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4/25/2008

Liberals Who Want US to Go to War

Filed under: Environment — DRJ @ 6:50 pm



[Guest post by DRJ]

Newsweek’s Evan Thomas doesn’t seem to be a big supporter of the War in Iraq – he’s characterized it as a war to teach the Arabs a lesson after 9/11 – but there is one war he does support.

The War on Global Warming:

“The only way to get from here to there on slashing greenhouse emissions is by massively enforcing limits on consumption, which means heavy regulation, or much higher taxes. Or by developing breakthrough technologies, like a way to cheaply recapture carbon emissions or safer nuclear technology. (The technology has to be so cheap that China and India will buy it.) Higher oil prices will stimulate investment in alternative fuel sources, but every halfway believable estimate leaves us still heavily dependent on fossil fuels.

It would be nice to hope that the scientists will solve our problems, and I pray for them. But the politicians will have to get involved and put the thumb of government on the scale-and then lean hard. That means calling for sacrifice-serious wartime sacrifice.”

Thomas realizes it will be hard to convince average people to fight this war since only the politicians and the elites seem to understand how important it is. There is, he says, an “enormous class divide” on global warming that elites and politicians understand but everyone else can’t understand or “can’t be bothered” with. As he puts it, when it comes to everyday Americans, “Slow food to most people means that the waitress at the local IHOP is falling behind.”

I’m a little slow but I think Evan Thomas just called me an IHOP hick.

I am and I’m proud of it. He should try it sometime.

— DRJ

36 Responses to “Liberals Who Want US to Go to War”

  1. DRJ
    Can someoned with a long sting of letters after his name also be an IHOP hick. IF so count me in.

    Do yoy think I can get Evan to match SAT scores at $100 a point; winner take all? If so send me the smart guy’s email – you have mine, and I am willing to gamgble on the result.

    Rod Stanton (4ee835)

  2. I’m with you, even though I prefer Denny’s to IHOP.

    stevesturm (8caabf)

  3. These same clowns want to flood the US with millions of poverty cases while eliminating the sort of jobs that those poverty cases would be qualified for.

    j curtis (c84b9e)

  4. The reason the elites “get it” is because they won’t be “affected by it”.

    Apogee (366e8b)

  5. Hey I want a little bit of that $100.00 a point action. Or how about a high school physics exam at ten grand? Winner takes all, no extra credit, no points for “trying”

    Amused Observer (947c65)

  6. I have never been to an IHOP or a Denny’s. I go to Connie’s, on the corner of Harlem and Burlington. She serves “breakfast at any time”. Her steak and eggs include a 12 oz. Saratoga steak. It’s within walking distance of my house. So it means that I am saving the environment by not driving.

    As opposed to Al Gore and his three hundred gallon per hour Gulfstar. Yeah, “the politicians and the elites seem to understand how important it is”. But they do not want to change their lifestyles. They want the “hoi polloi” to change theirs.

    nk (284b49)

  7. It’s about morally condemning other people and bossing them around. Any excuse will do, and when this one runs its course another will be created.

    ras (fc54bb)

  8. Interesting (and revealing) juxtaposition:

    I.e., If there’s a war against radical Islam, the liberal press is forever concerned about giving government too much power because it will misuse that power. Our liberties are threatened in doing so and the press must be the watchdog on state powers.

    However, if there’s a war against global warming, apparently for the press any concern about government abuse of power or threats to our liberties are of no concern. Just let the state do what must be done.

    Funny how that works out.

    SteveMG (0ac3b7)

  9. Evan Thomas comes from a long line of liberal socialists, so it’s no wonder he thinks the way he does. Evan Thomas

    Patricia (f56a97)

  10. Meanwhile, the warming clock ticks. The tilt will come and we’ll all be up a dry creek or drowning in an overflowing one.

    It’s about risk management. When does the global warming discussion end and we start doing something?

    Or, maybe we just resign ourselves to the knowledge that we know how the world ends, and move on to our pancakes and sausage.

    Miss Havisham (0dad7b)

  11. It is vital that the President appoint a “Global Warming Czar” to co-ordinate (command) all areas of the economy, and society, to thwart anthropomorphic climate change.
    I nominate Rush Limbaugh!

    Another Drew (8018ee)

  12. Meanwhile, the warming clock ticks

    And it will keep ticking until the global cooling clock takes its turn once again. Where were you in the mid 70′ Miss H? Meanwhile, it’s the politicians and elites that have been snubbing wind farms, nuclear plant permitting…build the list and they will come…to shelve it in the name of the cause de jour. Yet yell the loudest when shortages hit. All those poor people! The government has do something! Raise taxes!

    allan (8753a7)

  13. Take that you evil carbon,

    Rat atat tat tat Rat atat tat.

    tyree (b95461)

  14. Adapt or perish!

    daleyrocks (906622)

  15. Also, Mr. Thomas has probably never been to an IHOP. I’ve never yet been to one where the food is not served quick. (Too bad it’s Passover. I’d go for a pile of buttermilk pancakes with a load of syrup on them right now.)

    kishnevi (03a14b)

  16. Our current ethanol policy definately calls for serious wartime sacrifice, at least for poor third-world people who can’t cope with increased food prices.

    I’m not sure it will actually do anything to lower world temperature, but that is secondary to the amount of sacrifice required.

    ROA (14f8af)

  17. Miss Havisham,

    As long as “we” doesn’t include me, “we” are welcome to start doing something whenever you wish. I see no indication AGW is real, and I refuse to be bankrupted by pagans seeking to appease Mother Gaia.

    Eric (09e4ab)

  18. Eric – Good points. World temperatures have not risen over the past ten years in spite of the efforts of Gore’s cronies to cook the data, which have been repeatedly exposed. Temperatures actually recorded their biggest one year drop in 100 years last year, dropping 0.7 degrees centigrade, although the AGW alarmists now, as opposed to when it supported their cause, caution everybody not to focus on data from individual years.

    Just follow the money and you’ll see who’s gravy train depends on perpetuating the AGW fraud.

    daleyrocks (906622)

  19. #12, allan, you nailed it!

    Dana (8118ae)

  20. Hey I’m late to the party, but I want in on the sweet sweet SAT action. I’ll also double or nothing on GRE’s at $100 a point. The winner also gets all the IHOP samplers I, he wants.

    Dr T (340565)

  21. Our current ethanol policy definately calls for serious wartime sacrifice, at least for poor third-world people who can’t cope with increased food prices.

    Not to worry. We’ll just give them some anti-mosquito netting after a couple million of them die. Lindsay Lohan has already signed on as spokesman.

    Patricia (f56a97)

  22. ROA,

    I’ve followed up on your point in this post. Thanks for the idea.

    DRJ (a431ca)

  23. LOL @ IHOP hick. actually, i prefer waffle house because their hash browns are better.

    james conrad (7cd809)

  24. the warming clock ticks.

    Well that clock has been ticking backwards for well over seven years since earth’s temperature is cooling.

    Greenies: whether they are envious humans or outerspace aliens one thing is certain, Greeinies are irrational.

    I would just ask the Greenies to get over themselves, they are not Gods and they cannot control the weather: please stop the insanity and the ego vanity.

    syn (1017f1)

  25. I can’t compete in the ‘SAT bet’, only 580 in Math and 630 in English (in 1980), at least it doesn’t sound like it.

    But I am rational and able to think. And no thinking person would make a major purchase (such as a house or a car) if it was marketed the way AGW has been. And no wonder Gore has upped the ante with a $300 million ad campaign; he can read a graph as well as the rest of us and he can see that temperatures are going down.

    Watch his weight: he doesn’t do well under pressure and in about 18 months he is going to be considered an utter fool (with a ballooning weight problem) and the hypocritical press will start to turn on him.

    Jack (d9cbc5)

  26. I have been saving aluminum cans since the 70’s. I rode a bike to work, at least part time, in three different decades. I draw off the the first two quarts of cold water from the hot tap into a pitcher and use it to rinse the sink and flush the water saving toilet. I take the bus more than most and bought a 4 cylinder minivan to drive my family around.
    The government allowed 25 million illegal immigrants to move into my country.
    Now we have a “water crisis” and an “energy crisis” and a “food crisis”.
    And it’s all my fault.
    The greens lost all of their credibility when they supported illegal immigration.

    tyree (b95461)

  27. I can’t get near my local IHOP, they keep having Rachel Corrie fundraisers that fill the place up.

    daleyrocks (906622)

  28. I’ve often thought of him as possessing an IQ of 114.On a good day.Running downhill.With the wind at his back.sort of like John Kerry

    corwin (8fd3dc)

  29. #15 kishnevi:

    (Too bad it’s Passover. I’d go for a pile of buttermilk pancakes with a load of syrup on them right now.)

    Arrgh. Now you’ve got me thinking about ’em.

    I could get past the not kosher for Passover, but no IHOP close enough.

    Hmm. Matzoh with butter & cane syrup in the microwave. BRB.

    EW1(SG) (84e813)

  30. corwin @ 28…

    That’s with an “elected-official” 100-pt bonus, right?

    Another Drew (8018ee)

  31. I’m a little slow but I think Evan Thomas just called me an IHOP hick.

    I think you’re sounding a little bitter there DRJ…

    driver (894d32)

  32. I’m a little slow but I think Evan Thomas just called me an IHOP hick.

    I am and I’m proud of it. He should try it sometime.

    Ugh. There’s no way we’re going to solve any of these problems if you don’t have the curiosity to even consider trying to understand it. The bottom line is that we’ve spent the first tenth of this century dragging our feet on what is self-evidently the biggest problem we will face this century, if not the biggest problem the human race has ever faced, and to say that you’re ‘proud’ of that fact is… well, ugh.

    Levi (76ef55)

  33. The bottom line is that we’ve spent the first tenth of this century dragging our feet on what is self-evidently the biggest problem we will face this century, if not the biggest problem the human race has ever faced…

    First, turn off your computer. You’re wasting energy and thereby creating needless emissions. Then, consider the ways in which you personally emit CO2 into the atmosphere. Exhaling, for instance.

    Lead by example, Levi.

    Pablo (99243e)

  34. Hey, Evan Shortstack Thomas. No IHOP digs. Their CEO started out as a waitress, serving up coffee & pancakes at a San Diego IHOP. She just completed the purchase of Applebee’s. Julia Stewart: CEO/ pancake flipper

    Vermont Neighbor (747787)

  35. I resent Thomas’ smear of IHOP waitresses. My daughter is one around her schooling.

    PCD (5c49b0)

  36. Liberals and eco-freaks who tell us we should give up our SUVs and GOOD HOMES from the comfort of their luxerious homes and 4 mpg limos or while flying around in their private jets HYPOTCRITS ALL

    krazy kagu (524740)


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