Patterico's Pontifications

5/7/2008

Hillary for Vice President

Filed under: 2008 Election — DRJ @ 5:26 pm



[Guest post by DRJ]

George Stephanoulos told ABC’s Charlie Gibson that he thinks Hillary Clinton is staying in the race because she believes there is a slim chance she can win. If she does quit, it will only be after wins in West Virginia or Kentucky.

He also thinks she would accept the VP slot “if it was offered in the right way.” He’s not sure Obama will offer.

— DRJ

32 Responses to “Hillary for Vice President”

  1. I always thought Bill would be better for Vice.

    Steverino (d6232c) — 5/7/2008 @ 5:45 pm

  2. Competing theory: Hillary stays a candidate but throws underhand until WV and KY vote. She’ll carry the states, and Obama would look pathetic losing to someone who withdrew.

    steve (0b2a83) — 5/7/2008 @ 6:25 pm

  3. I have a hard time believing Hillary would throw in the towel but I’m sure there’s enormous (and growing) pressure on her to do so. However, she doesn’t seem to be the kind of person who cares about pressure or the welfare of the Democratic Party. In fact, she’s at her best when she thinks everyone is against her.

    DRJ (a431ca) — 5/7/2008 @ 6:40 pm

  4. Excuse the pedantry, but it’s “Stephanopoulos.”

    steve (0b2a83) — 5/7/2008 @ 6:53 pm

  5. #4 my personal rule is if a person has more than 7 letters or more than 2 consonants in a row in their name and i mis-pronounce/mis-spell it, its not my fault!

    chas (a235bf) — 5/7/2008 @ 6:57 pm

  6. Unless Obama thought enough angry and disapointed Hilary supporters would defect to McCain and cost him the election he would be a fool to offer Hilary the VP slot.

    Can you imagine trying to keep her from sucking the oxygen from the room. Of always worrying about Bill. LOL remembering Vince Foster.

    Amused Observer (3bc861) — 5/7/2008 @ 6:59 pm

  7. The consensus I see is that it is a loser for her. If Obama wins, he will run again for a second term and she would be too old to run in 2016. Her better options are to run for governor of New York, assuming he may lose, or to accept (demand) a nomination to the Supreme Court as the price of supporting him at the convention.

    Mike K (86bddb) — 5/7/2008 @ 8:28 pm

  8. Sen. Clinton as VP sorta undercuts Sen. Obama’s message, and doesn’t get him a whole lot.

    aphrael (db0b5a) — 5/7/2008 @ 8:36 pm

  9. Prepare for next wave of Obamamania – rumor has it even making him compete in an election is going to be officially declared RACIST by an international tribunal of race card officials – making way for a charlemagne style coronation where he will be declared “greatest human being of all time.” Rich white people throughout san francisco, seattle, and latte college town usa will be swooning in the aisles with arms aloft officially declared “racism free”.
    Stay tuned the fun is just beginning. The spin will be that the time when McCain yelled out “damn!” when he stubbed his toe is exactly equivalent to Obama spending twenty years in the United Church of Hate Whitey Pass the Tray I Have Mercedes Payments.

    Jack Klompus (b796b4) — 5/7/2008 @ 9:12 pm

  10. According to the prediction markets (intrade.com) she still has an 8% chance of winning nomination.

    Sunk costs are sunk. What does it cost to stay in the game (including opportunity costs) vs. 8% of the value of the nomination (or 5% of value of presidency)?

    TomHynes (6c3e12) — 5/7/2008 @ 9:15 pm

  11. Can we as a party embarking upon the most historic and unique situation in the history of American politics; Get R done! Mrs. Veep for the sake of all likeminded American patriot’s of this great Nation; let’s just move it along; for it is written, “the meek shall inherit the earth.” However, you and your family are dear to myself and many, many others voters. Wherefore, I plea onto you let’s make History, now & later…….
    God Bless All

    7 for Mankind

    Eric Youngblood (ea8efd) — 5/7/2008 @ 9:29 pm

  12. Putting a kid in the oval office is insane.You can’t talk to the millions that hate us.They want to see American blood run down every city street.Get a grip.These times are not going to be a fairy tale for our childern and grandchildern ten years from now.God Bless us all if we elect Mr.Obama.PEACE!

    Ben H (690787) — 5/7/2008 @ 9:34 pm

  13. Obama will never offer Hillary the Vice Presidency. He’d have to hire a food taster.

    Ken Hahn (7742d5) — 5/7/2008 @ 10:39 pm

  14. I don’t see him offering or her accepting the VP slot.

    OTOH if she should get the nomination, I don’t know who would want to be her VP at all. POTUS decides how much authority to give VPOTUS, constitutionally, VPOTUS has two official functions: President of the Senate and to take over as POTUS should POTUS become unable to carry out the duties of the office.

    I just don’t see her giving up any power…

    I don’t see him giving her any kind of power as VPOTUS, should he offer and she accept…

    kimsch (2ce939) — 5/7/2008 @ 10:41 pm

  15. Beautiful, Jack Klompus… beautiful.

    rumor has it even making him compete in an election is going to be officially declared RACIST by an international tribunal of race card officials – making way for a charlemagne style coronation where he will be declared “greatest human being of all time.” Rich white people throughout san francisco, seattle, and latte college town usa will be swooning in the aisles with arms aloft officially declared “racism free”.

    Vermont Neighbor (747787) — 5/7/2008 @ 11:35 pm

  16. His highness will not have a vice-presidential candidate. He will not lower himself to be like other presidential candidates who had to run with someone else.

    edward cropper (ef096b) — 5/8/2008 @ 4:43 am

  17. doubts that obama will pick hilly for VP. for one thing it steps on his message and continues the drama of 2 rival camps. much better to pick someone like an ed rendell who is smooth, sharp and would aide in healing the party split, not to mention bring a major state (PA.) firmly into the obama camp.

    james conrad (7cd809) — 5/8/2008 @ 6:53 am

  18. #17 Indeed, it would surely provide a balanced ticket of two corrupt big city machines- Philly and Chi-town. Fast Eddie Rendell could provide oodles of dead voters for Obamalamadingdong. Any close election would get a great boost from more illegal dem ballots. And Eddie is so personable too.

    madmax333 (d981e4) — 5/8/2008 @ 7:31 am

  19. “Sen. Clinton as VP sorta undercuts Sen. Obama’s message, and doesn’t get him a whole lot.”

    I’ve thought much the same myself. I’ve noticed, though, that many of the bigwigs in the party seem to think it’s a splendid idea, and since Obama is relying on many of those same people to try to gently push Hillary out of the race, she has the leverage to force her nomination on him IF she bows out in the next couple of weeks. In that case, the “benefit” she confers is a negative — she doesn’t force him to spend the next two months fighting to consolidate his support within the party and nail down the nomination and can focus on the general. If, however, she keeps up her campaign until it is really, really, really over, she offers nothing to Obama and he’d be a fool to nominate her.

    Sean P (e57269) — 5/8/2008 @ 8:27 am

  20. I could see Obama choosing a retired general like Clarke or Zinni. Both are anti-Bush and anti-Iraq War. That would validate his announced decision to leave and give him cover when he is accused of quitting. He can say they advised him. A older, more experienced politician could be another choice. Maybe a governor.

    Mike K (86bddb) — 5/8/2008 @ 8:39 am

  21. For a while I began to think it would be a good idea for Obama to pick Hillary for VP. (1), it helps him win over her base, (2), the two of them will be representing a historic team of first black man and first woman all in one package. With that kind of coalition the dems will be unbeatable in the fall. With Obama pulling the African Americans, the educated and the independents and Hillary pulling the women and the older voters and most whites, and the middle class, it will be hard for the reps to withstand the movement. Its a winning combination. So I thought until Hillary blew it with that recent comment about how “white americans are increasingly turning against Barack Obama…” How desperate can she get?! Now she pulls the race card. anything but throwing in the towel. Not even minding if that could hurt her party. It gives me a sense that this woman has a sense of entitlement about this election. She feels this presidency is something owed her. That she deserves to be president. We shall see how that comment helps her next week and beyond.

    love2008 (d2a57f) — 5/8/2008 @ 12:23 pm

  22. can t the Clintons see that people have had enough of them. I wouldn’t vote for any ticket that had a Clinton on it.

    Jim (5b18cc) — 5/8/2008 @ 10:19 pm

  23. What a hoot! George Snuffleupagus. LOL!

    Harrell Sellers (aa4f30) — 5/9/2008 @ 8:08 am

  24. “#17 Indeed, it would surely provide a balanced ticket of two corrupt big city machines- Philly and Chi-town. Fast Eddie Rendell could provide oodles of dead voters for Obamalamadingdong. Any close election would get a great boost from more illegal dem ballots.”

    – madmax333

    Don’t worry, it all evens out: for every vote the Democrats fabricate, the Republicans purge a legitimate Democratic vote from the voter rolls.

    Parity.

    I think our strategy’s slightly superior, though: “dead men tell no tales”, after all.

    Leviticus (ed6d31) — 5/9/2008 @ 9:45 am

  25. Leviticus,

    You are pathetic. YOU take one incident, mischaracterize it to cover the massive number of Democrat stuffed ballot boxes, fraudulent votes, votes of the dead, registration fraud, as equivalent. I really wish the GOP would steal every election and do to you what you, in your delusions, imagine they do to you. Maybe you’d learn a lesson.

    PCD (5c49b0) — 5/9/2008 @ 9:52 am

  26. PCD: I doubt anyone could learn anything from having their delusions replaced by a reality identical to their delusions. ISTM they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. 🙂

    aphrael (db0b5a) — 5/9/2008 @ 10:07 am

  27. “I really wish the GOP would… do to you what you, in your delusions, imagine they do to you”

    – PCD

    Oooo, stop it! You’re getting me all hot under the collar with that kind of talk…

    Seriously, though: grow the hell up. Are you so naive as to think that the GOP doesn’t do everything the Democrats do when it comes to electoral shenanigans? It’s a broken system, with a lot of broken rules. Change the system, or suck it up, but don’t cry about it and then call me “pathetic”.

    Leviticus (ed6d31) — 5/9/2008 @ 11:07 am

  28. HELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! NO MORE DIRTY POLITICS. GEORGE MCCAIN BUSH WILL DO ENOUGH OF THAT. NO MORE CLINTONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    DIRTY RUSH LIMBAUGH HAS ALREADY GIVEN HILLARY 800,000 REPUBLICAN VOTES, WHO HAD NO PLANS OF VOTING FOR HILLARY. QUOTE BY RUSH “I know that it will make you VOMIT to vote for HILLARY. BUT DO IT. Don’t worry BILL and HILLARY’S FUNERAL MUSIC WILL PLAY. BUT JUST NOT YET. I’M HAVING TOO MUCH FUN WITH THIS. I’M ENJOYING SCREWING UP THE DEMOCRATS.

    GOD WILL DEAL WITH RUSH, HANNITY and GLEN BECK. Believe it or not BILL O’REILLY said on his radio show on MARCH 4TH that he didn’t think the LIMBAUGH CHAOS WAS A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU MR. OREILLY.

    BILL CLINTON met with RUSH LIMBAUGH on MARCH 4TH.

    peace (e988f6) — 6/3/2008 @ 4:51 pm

  29. HELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! NO MORE DIRTY POLITICS. GEORGE MCCAIN BUSH WILL DO ENOUGH OF THAT. NO MORE CLINTONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    peace (e988f6) — 6/3/2008 @ 4:54 pm

  30. HO VICE PRESIDENCY FOR HILLARY. REMEMBER THE RFK ASSASINATION COMMENT.

    peace (e988f6) — 6/3/2008 @ 5:02 pm

  31. HILLARY FOR VP NO. REMEMBER THE RFK ASSASINATION COMMENT. Sorry about the misspelled no on comment #30.

    peace (e988f6) — 6/3/2008 @ 5:06 pm

  32. no.28 RUSH LIMBAUGH CHAOS REPUBLICANS HAD NO INTENTION OF VOTING FOR HILLARY IN NOVEMBER IF SHE HAD WON THE NOMINATION

    peace (e988f6) — 6/3/2008 @ 5:31 pm


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