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	<title>Comments on: Background on the &#8220;Who Killed Tupac Shakur?&#8221; Story &#8212; From YouTube</title>
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		<title>By: eric royce</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/04/12/background-on-the-who-killed-tupac-shakur-story-from-youtube/#comment-403541</link>
		<dc:creator>eric royce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guto o backround</description>
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		<title>By: CallMeTym</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/04/12/background-on-the-who-killed-tupac-shakur-story-from-youtube/#comment-395796</link>
		<dc:creator>CallMeTym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These Videos are only what the media know, and understand which is very little. The media/Police are stupid, and do not understand. It was a very well played hand, and it was portrayed perfectly. Unless you are a Tupac fan, and understand streets, murder, and Tupac... You wouldnt have seen it coming, nor would you have been expected to fugure it out. I know what has happened, and I believe in what I have researched, and looked up. You people need to not dig so deep... These videos are good... For what the media was lead to believe. But That was the whole trick. There was no need to bring in the police, FBI, Special Researchers. And as for that retard guy that is blaming the gangs the whole time... He probably the dumbest one. LOL He has no idea what he is talking about. Look at him... Just look at him. Do u really think he knows ANYTHING about the streets? NO! Its all in Tupac. Tupac is the key. ;) LOL "All eyes on me" -Tupac Shakur</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These Videos are only what the media know, and understand which is very little. The media/Police are stupid, and do not understand. It was a very well played hand, and it was portrayed perfectly. Unless you are a Tupac fan, and understand streets, murder, and Tupac&#8230; You wouldnt have seen it coming, nor would you have been expected to fugure it out. I know what has happened, and I believe in what I have researched, and looked up. You people need to not dig so deep&#8230; These videos are good&#8230; For what the media was lead to believe. But That was the whole trick. There was no need to bring in the police, FBI, Special Researchers. And as for that retard guy that is blaming the gangs the whole time&#8230; He probably the dumbest one. LOL He has no idea what he is talking about. Look at him&#8230; Just look at him. Do u really think he knows ANYTHING about the streets? NO! Its all in Tupac. Tupac is the key. <img src='http://patterico.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> LOL &#8220;All eyes on me&#8221; -Tupac Shakur</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Rockford</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/04/12/background-on-the-who-killed-tupac-shakur-story-from-youtube/#comment-333316</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Rockford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tupac/Biggie and their murders are the natural outcome of "Big Man" and hyper-masculine identity culture, women choosing that kind of man, the community (Blacks) idolizing that kind of man, and the media elite pushing that kind of man as "authentically Black" as the poster above shows.

Rap Music and Black culture glorifies physical dominance, violence for it's own sake, criminality, and competition over women (which informed the Biggie-Tupac feud). Wow what a surprise it ends in death.

As an exercise I'll compare the creativity and astonishing cultural output of the Black Community under Jim Crow, from Scott Joplin to the Harlem Renaissance to Duke Ellington to Lady Day to Miles Davis to Staxx and Motown and Jackie Wilson, Marvin Gaye ... to today's artists like Snoop Dogg.

Cultural achievement can only take place in an atmosphere devoid of Big Man hyper macho competition for who can collect the most guns, followers, and women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tupac/Biggie and their murders are the natural outcome of &#8220;Big Man&#8221; and hyper-masculine identity culture, women choosing that kind of man, the community (Blacks) idolizing that kind of man, and the media elite pushing that kind of man as &#8220;authentically Black&#8221; as the poster above shows.</p>
<p>Rap Music and Black culture glorifies physical dominance, violence for it&#8217;s own sake, criminality, and competition over women (which informed the Biggie-Tupac feud). Wow what a surprise it ends in death.</p>
<p>As an exercise I&#8217;ll compare the creativity and astonishing cultural output of the Black Community under Jim Crow, from Scott Joplin to the Harlem Renaissance to Duke Ellington to Lady Day to Miles Davis to Staxx and Motown and Jackie Wilson, Marvin Gaye &#8230; to today&#8217;s artists like Snoop Dogg.</p>
<p>Cultural achievement can only take place in an atmosphere devoid of Big Man hyper macho competition for who can collect the most guns, followers, and women.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Coot</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/04/12/background-on-the-who-killed-tupac-shakur-story-from-youtube/#comment-333235</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Coot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was painful and saddening to watch those videos. Thank goodness my family, friends and neighbors don't live on that planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was painful and saddening to watch those videos. Thank goodness my family, friends and neighbors don&#8217;t live on that planet.</p>
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		<title>By: some guy</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/04/12/background-on-the-who-killed-tupac-shakur-story-from-youtube/#comment-333233</link>
		<dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nora Victor Nora.  Who cares.

When you live the gangster-life, don't be surprised at the expected outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nora Victor Nora.  Who cares.</p>
<p>When you live the gangster-life, don&#8217;t be surprised at the expected outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Veit</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/04/12/background-on-the-who-killed-tupac-shakur-story-from-youtube/#comment-333206</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Veit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A person writing in a satiric vein might ask if you  realize that reporter Phillips has just won a Pulitzer?  Is the Pulitzer committee biased?  Does the Pulitzer only go to Main Stream Media?  I think not.  Stop ranting against one of the great reporters in America and one of the two great papers in America. Call me crazy but personally, I believe the Los Angeles Times, I believe the Koran, I believe the cartoons on TV. One has to have faith in something besides the almighty dollar (whoopsie, Almighty Euro).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A person writing in a satiric vein might ask if you  realize that reporter Phillips has just won a Pulitzer?  Is the Pulitzer committee biased?  Does the Pulitzer only go to Main Stream Media?  I think not.  Stop ranting against one of the great reporters in America and one of the two great papers in America. Call me crazy but personally, I believe the Los Angeles Times, I believe the Koran, I believe the cartoons on TV. One has to have faith in something besides the almighty dollar (whoopsie, Almighty Euro).</p>
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		<title>By: rainman</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/04/12/background-on-the-who-killed-tupac-shakur-story-from-youtube/#comment-333204</link>
		<dc:creator>rainman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it especially ironic that in this world of Hip Hop, arguably the apex of "black authenticity", a world in which cooperation with authorities (The Man) is tantemount to racial betrayel, there is a collective dismay expressed due to the fact that the same authorities have not solved these murders. In a homocide case where witness testimony is probably the only evidence which would lead to a conviction, the fact that all involved are part of a culture that values ghetto "omerta" over any sense of real justice (not street justice) makes any chance of solving the case impossible. But no matter, this inevitable lack of justice will provide more opportunity to reinforce the pathological belief so prominant in "authentic" black culture that the whole thing is being orchestrated by The Man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it especially ironic that in this world of Hip Hop, arguably the apex of &#8220;black authenticity&#8221;, a world in which cooperation with authorities (The Man) is tantemount to racial betrayel, there is a collective dismay expressed due to the fact that the same authorities have not solved these murders. In a homocide case where witness testimony is probably the only evidence which would lead to a conviction, the fact that all involved are part of a culture that values ghetto &#8220;omerta&#8221; over any sense of real justice (not street justice) makes any chance of solving the case impossible. But no matter, this inevitable lack of justice will provide more opportunity to reinforce the pathological belief so prominant in &#8220;authentic&#8221; black culture that the whole thing is being orchestrated by The Man.</p>
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