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	<title>Comments on: Appeals Court: Paper Money Discriminates Against the Blind</title>
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	<description>Harangues that just make sense</description>
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		<title>By: EW1(SG)</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/05/21/appeals-court-paper-money-discriminates-against-the-blind/comment-page-2/#comment-343146</link>
		<dc:creator>EW1(SG)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 11:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam J:&lt;blockquote&gt; which makes sense since they’re forced to rely on expensive, inaccurate and bulky machines&lt;/blockquote&gt;Having worked in the coin-op industry for a while,&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m baffled that you &lt;strike&gt;don’t&lt;/strike&gt; think&lt;/blockquote&gt;that inexpensive money readers aren&#039;t relatively easily available.

When was the last time a vending machine gave you incorrect change?

(Which happens, which is why there is usually a sticker that says &quot;For service call ...&quot;  It is, after all a mechanical device subject to wear and tear.  But if they were as unreliable as you suggest, there &lt;b&gt;wouldn&#039;t be&lt;/b&gt; a coin-op industry.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam J:<br />
<blockquote> which makes sense since they’re forced to rely on expensive, inaccurate and bulky machines</p></blockquote>
<p>Having worked in the coin-op industry for a while,<br />
<blockquote>I’m baffled that you <strike>don’t</strike> think</p></blockquote>
<p>that inexpensive money readers aren&#8217;t relatively easily available.</p>
<p>When was the last time a vending machine gave you incorrect change?</p>
<p>(Which happens, which is why there is usually a sticker that says &#8220;For service call &#8230;&#8221;  It is, after all a mechanical device subject to wear and tear.  But if they were as unreliable as you suggest, there <b>wouldn&#8217;t be</b> a coin-op industry.)</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/05/21/appeals-court-paper-money-discriminates-against-the-blind/comment-page-2/#comment-343067</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our currency also discriminates against the illiterate like Levi.  How can we solve this ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our currency also discriminates against the illiterate like Levi.  How can we solve this ?</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/05/21/appeals-court-paper-money-discriminates-against-the-blind/comment-page-2/#comment-343066</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam - this was not an ADA case.  That is part of the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam &#8211; this was not an ADA case.  That is part of the point.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/05/21/appeals-court-paper-money-discriminates-against-the-blind/comment-page-2/#comment-343065</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our current paper currency discriminates against people with no hands too.  Maybe they should have to cover every bill with a sticky substance, or velcro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our current paper currency discriminates against people with no hands too.  Maybe they should have to cover every bill with a sticky substance, or velcro.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam J</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/05/21/appeals-court-paper-money-discriminates-against-the-blind/comment-page-2/#comment-343062</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SPQR- tell me where the case says that- the case says currency only identifiable by sight denies the blind meaningful access, which makes sense since they&#039;re forced to rely on expensive, inaccurate and bulky machines or have blind faith in others (no pun intended).  I&#039;m baffled that you don&#039;t think Courts can&#039;t use the ADA can force Congress to give meaningful access here, simply because it&#039;s currency.  Next you&#039;ll tell me that can&#039;t force them to have a ramp into the post office, cause Congress has the authority to establish post offices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPQR- tell me where the case says that- the case says currency only identifiable by sight denies the blind meaningful access, which makes sense since they&#8217;re forced to rely on expensive, inaccurate and bulky machines or have blind faith in others (no pun intended).  I&#8217;m baffled that you don&#8217;t think Courts can&#8217;t use the ADA can force Congress to give meaningful access here, simply because it&#8217;s currency.  Next you&#8217;ll tell me that can&#8217;t force them to have a ramp into the post office, cause Congress has the authority to establish post offices.</p>
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		<title>By: stef</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/05/21/appeals-court-paper-money-discriminates-against-the-blind/comment-page-2/#comment-342950</link>
		<dc:creator>stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 01:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a far leap from that to stating that the nation’s currency, the specification of which is wholly in Congress’ hands, has to change. &quot;

When redesigns are done, isn&#039;t it the treasury that does them, not Congress?  I don&#039;t see why you fetishize Congress here. They&#039;ve clearly handed off the policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a far leap from that to stating that the nation’s currency, the specification of which is wholly in Congress’ hands, has to change. &#8221;</p>
<p>When redesigns are done, isn&#8217;t it the treasury that does them, not Congress?  I don&#8217;t see why you fetishize Congress here. They&#8217;ve clearly handed off the policy.</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 22:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam J., a weak argument in itself.    Congress never made a policy decision about the currency.  They stated that disabled people would not be disqualified from &lt;i&gt;participating&lt;/i&gt; in federal programs and activities &quot;solely&quot; as a result of their handicap.   There is a far leap from that to stating that the nation&#039;s currency, the specification of which is wholly in Congress&#039; hands, has to change.  That&#039;s a policy choice that courts are poorly equipped to decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam J., a weak argument in itself.    Congress never made a policy decision about the currency.  They stated that disabled people would not be disqualified from <i>participating</i> in federal programs and activities &#8220;solely&#8221; as a result of their handicap.   There is a far leap from that to stating that the nation&#8217;s currency, the specification of which is wholly in Congress&#8217; hands, has to change.  That&#8217;s a policy choice that courts are poorly equipped to decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam J</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/05/21/appeals-court-paper-money-discriminates-against-the-blind/comment-page-2/#comment-342846</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SPQR- Congress did act, who do you think created the statute that the judges interpreted?  You&#039;re blaming judges for doing their job,  a judge&#039;s job is to interpret Congress&#039; laws. Here they are interpreting the effect of a vague statute on the fact that our currency doesn&#039;t accomodate the blind.  Congress made a policy decision in creating a statute who&#039;s interpretation is left open for judges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPQR- Congress did act, who do you think created the statute that the judges interpreted?  You&#8217;re blaming judges for doing their job,  a judge&#8217;s job is to interpret Congress&#8217; laws. Here they are interpreting the effect of a vague statute on the fact that our currency doesn&#8217;t accomodate the blind.  Congress made a policy decision in creating a statute who&#8217;s interpretation is left open for judges.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/05/21/appeals-court-paper-money-discriminates-against-the-blind/comment-page-2/#comment-342788</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 12:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are all just racist sexist homophobes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all just racist sexist homophobes.</p>
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		<title>By: EW1(SG)</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/05/21/appeals-court-paper-money-discriminates-against-the-blind/comment-page-2/#comment-342787</link>
		<dc:creator>EW1(SG)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 11:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81 Kevin Murphy:&lt;blockquote&gt;You could solve this by putting a tiny chip inside each bill — something unpowered like RFID but simpler, with maybe a 1 inch range.&lt;/blockquote&gt;There already is, which is how bill changers work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81 Kevin Murphy:<br />
<blockquote>You could solve this by putting a tiny chip inside each bill — something unpowered like RFID but simpler, with maybe a 1 inch range.</p></blockquote>
<p>There already is, which is how bill changers work.</p>
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