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Maybe he said it with the spanish pronunciation:

“Hay-soos glasses”

Maybe he was talking about Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda.

There is a WORLD of difference between “When you put on your Jesus glasses, you can’t see the truth” and any kind of responsible historical discussion.

“The lawsuit, which seeks unspecified damages and attorney fees, says that Corbett typically spent “a large portion of class time propagating his personal views to a captive audience.” He railed against Christianity and traditional Christian viewpoints on topics such as birth control, teenage sex, homosexuality and erectile dysfunction, according to the lawsuit.”

It’s been a long time since I studied high school European History but how, exactly, is erectile dysfunction part of that course curriculum?

The actual complaint is for: “fostering hostility toward Christians and promoted ‘irreligion over religion’” – and irreligious is, I believe, a much more accurate description of the teachers views and his recorded statements released to date. Of particular note, is that this teacher is the “faculty adviser to the Free Thinking Atheist and Agnostic Kinship student club”.

But equally of note, I think, is that this all took place within an AP European History class. I would imagine it would be near impossible to refrain from discussing some of the dangers of organized religion (specifically christian and more specifically Catholic) in the context of a course covering the dark and middle ages etc. Clearly it appears the teacher may have gone too far in letting his own personal views bleed into his teaching; and I can understand why the judge allowed the suit to proceed. But these aren’t mere children he’s teaching. These are near adults preparing to enter the adult academic system – they should be equally prepared to have their world view challenged somewhat. The case is going to hinge on the full context of those (as yet unreleased) tapes, and how much room the teacher provides for challenge and full discussion.

Personally I think Chad’s parents would have served him better by having a quiet word with the teacher and/or principal noting what they believed was excessive, and sending Chad back to class armed with good arguements rather than a bevy of lawyers.

Conservatives don’t want women to avoid pregnancies. That’s interfering with God’s work. You have to stay pregnant and barefoot and in the kitchen and have babies until your body collapses. All over the world, doesn’t matter where you go, the conservatives want control over women’s reproductive capacity. Everywhere in the world. From conservative Christians in this country, to ..um…Muslim Fundamentalists in Afghanistan. It’s the same. It’s stunning how vitally interested they are in controlling women.

What part of the country has the highest murder rate? The South. What part of the country has the highest rape rate? The South. What part of the country has the highest church attendance? The South.

The student in question is looking to attend either USC or UCLA and needs to take AP European History according to his counselor, in order to secure placement at those top schools.

Another student has been pulled from the class by his parents. And Corbett was sued previously by a biology teacher for a “class based animus against practicing Christians” in 1993.

I think the California student disliked this teacher (or perhaps was not getting the grade he wanted in that class) and decided he was going to get back at the teacher. I think he recorded lectures at various times (perhaps illegally, as I think California law requires both parties to consent) and then convinced his parents that his teacher was out to get him because he was Christian. I think the parents then filed a complaint against the School Board and then, when they weren’t satisfied, contacted their pastor (in Orange County and possibly at a mega-church with conservative connections) who put them in touch with the law organization that’s handling the case. The other students by and large support this professor and so the kid’s now looked on as even more of a dweeb than he otherwise was.

The lawsuit was actually filed three months ago. Why all the fuss now if not trying to get some funding for this law organization.

If he is not talking about Christians, which Jesus does he have in mind? Jesus Alou?

Obscures the truth…what truth?

Jim, you are going all Clintonian on us here, bending yourself into a pretzel to not see the obvious.

Jesus glasses…obscure…the truth….church attendance…the South…rapes and murders…the South.

Please connect the dots.

I also don’t see anything in the quote that says or implies that “Christians kill or rape more”. I think you’re jumping from “there are more people who attend relgious service regularly” in areas where there seems to be greater than average (taken across the US as a whole) reported violent crime/rape to “that means Christians must kill more than other religions anywhere in the world”.

What I’m saying is this: I think it’s easily proven that church attendance in the rural Midwest and South is higher than in the West or Northwest. Look at, for instance, the chart at http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2007/11/religiosity_and.html. I also think the expedia article I cited shows some higher than average correlation between the Southern states (in general and as defined) and rape and violent crime.

So perhaps the connection could be one of these: (i) lower income people tend to attend church more regularly than higher income people (this apparently is the case in the US) and much of the South has a lower per capita income than the rest of the US and there is more violent crime in lower income areas; or (ii) some people in the South who attend church don’t act in accordance with their professed belief.

But I don’t see anything in the statements which leads me to think that the professor implied that Christians commit violent crimes more than Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, athetists, etc.

Mr. Alquist? You still remember me after thirty-five years?