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not going to contribute to the McCain campaign, but after reading this worthless journalism, I will, just because I do not want left-wing loons in the White House that are so full of HATE that they would wish ill on such a good man.   I refuse to believe this fabulous country we call America, has lost its compassion.</p>
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		<title>By: Tinia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tinia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel somber right now.  I can not believe that there are people who really think thoughts of destruction and vile against another human, especially one who has just passed away.  Come on let his widow and children grieve. 

I agree with #28, Jenny.  There are so many tyrants in the world that plot and execute pure evil acts, Tony Snow was nothing near this kind of evil.  Disagree with his politics fine, but to say LIES BRING CANCER and REJOICING OVER A DAY FREE OF TONY SNOW is absolutely evil in of itself.   Even if you didn&#039;t agree with him, there is no cause for this kind of slander.  

LA Times what the hell?  What goes around comes around....watch out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel somber right now.  I can not believe that there are people who really think thoughts of destruction and vile against another human, especially one who has just passed away.  Come on let his widow and children grieve. </p>
<p>I agree with #28, Jenny.  There are so many tyrants in the world that plot and execute pure evil acts, Tony Snow was nothing near this kind of evil.  Disagree with his politics fine, but to say LIES BRING CANCER and REJOICING OVER A DAY FREE OF TONY SNOW is absolutely evil in of itself.   Even if you didn&#8217;t agree with him, there is no cause for this kind of slander.  </p>
<p>LA Times what the hell?  What goes around comes around&#8230;.watch out.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best tribute to that great and good man, Tony Snow, would be to refrain from answering these vile hatemongers in kind.

That being said, the desire to punch some of their lights out is nearly irresistible!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best tribute to that great and good man, Tony Snow, would be to refrain from answering these vile hatemongers in kind.</p>
<p>That being said, the desire to punch some of their lights out is nearly irresistible!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that I never come across any of you sick and inhumane people that would say those terrible things about Tony Snow. If I do meet you I&#039;m afraid I might have to end your pathetic lives. It was bad enough that as a Veitnam Vet, I had to endure your garbage, but I will not put up with your comments about a man that just did his job and did it well. 
You so called PEOPLE lack the guts to do this country any good and you will pay. Give me your names so I can look you up when I come out to LA.
I&#039;ld like the opportunity to carry through with what I say.
This country will survive and grow without you cowards.
Thanks,
Once a Marine always a Marine
I&#039;m willing to die for my country are you?

[&lt;em&gt;I doubt I&#039;ll ever see this commenter again, and his threats are supremely unlikely to lead to actual violence since most of these LAT commenters are anonymous, but I&#039;ll just interject to say: please, no threats of violence -- even to unnamed rude and classless morons.  OK?  -- Patterico&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that I never come across any of you sick and inhumane people that would say those terrible things about Tony Snow. If I do meet you I&#8217;m afraid I might have to end your pathetic lives. It was bad enough that as a Veitnam Vet, I had to endure your garbage, but I will not put up with your comments about a man that just did his job and did it well.<br />
You so called PEOPLE lack the guts to do this country any good and you will pay. Give me your names so I can look you up when I come out to LA.<br />
I&#8217;ld like the opportunity to carry through with what I say.<br />
This country will survive and grow without you cowards.<br />
Thanks,<br />
Once a Marine always a Marine<br />
I&#8217;m willing to die for my country are you?</p>
<p>[<em>I doubt I'll ever see this commenter again, and his threats are supremely unlikely to lead to actual violence since most of these LAT commenters are anonymous, but I'll just interject to say: please, no threats of violence -- even to unnamed rude and classless morons.  OK?  -- Patterico</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: Orion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse Helms was a peculiar kind of racist.  He had no problem hiring blacks on his Senate staff, his door was open to any of his constituents regardless of color, and in his last few months in office he pushed through millions of dollars in AIDS relief funding for Africa.  I don&#039;t think &quot;racist&quot; per se was the right charge to make against him.  He was bigotted against homosexuals; there&#039;s no doubt of that.  He was a segegationist who seemed to sincerely believe the races would be better off living apart.  I&#039;ve always put him as Reason #3 or 4 for why we need Congressional Term limits.  He was &quot;Old South&quot;, not necessarily in a bad way, but trying to represent the interests of the &quot;New South&quot; that&#039;s risen up in the past couple of decades.  They might have been better represented by someone of their generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse Helms was a peculiar kind of racist.  He had no problem hiring blacks on his Senate staff, his door was open to any of his constituents regardless of color, and in his last few months in office he pushed through millions of dollars in AIDS relief funding for Africa.  I don&#8217;t think &#8220;racist&#8221; per se was the right charge to make against him.  He was bigotted against homosexuals; there&#8217;s no doubt of that.  He was a segegationist who seemed to sincerely believe the races would be better off living apart.  I&#8217;ve always put him as Reason #3 or 4 for why we need Congressional Term limits.  He was &#8220;Old South&#8221;, not necessarily in a bad way, but trying to represent the interests of the &#8220;New South&#8221; that&#8217;s risen up in the past couple of decades.  They might have been better represented by someone of their generation.</p>
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		<title>By: SMK</title>
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		<dc:creator>SMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conservative Tony Snow, will be missed by intelligent thinkers. He was a college graduate of philosophy.  And, insightful people always recognized his superb proficiency for reasoning and analyzing social, cultural, and political circumstance. 

The liberal LA Times allowed hateful comments to be posted regarding Snow&#039;s obituary, perhaps because he was a proponent of ideas and opinions  different from their own liberal viewpoints. 

Besides their disrespectful comments about a man who was an intelligent voice in a wilderness of irrational thinking, those self-loathing hateful non-thinkers would be wise to contemplate the neurosis of their own liberal behavior.  

It has been said, that today, liberalism has become a mental disorder.  Hopefully, one day it will be treatable - perhaps after more failed liberal politicians and policies transform our lives into an unworkable and despotic chaos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conservative Tony Snow, will be missed by intelligent thinkers. He was a college graduate of philosophy.  And, insightful people always recognized his superb proficiency for reasoning and analyzing social, cultural, and political circumstance. </p>
<p>The liberal LA Times allowed hateful comments to be posted regarding Snow&#8217;s obituary, perhaps because he was a proponent of ideas and opinions  different from their own liberal viewpoints. </p>
<p>Besides their disrespectful comments about a man who was an intelligent voice in a wilderness of irrational thinking, those self-loathing hateful non-thinkers would be wise to contemplate the neurosis of their own liberal behavior.  </p>
<p>It has been said, that today, liberalism has become a mental disorder.  Hopefully, one day it will be treatable &#8211; perhaps after more failed liberal politicians and policies transform our lives into an unworkable and despotic chaos.</p>
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