… social programs that Democrats propose, but never practice it themselves, and they just count on their base to ignore their hypocrisy.

We don’t often see Democrats being quite so honest in their comments about Democrat social programs on posts on blogs …

Really…I thought your vote was his to lose. He isn’t running now…so, I only assume you mean then…, but it’s hard to know because your opinions have very little consistent logic, just consistent rage.

We’re talking about this because it’s relevant, as long as we’re discussing people with flawed critical-thinking skills that believe everything they see, hear, or are told.

Well, yes…an echo chamber with levers would be a perfect leftist polling booth.

“Were in the midsts”

Is that one of those rampant “s” things you have been going on about?

of the least fiscally conservative administration in the history of the country,

Um….no. Adjusted for inflation, and with an eye toward not withering down the military to its weakest point…Dhimmy Carter oversaw double digit inflation and interest rates, nearly double digit unemployment and the worst economy to live in…in my lifetime. You weren’t alive yet, so your frame of reference goes back to about…yesterday.

and Republicans that warned against massive increases in federal spending as reasons to vote against Gore and Kerry have been noticeably silent about all the massive increases that George Bush has allowed.

Silent? Really? You must have been sleeping during the primaries and beyond.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/09/can_bush_hold_the_line_on_spen.html

The politics of it is a bit complex for your sloganeering, but…the Republicans get beat up for “denying the children” or “wanting to throw away the elderly”…by leftists and their propaganda wing, the MegaStasisMedia. The Republicans kept sending back smaller versions of the leftist grab bag…or risk being lied about and losing office.

And now we ‘re enduring the same bullshit with Obama and Clinton, and Republicans are still claiming to own the issue, even with their record-setting and horrible record on it over the past few years.

So, is it your opinion that the Democrats would be fiscally more conservative than McCain? If not, what’s your point? Obama certainly has shown no interest in cutting back on anything except the military. He’s Jimmy Carter all over again…even utilizing Carter advisors. I’ve lived through that bunny-fearing, anti-Semite, coward’s rein once…no thanks on the redux.

Republicans use the idea of fiscal responsibility to galvanize people against social programs that Democrats propose, but never practice it themselves, and they just count on their base to ignore their hypocrisy. Which you all do, quite well.

You mean the way you all bathe in hypocrisy about race relations and sexual harassment? You mean the way you all ignored Teddy Kennedy’s manslaughter and Bill Clinton’s serial groping of women employees, trading sex, (then silence) for promotions and favors? For a Republican, that would have been front page news for 40 years, sexual harassment 101. But with a leftist…it’s all just sex, right?

You mean the way you all ignored Sandy Berger stealing documents and swept the Vince Foster, Whitewater and selling secrets to the Chinese episodes…you mean that kind of hypocrisy?

We’ve also allowed the far-right media to basically define political discourse,

What color is the sky in your world?

and the media ends up wasting most of it’s time talking about 12 year old questionnaires and who’s pastor said what in the total absence of any real discussion about any issues that matter.

Oh, I forgot. The leftists don’t like it when issues of racism and social issues are discussed about THEM. That is a street that is only paved in one direction.

For a guy with a resume’ as thin as Sen. Obama…what he thinks, who he takes advice from, what birds of a feather he flocks with…are all prima facie evidence of how he is likely to lead.

The ‘news-reporting’ media has transformed into a ’speculative-opining’ media. 90% of it is dedicated to what amounts to junior high gossip.

No, 95% of your media is dedicated to leftist propaganda and socialist talking points.

Can’t help to roll my eyes whenever somebody starts going on about honor and integrity, especially in the context of an ideological debate between American liberals and conservatives. Conservatives just don’t have any.

When your eyes roll back, do you start swallowing your tongue? That may be the source of all that frothing at the mouth you suffer.

Leftists like Ted Rall cheered when Pat Tillman died…did you? Is that honor to you? Are you a maoist, socialist or communist? Which is your leftism of choice? Or are you an anarchist? It’s easier to know where your “honor and integrity” stem from…once you declare your particular brand of leftism.

Because, like most leftists…you don’t seem to stand FOR anything…you simply stand against. It’s easier that way…you don’t have to actually do anything…you can sit on the sidelines and mewl about those that are.

Anyway, we don’t have to sell out those principles (a doctrine of unprovoked preventative war is not among those principles, by the way) to be liked in the world, and certainly you can see the diplomatic and strategic benefits to being viewed in a positive light?

Unprovoked war…you mean like the ones waged repeatedly against Israel? And where is Israel on that ranking of “being liked”? Sometimes, not being liked…has to do with being unfairly picked on and repeatedly slandered in the leftist media.

And, for a guy who is so interested in being liked, who doesn’t like unprovoked fights, and wants the country to act accordingly…you must not have any mirrors in your glass house.

I’m confused, aren’t we supposed to be an example? The city on the hill? Now, when the tide is turning against us, all of a sudden it’s ‘fuck ‘em.’ What would Reagan say to that attitude?

He would say:

“But if history teaches anything, it teaches that simpleminded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, the squandering of our freedom.

So, I urge you to speak out against those who would place the United States in a position of military and moral inferiority.”

That is likely due to the fact that you are arguing with the caricatures and strawmen that you have erected in your head.

Well, why do you keep electing these caricatures to public office? Why do these caricatures dominate every channel of conservative media?

Then why are you so worried about him?

Because you have to start realizing certain truths about the man and what he’s done to this country before we can safely move past this sad chapter in our history without fear of repeating these same mistakes. That’s where I part ways with Obama, he wants to unite, and bring together, forgive and forget, yuck. All this bullshit will come right back around if we just let Republicans get away with this presidency without being held to account for it.

I felt that same way then, but then the Left went and nominated someone even more unpalatable. Looks like they are doing it again. Sad.

Can you name one person on the left that is palatable to conservatives? Lieberman ain’t left, before you go there.

because it seems very inconsistent from my point of view.

That is likely due to the fact that you are arguing with the caricatures and strawmen that you have erected in your head.

It’s really easy to say you’re not going to vote for someone again when you can’t

Then why are you so worried about him?

I felt that same way then, but then the Left went and nominated someone even more unpalatable. Looks like they are doing it again. Sad.

Why the faux concern over what Republicans care about?

I’m just trying to understand what you care about at all, because it seems very inconsistent from my point of view.

I am so fucking mad at Bush for his spending habits, and those of Congressm, that I will put my hand on a Bible and swear, swear I tell you, not to vote for President Bush in the next election.

It’s really easy to say you’re not going to vote for someone again when you can’t. If a President could serve three terms or if there were no term limits, you’d all have your Bush/Cheney ‘08 bumper stickers on your cars and, you know it.

What I want to know is where was that attitude in 2004, when it would have meant something, and I could have taken it seriously?

I am so fucking mad at Bush for his spending habits, and those of Congressm, that I will put my hand on a Bible and swear, swear I tell you, not to vote for President Bush in the next election.

I mean don’t Republicans want better Republican candidates? Isn’t fiscal restraint still important to the party? Why do you refuse to hold Bush accountable by pointing towards meaningless hypotheticals?

Levi – A statement like you just made above is a perfect example of why your assumption that everyone on this site who disagrees with you is a blind Bush follower is wrong. For you to assume voting for manbearpig or Senator Aristoslacker (aka Flipper) were realistic considerations for anyone holding a modicum of conservative views, social, economic, foreign policy, defense or otherwise is just ludicrous. You just don’t have the intellectual horsepower to think your arguments through and see how silly they make you look.