Comments on: Anita Busch Calls for Investigation of Chuck Philips’s Pellicano Reporting http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/ Harangues that just make sense Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:29:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Captain Oboe http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-351099 Captain Oboe Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:00:04 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-351099 This is just one chapter in a long story of poor reporting. This is tilting at windmills. It's a waste of time crying foul against a paper that buys ink by the barrel. The Los Angeles Times might pose to hold a 'public trust' to its dwindling readers but it is a private organization serving stockholders for profit, not the communuty for free. It is an advertising delivery system, not a source of news in the 21st century. Like a bad TV show, if you don't like the paper, just don't read it and source your news someplace else. Seems Angelinos are increasingly doing just that. This is just one chapter in a long story of poor reporting. This is tilting at windmills. It’s a waste of time crying foul against a paper that buys ink by the barrel. The Los Angeles Times might pose to hold a ‘public trust’ to its dwindling readers but it is a private organization serving stockholders for profit, not the communuty for free. It is an advertising delivery system, not a source of news in the 21st century. Like a bad TV show, if you don’t like the paper, just don’t read it and source your news someplace else. Seems Angelinos are increasingly doing just that.

]]> By: Johnny http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341815 Johnny Mon, 19 May 2008 13:22:19 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341815 Even more predictibkly, a moronic dribbling idiot like Jungle Jim, can't think of anything else but the Clintons to mention. It's so hilarious how losers like him have this love affair with mentioning the Clintons...and Obama is going to win anyway, so these stupid idiots will have the results of nearly 20 years of painting the Clintons as evil being- the election of Barack Obama- potentially our most liberal president ever. WHAT A BUNCH OF MORONS!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Even more predictibkly, a moronic dribbling idiot like Jungle Jim, can’t think of anything else but the Clintons to mention.

It’s so hilarious how losers like him have this love affair with mentioning the Clintons…and Obama is going to win anyway, so these stupid idiots will have the results of nearly 20 years of painting the Clintons as evil being- the election of Barack Obama- potentially our most liberal president ever.

WHAT A BUNCH OF MORONS!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

]]> By: Jungle Jim http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341611 Jungle Jim Sat, 17 May 2008 02:19:23 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341611 But predictably, the NYT article makes no mention of Pellicano's ties to the Clintons. But predictably, the NYT article makes no mention of Pellicano’s ties to the Clintons.

]]> By: Cue http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341594 Cue Sat, 17 May 2008 00:06:53 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341594 The Pellicano coverage by the Times offers good insight into the kind of lost equilibrium that results in a newspaper's circulation hitting terminal free fall. If people don't believe you they stop reading you. And this is what has happened here. It was thug-like writing where the victims were portrayed as loser crybabies who didn't know there place or in the case of Anita, had it coming. The prosecutors got smeared in hit pieces and the trial, when even written about, was described as dreadfully boring with this whole undertone of wishing it would all just go away. The loss of credibility of the Times is deserved. The Pellicano coverage by the Times offers good insight into the kind of lost equilibrium that results in a newspaper’s circulation hitting terminal free fall. If people don’t believe you they stop reading you. And this is what has happened here.

It was thug-like writing where the victims were portrayed as loser crybabies who didn’t know there place or in the case of Anita, had it coming. The prosecutors got smeared in hit pieces and the trial, when even written about, was described as dreadfully boring with this whole undertone of wishing it would all just go away. The loss of credibility of the Times is deserved.

]]> By: GH http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341584 GH Fri, 16 May 2008 21:45:41 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341584 The Times, the local prosecutors and the local police failed the people of Los Angeles. The trial revealed that Pellicano and what he did was an open secret, that opposing lawyers would even gird themselves for him by advising their clients to get their homes swept for bugs. Seems everyone knew. And the racket would have gone on and on but for the federal government stepping in. In a 76 out of 77 count federal conviction, not one local inquiry resulted in a single state charge. Chuck Phillips nothing-to-see-here reporting on Pellicano turned a lot of people off of the Times. The Times, the local prosecutors and the local police failed the people of Los Angeles. The trial revealed that Pellicano and what he did was an open secret, that opposing lawyers would even gird themselves for him by advising their clients to get their homes swept for bugs. Seems everyone knew. And the racket would have gone on and on but for the federal government stepping in. In a 76 out of 77 count federal conviction, not one local inquiry resulted in a single state charge.

Chuck Phillips nothing-to-see-here reporting on Pellicano turned a lot of people off of the Times.

]]> By: Susan http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341552 Susan Fri, 16 May 2008 17:41:12 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341552 Excellent job reporting this. This may explain why the Times completed missed the story and then, once they got their asses kicked by the NY Times on Pellicano stories, the ran stories that suggested the charges were bogus and the story was really no scandal at all. Once again, shame on the LA Times. Excellent job reporting this. This may explain why the Times completed missed the story and then, once they got their asses kicked by the NY Times on Pellicano stories, the ran stories that suggested the charges were bogus and the story was really no scandal at all. Once again, shame on the LA Times.

]]> By: KateCoe http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341542 KateCoe Fri, 16 May 2008 15:53:44 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341542 I see Kevin Roderick tries to downplay the Newton connection, but then, he can't afford to alienate his pals down on Spring Street--the few that are left, anyway. And what's Carla Hall doing off the kitty-cat beat? Why does the LAT have an in-house lawyer who's married to a reporter? One or the other, but both? <a href="http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2008/05/anita_busch_links_pellica.php" rel="nofollow"></a> I see Kevin Roderick tries to downplay the Newton connection, but then, he can’t afford to alienate his pals down on Spring Street–the few that are left, anyway. And what’s Carla Hall doing off the kitty-cat beat?

Why does the LAT have an in-house lawyer who’s married to a reporter? One or the other, but both?

]]> By: Another Drew http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341541 Another Drew Fri, 16 May 2008 15:51:44 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341541 Los Angeles is still an industry-town: Hollywood. Pelicano's beat was Hollywood. The Times goes out of its' way to do what it can for the industry, and Pelicano was just an extension of that industry. Why wouldn't they be in bed together? What better way to get favourable treatment in the pages of the Times, than to leverage ad placement against coverage (of course, we know that has NEVER happened at the Times, don't we?)? Los Angeles is still an industry-town: Hollywood.

Pelicano’s beat was Hollywood. The Times goes out of its’ way to do what it can for the industry, and Pelicano was just an extension of that industry. Why wouldn’t they be in bed together? What better way to get favourable treatment in the pages of the Times, than to leverage ad placement against coverage (of course, we know that has NEVER happened at the Times, don’t we?)?

]]> By: redc1c4 http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341510 redc1c4 Fri, 16 May 2008 09:35:49 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341510 Raymond Chandler would have, and James Ellroy could, have a field day with this: the investigative press has become the corrupt, easy to buy, slander machine for the powers that be. what a brilliant idea! you can get in legal trouble for bribing a politician or a judge, but there's no law about paying off the press... /native-cynic Raymond Chandler would have, and James Ellroy could, have a field day with this: the investigative press has become the corrupt, easy to buy, slander machine for the powers that be.

what a brilliant idea! you can get in legal trouble for bribing a politician or a judge, but there’s no law about paying off the press…

/native-cynic

]]> By: Jem http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341507 Jem Fri, 16 May 2008 08:36:08 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/05/16/anita-busch-calls-for-investigation-of-chuck-philipss-pellicano-reporting/#comment-341507 The journalists could be a public institution, but they never seem to live up to the lofty ideals they expect of everyone else. The people have a right to know what criminal conspiracies the LA Times is involved in. But for too many people out there, this is a purely partisan battle. The journalists could be a public institution, but they never seem to live up to the lofty ideals they expect of everyone else.

The people have a right to know what criminal conspiracies the LA Times is involved in. But for too many people out there, this is a purely partisan battle.

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