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5/12/2008

The Ron Paul Revolution (Updated)

Filed under: 2008 Election — DRJ @ 11:04 am



[Guest post by DRJ]

The LA Times’ blog Top of the Ticket reports that Ron Paul and his supporters are quietly planning a revolution for the Republican convention in St. Paul, MN:

“Virtually all the nation’s political attention in recent weeks has focused on the compelling state-by-state presidential nomination struggle between two Democrats and the potential for party-splitting strife over there.

But in the meantime, quietly, largely under the radar of most people, the forces of Rep. Ron Paul have been organizing across the country to stage an embarrassing public revolt against Sen. John McCain when Republicans gather for their national convention in Minnesota at the beginning of September.”

Hillary Clinton claims that pledged delegates can change their votes but apparently Ron Paul and his followers are having more success than Hillary in subverting or substituting delegates. In late April, reports surfaced that Paul’s minions were taking over county groups in Missouri and Nevada in an effort to substitute Paul delegates for McCain’s.

After each report at the Top of the Ticket, loyal Ron Paul followers appear in the comments sections to proclaim their allegiance. One comment claims Paul will field 600 delegates at the GOP convention, which would be quite a feat since he’s currently listed with 19 pledged delegates. Another comment unwittingly channels New Yorker movie critic Pauline Kael:

“I’m so sick of hearing that Ron Paul got 8-10% in primaries! Am I the only one who knows that the selections in this country are TOTALLY compromised!!!! Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate I see signs for, bumpers stickers for, have volunteers knock on my door for. He has my vote even if I have to write him in come Nov. If ya’ll don’t want to die on your knees with your family’s heads blown off before your eyes, I suggest you do the same!!!!!!!!!!!!”

But my favorite is the commenter who notes it’s no coincidence the GOP convention is being held in ST. PAUL, MN.

Maybe there will be fireworks at the Republican Convention after all.

UPDATE: I should also mention that former Georgia congressman Bob Barr announced today he is running for President as a Libertarian.

— DRJ

33 Responses to “The Ron Paul Revolution (Updated)”

  1. It will be the same Ron Paul Revolution … ie., a fizzle.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  2. The Paul-bots are relentless as the LaRouche-ites, and about as sane.

    PCD (5c49b0)

  3. The MSM could still have a field day with this. The news, and namely the Republican Convention, for most Americans will be where the TV cameras are aimed. Nothing could help Barack-I-Am-Better-Than-Viagra-For-The-Media Obama more.

    nk (8f20b5)

  4. I don’t think RP’s supporters have the brainpower and experience to pull something like this off, since they could be doing something similar now if they wanted. They could be going to McCain’s public appearances in order to ask him the questions the MSM won’t, but to my knowledge no RP supporters have done that.

    TLB (e10679)

  5. Darn spam filter. One more try.

    The MSM could still have a field day with this. The news, and namely the Republican Convention, for most Americans will be where the TV cameras are aimed. Nothing could help Barack-I-Am-Better-Than-******-For-The-Media Obama more.

    *This link about something the spam filter apparently does not like

    nk (8f20b5)

  6. Watch a lot of the Youtube stuff on Paul and you will see that a bunch of the ‘supporters’ he has out there are just lefty DU types and worse just helping to keep the pot stirred.

    Sort of like a Kos Konvention but not as disorganized because there are a few Republicans in charge of the planning.

    SlimGuy (ea6549)

  7. He has my vote even if I have to write him in come Nov. If ya’ll don’t want to die on your knees with your family’s heads blown off before your eyes, I suggest you do the same!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    Sane people find ways to ask people to vote for their candidate without completely freaking them out.

    I think this Paulnut is talking about a no-knock police raid/the coming police state, but who the hell knows? If 90% of this country supports Ron Paul, maybe he thinks he can make a difference by gunning down people from the fascist 10%.

    Daryl Herbert (4ecd4c)

  8. Down they street, there is a Perot sign.

    Neo (cba5df)

  9. Very dramatic head line “The Ron Paul Revolution..” Yeah,…right. Like some creatures from outer space. Scary, very scary.

    love2008 (d2a57f)

  10. Daryl,

    Thanks for trying to explain that sentence. I was scratching my head over it.

    Azygos (782e6e)

  11. If the Paultards have so much zeal and respect for luap nor why then don’t they encourage him to run as an Independent? It would be nice to have so many choices– nader, bob barr, mckinney et al.

    Now there’s talk that Huckabee heads the short list for McCain’s running mate. We have such wonderful choices. As much as I loathe the Clintons, they seem a better overall choice in the scheme of things to me. But it certainly is disgusting that the country with 300 million citizens doesn’t have any better choices. Impeach Bush and Cheney now and let moonbat Pelosi have a hand at screwing things up. Dingle or my own beloved asshat Bobby Wexler could be veep.

    Omigawd this country is headed for the crapper. Unlike Matthews the choices give me impotency. Good thing I have such great white guilt over past racism and keeping the brothers down. With luck we can ameliorate the effects of 400 years of racism by choosing obamanation and that slick Chicago political machine. Release blacks from prison, assess whitey reaparations for the AAs, increase affirnative action dramatically, speed up the dhimmification of America with more perks for Islam and dump the unfair rule of capitalism for the benign and highly altrusitic marxism. Ayers and Dorhn can assist in that endeavor. Umgahwah, bang bang, beep, beep, white blood, obama power!

    madmax333 (8a8fda)

  12. Why do you lemmings.Want to Vote for either of the three mainstream candidates.We have some very very important issues facing this Country.You call us RP supporters nuts.My God at least the man can answer a simple question,unlike the other 3 sellouts,The MSM is winning the war over mindless masses in this Country,You people had better pull your heads out your a$$.Or The Country you supposedly love will be gone. Forever

    Rob (b11f41)

  13. Yes, Rob, we call Ron Paul supporters nuts for a simple reason. They act nutty. High percentage of conspiracy theorists with thin contact with reality.

    And actually, Ron Paul can’t answer a simple question. Here it is for Ron Paul: Why do you intentionally court neo-nazi and white supremacist hate groups?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  14. I’ve been in Ron Paul’s district in Texas on business a couple of times this Spring. The “Pauline” guy is right – all one sees there are Ron Paul signs and placards.

    It might help if they had a more cosmopolitan worldview, or at least got out more.

    Joseph Somsel (e5cbf5)

  15. Rob wrote: Why do you lemmings.Want to Vote for either of the three mainstream candidates.We have some very very important issues facing this Country.You call us RP supporters nuts.My God at least the man can answer a simple question,unlike the other 3 sellouts,The MSM is winning the war over mindless masses in this Country,You people had better pull your heads out your a$$.Or The Country you supposedly love will be gone. Forever

    Wow, Rob — with those writing skills of yours(Spacing?Punctuation?capitalization? eh,who needs em) you should be editing The Ron Paul Political Report.

    But semi-seriously: You say,”My God at least the man can answer a simple question…” You mean simple questions like the ones Wolf Blitzer asked him back in January?

    BLITZER: Congressman, there’s a lot of material there. Let me just try figure out, how did this stuff get in these Ron Paul newsletters? Who wrote it?

    PAUL: I have no idea. Have you ever heard a publisher of a magazine not knowing every single thing? The editor is responsible for the daily activities. People came and gone. And there were people who were hired. I don’t know any of their names. I absolutely honestly do not know who wrote those things. But I do know they was a transition, there were changes around and, to me, it’s been rehashed. This is the politics of it all. If it were important enough, why didn’t the people in my district who have heard this for these 10 years or so that this came up and people believe me. Why don’t you believe me and just say look, it’s in there. It’s bad. I recognize that. I had a moral responsibility.

    But that doesn’t mean that you can indirectly charge me as being a racist. That’s what is being done, and yet, I am the most anti- racist because I don’t see people in collective groups. And I practice. Right now, even before this thing broke, guess when our next fundraising day, our next super day, we raised four million one day, six on the next, the next one is on Martin Luther King holiday. I mean, this is it. Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Gandhi, they are the heroes in practice of civil disobedience to try to get the burden of government off our backs.

    And that’s why I am the one that protects the individual blacks who are in the city who are so unfairly being treated and thrown in prison. That’s the message that needs to be heard and I appreciate somebody help and bring that out rather than nitpicking over something done many years ago which I did not write.

    BLITZER: Did you used to read these newsletters? Congressman?

    PAUL: Not back then. There may have been at times that I would. At times. I was in a medical practice. I traveled a lot. I was doing speeches around the country. Very frequently I never did see these. A lot of the things you just read, I wouldn’t have recognized them.

    And the point is it’s not part of my character. The point also is when people get charged they usually have a clip. They have a clip of somebody saying something. A slip of the tongue or something. And then they’re blasted to kingdom come. Nobody has ever heard me say that. They know those are not my thoughts. Therefore the people have not rejected me in Texas.

    In a way this is a bit of a witch hunt. I know there is reason, I don’t say you are unjustified in asking the question but you also have to think of the motivation behind this. Maybe this is part of the anti Ron Paul deal. I got excluded from the debates the other night. Maybe this is knock down on Ron Paul because he’s gaining grounds with the blacks. I’m getting more votes right now and more support from the blacks because they understand what I’m talking about and they trust me.

    If this ineffective, inattentive, disingenuous, thin-skinned nut somehow shoehorns himself into the White House, that will be proof “The Country I supposedly love” is gone already. Forever (period).

    L.N. Smithee (e1f2bf)

  16. There ya go, Rob, two simple questions.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  17. While you guys are wringing your hands over the coming apocalypse, or watching your cholesterol go through the roof with all that buttered popcorn, I’ll just spend more time at the reloading bench. Better to have it and not need it, than the other way around – plus, it doesn’t go stale.

    Another Drew (8018ee)

  18. Yet further proof the Ron Paul is a loon magnet.

    N. O'Brain (9056e2)

  19. Oh, great. Sen. Obama brings us the communist stylings of Frank Marshall Davis, the anarchist/revolutionary stylings of Ayers and Dorhn, the Marxist inspired stylings of Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Otis Moss, Rev. Meeks and his radical college professors.

    Ron Paul brings us the neo-nazis and goose-stepping skinheads.

    McCain ought to ask for the the first debate to be held in Yalta.

    cfbleachers (4040c7)

  20. Ron Paul, the republican Algorabge. Dumb as a box of rocks. Even a pea brain knows when he’s not wanted but not this nut. I’m not a democrat governor (wanting Chaney to take Bush hunting), but can Chaney take Paul hunting and use 00 Buckshot instead of bird shot?

    Scrapiron (c36902)

  21. Deer slugs would be better.

    Another Drew (8018ee)

  22. Ron Paul is what the Republican party used to be. Complete with loons–the gold standardists and others went there because the Democratic Party was so obviously not for them. But the Party has changed over the years–in part, a return to its roots of Lincoln and (T.) Roosevelt. Ron Paul hasn’t. You view of him depends on whether you think that change is good.

    Neonazis or no [and you can guess what I think of Neonazis] he was the only major party candidate whose positions where anything near like mine. Now that he’s not in the running, I will either vote LP or sit out the election. (Depending on whether the LP nominates a Truther.)

    kishnevi (4fe729)

  23. Scrapiron – Bush isn’t dumb enough to violate hunting safety like the guy who got shot.

    BTW– you’re worse than a Paultard, if you’re *wishing* for the death of the President. Go sign up at a college and see if you can get some class.

    Foxfier (74f1c8)

  24. Actually, Foxfier, I don’t think Scrapiron was asking for Cheney to shoot GW, I believe he wanted him to take Ron Paul hunting.
    Now, the good Doctor is not too far gone on the loon scale (unlike most of his supporters), but he does have a bad habit of hangin’ with some strange dudes (not unlike a certain candidate from the left side of the political spectrum).

    My comment is only to recommend against half-way measures. If you’re going to do it, go big!

    Another Drew (8018ee)

  25. Bob Barr as a Libertarian candidate?!? The irony.

    After his seat was combined with another Republican’s in the 2002 redistricting, the LP ran commercials against Barr in the Republican primary, attacking Barr for being a drug war hawk. Barr lost, and the LP publicly gloated.

    Now Barr is part of the LP.

    *Wonderful*

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  26. While you guys are wringing your hands over the coming apocalypse, or watching your cholesterol go through the roof with all that buttered popcorn, I’ll just spend more time at the reloading bench. Better to have it and not need it, than the other way around – plus, it doesn’t go stale.

    Amen brother

    “You can never have too much firepower.” –Billy Rosewood

    Horatio (55069c)

  27. We have some very very important issues facing this Country.

    Yes, Rob, we do.

    You call us RP supporters nuts.

    Oh, not to worry. The adults have checked on one of those important issues, and found that the National Strategic Tinfoil Reserve is fully stocked, so you’ll be okay after the election.

    EW1(SG) (84e813)

  28. Just how well did the paultards calls for boycotting Fox go and their claims of shorting NWS stock? So luap nor can raise campaign monies? Big whoop. How much support comes from DU/ Kossacks/huff loons? Nice that the troofers, white power advocated and assorted other jetsam and flotsam wants to fellate him. Such a bright man who claims he didn’t even know or read what was published under his name. You know, the racist and anti-Joo stuff?

    madmax333 (671642)

  29. like ron paul and bob barr, i want a smaller, less belligerent federal government. i’m old enough to remember when the republican party shared those values.

    assistant devil's advocate (8ee4c8)

  30. assistant devil’s advocate wrote: like ron paul and bob barr, i want a smaller, less belligerent federal government. i’m old enough to remember when the republican party shared those values.

    Uh huh. Well, guess what — now those guys have chosen to ally themselves with anarchist and ACLU loons. Quite a trade-off, eh?

    L.N. Smithee (b048eb)

  31. like ron paul and bob barr, i want a smaller, less belligerent federal government. i’m old enough to remember when the republican party shared those values.

    So do I.

    But only barely…

    Scott Jacobs (fa5e57)

  32. From the Dark Side…
    The Socialist/Marxist influence has been growing so perniciously in this country since FDR’s introduction of these virus’s into the Fed Govt with the “good” intention of fighting the Great Depression, that it appears that the only hope to erradicate this virus will be through a total break-down of the system, not unlike the last societal upheaval we experienced in the 1860’s.

    Our looming (possible) failure to confront and defeat Radical Islam, could well be the external trigger that will unleash this cataclysm upon the land. A retreat from this struggle will loose great strains on the fabric of society that will make the recriminations of the VietNam disaster seem like a family food-fight.

    The great question is: Can the USA re-instill a “republican” form of government, and again be the home of individual freedom and liberty; or, will we be just another whiney, socialist, failed state that marches to the tune of others?

    Another Drew (8018ee)

  33. I think it is great that Republicans have a more conservative option than just McCain. Many others will leave the party like Alan Keyes if the party keeps moving left. Dr. Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party is offering a great message to those upset with the GOP’s track record.

    At very least, we should not want McCain thinking he has a mandate with his form of liberalism.

    PAFreedom (4a1a3c)


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