<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: BREAKING: L.A. Times Admits Documents in Tupac/Sean Combs Story Were Fabricated</title>
	<atom:link href="http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/</link>
	<description>Harangues that just make sense</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:46:45 -0800</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: L.Hackett</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/comment-page-1/#comment-358110</link>
		<dc:creator>L.Hackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 02:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/#comment-358110</guid>
		<description>Chuck Phillips also worked on the Rampart LAPD scandal. The cops talked to him and gave him tips, invited him to cop meetings whiIe I, who freelanced for TV stations and Vibe Magazine, was tracking down and reading all the case files. Kevin Gaines, Michael Harris, Rampart! I feel like I&#039;ve been working on one giant story or 12 years, never ending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck Phillips also worked on the Rampart LAPD scandal. The cops talked to him and gave him tips, invited him to cop meetings whiIe I, who freelanced for TV stations and Vibe Magazine, was tracking down and reading all the case files. Kevin Gaines, Michael Harris, Rampart! I feel like I&#8217;ve been working on one giant story or 12 years, never ending.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: biff</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/comment-page-1/#comment-329876</link>
		<dc:creator>biff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/#comment-329876</guid>
		<description>i get it that you work in the da&#039;s office but do you actually live in the city of los angeles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i get it that you work in the da&#8217;s office but do you actually live in the city of los angeles?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: biff</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/comment-page-1/#comment-329875</link>
		<dc:creator>biff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/#comment-329875</guid>
		<description>i get it that you work in the da&#039;s office but do you actually live in the ciyt of los angeles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i get it that you work in the da&#8217;s office but do you actually live in the ciyt of los angeles?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/comment-page-1/#comment-329770</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/#comment-329770</guid>
		<description>Slight off topic, I just read the January Los Angeles Magazine, which had an article about the LAT Homicide Blog.  The editor&#039;s note was very critical of the Slimes&#039; selective, Hollywood-oriented murder reporting.  Are fellow liberals turning on them too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slight off topic, I just read the January Los Angeles Magazine, which had an article about the LAT Homicide Blog.  The editor&#8217;s note was very critical of the Slimes&#8217; selective, Hollywood-oriented murder reporting.  Are fellow liberals turning on them too?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: SPQR</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/comment-page-1/#comment-329759</link>
		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/#comment-329759</guid>
		<description>That is the same quality of reporting as CBS and TNR - that is to say, the same low &quot;quality&quot;.

Time for Phillips and his editor to be fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the same quality of reporting as CBS and TNR &#8211; that is to say, the same low &#8220;quality&#8221;.</p>
<p>Time for Phillips and his editor to be fired.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jim Lakely</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/comment-page-1/#comment-329757</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Lakely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/#comment-329757</guid>
		<description>Oh. I forgot to mention this little tidbit from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/business/media/27hoax.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The New York Times&#039; coverage&lt;/a&gt; of this story. The West Coast Times would not let their homies talk to the East Coast Times (grudges die hard). But Philips did grant an interview last week to MTV News about his story before it blew up in his face. The Pulitzer winner said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;&lt;i&gt;I’m not going to write it just because someone says it,” he said. “I have to, in my mind, have double- or triple-sourcing on something and people who hadn’t spoken to each other and I can assure myself that they haven’t spoken to each other&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ummm, he certainly didn&#039;t do that &quot;double- or triple-sourcing&quot; when it came to the FBI documents. By the LA Times&#039; own account:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Philips said he sought to check the authenticity of the documents with the U.S. attorney&#039;s office in New York, which had handled the investigation of the attack on Shakur, and with a retired FBI agent, but did not directly ask the FBI about them. The U.S. attorney&#039;s office declined to comment, while the former FBI agent said the documents appeared legitimate, Philips said.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, Philips doesn&#039;t bother to call the FBI, gets no comment from the U.S. attorney&#039;s office, and a single retired FBI guy says the documents &quot;appeared legitimate.&quot; And that was enough to pin an entire story on? Wow. Just ... wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. I forgot to mention this little tidbit from <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/business/media/27hoax.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">The New York Times&#8217; coverage</a> of this story. The West Coast Times would not let their homies talk to the East Coast Times (grudges die hard). But Philips did grant an interview last week to MTV News about his story before it blew up in his face. The Pulitzer winner said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<i>I’m not going to write it just because someone says it,” he said. “I have to, in my mind, have double- or triple-sourcing on something and people who hadn’t spoken to each other and I can assure myself that they haven’t spoken to each other</i>.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ummm, he certainly didn&#8217;t do that &#8220;double- or triple-sourcing&#8221; when it came to the FBI documents. By the LA Times&#8217; own account:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Philips said he sought to check the authenticity of the documents with the U.S. attorney&#8217;s office in New York, which had handled the investigation of the attack on Shakur, and with a retired FBI agent, but did not directly ask the FBI about them. The U.S. attorney&#8217;s office declined to comment, while the former FBI agent said the documents appeared legitimate, Philips said.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>So, Philips doesn&#8217;t bother to call the FBI, gets no comment from the U.S. attorney&#8217;s office, and a single retired FBI guy says the documents &#8220;appeared legitimate.&#8221; And that was enough to pin an entire story on? Wow. Just &#8230; wow.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jim Lakely</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/comment-page-1/#comment-329756</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Lakely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/#comment-329756</guid>
		<description>The LA Times deserves credit for so quickly admitting that they were duped -- rather than dodging and going with the &quot;fake but accurate&quot; nonsense of CBS News. I&#039;m surprised they fessed up so quickly. So, good on them for that.

Yet that good will is largely destroyed by the refusal of Philips or the LA Times to reveal their sources -- both the source of the phony FBI reports and the &quot;corroborators&quot; in the poke.

I&#039;ve been a newspaper reporter for 16 years. I&#039;ve used the occassional anonymous source. Sometimes it&#039;s the only way a reporter can get the truth out to the public. But an anonymous source, in my book, forfeits his cover when he lies. It is amazing that the LA Times is still protecting these anonymous sources.

Perhaps Philips and the paper won&#039;t out these frauds because public exposure could put them in physical danger (though that didn&#039;t seem to stop Philips before). More likely, I think, is that Philips has fudged to his editors about exactly how many sources he had. My bet? Philips&#039; source is singular: The Phraudulent Phat Boy Jimmy Sabatino.

Let&#039;s also not let pass the extraordinary journalistic event that has transpired here. It is a very rare thing for a newspaper to retract a story. The Times went beyond that. It issued an apology -- &lt;i&gt;and on the front page&lt;/i&gt;. No doubt, that is an attempt to undermine the &quot;malicious intent&quot; threshhold for the enormous libel suit that Sean Combs&#039; lawyers promised in the story.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven. And I kept waiting for the line in the story that noted how Philips was put on &quot;administrative leave&quot; until the investigation is completed. Apparently, his Pulitzer is shielding him from the dire professional consequences he deserves. For now, at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LA Times deserves credit for so quickly admitting that they were duped &#8212; rather than dodging and going with the &#8220;fake but accurate&#8221; nonsense of CBS News. I&#8217;m surprised they fessed up so quickly. So, good on them for that.</p>
<p>Yet that good will is largely destroyed by the refusal of Philips or the LA Times to reveal their sources &#8212; both the source of the phony FBI reports and the &#8220;corroborators&#8221; in the poke.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a newspaper reporter for 16 years. I&#8217;ve used the occassional anonymous source. Sometimes it&#8217;s the only way a reporter can get the truth out to the public. But an anonymous source, in my book, forfeits his cover when he lies. It is amazing that the LA Times is still protecting these anonymous sources.</p>
<p>Perhaps Philips and the paper won&#8217;t out these frauds because public exposure could put them in physical danger (though that didn&#8217;t seem to stop Philips before). More likely, I think, is that Philips has fudged to his editors about exactly how many sources he had. My bet? Philips&#8217; source is singular: The Phraudulent Phat Boy Jimmy Sabatino.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s also not let pass the extraordinary journalistic event that has transpired here. It is a very rare thing for a newspaper to retract a story. The Times went beyond that. It issued an apology &#8212; <i>and on the front page</i>. No doubt, that is an attempt to undermine the &#8220;malicious intent&#8221; threshhold for the enormous libel suit that Sean Combs&#8217; lawyers promised in the story.</p>
<p>This whole thing stinks to high heaven. And I kept waiting for the line in the story that noted how Philips was put on &#8220;administrative leave&#8221; until the investigation is completed. Apparently, his Pulitzer is shielding him from the dire professional consequences he deserves. For now, at least.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: WLS</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/comment-page-1/#comment-329755</link>
		<dc:creator>WLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/#comment-329755</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m going to take a stab at the project as Patterico mentioned.  He and I have communicated about what he thinks is the issue, and I understand why he&#039;s limited in what he can say.  

It looked at it about 6 months ago, but let it drop it under the press of business.  Give me a couple hours and I&#039;ll go back through what I had before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to take a stab at the project as Patterico mentioned.  He and I have communicated about what he thinks is the issue, and I understand why he&#8217;s limited in what he can say.  </p>
<p>It looked at it about 6 months ago, but let it drop it under the press of business.  Give me a couple hours and I&#8217;ll go back through what I had before.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike K</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/comment-page-1/#comment-329754</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/#comment-329754</guid>
		<description>Clark, we all know this and wish we could do something. All I could was move away. My brother-in-law retired from Chicago PD as a patrolman in spite of a BS and MS in public administration because the sergeant&#039;s exam was dominated by affirmative action. To some extent it was his fault because he  finally refused to keep applying for the exam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark, we all know this and wish we could do something. All I could was move away. My brother-in-law retired from Chicago PD as a patrolman in spite of a BS and MS in public administration because the sergeant&#8217;s exam was dominated by affirmative action. To some extent it was his fault because he  finally refused to keep applying for the exam.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Neo</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/comment-page-1/#comment-329752</link>
		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patterico.com/2008/03/26/breaking-la-times-admits-documents-in-tupacsean-combs-story-were-fabricated/#comment-329752</guid>
		<description>OK.  Let&#039;s &lt;b&gt;give &#039;em a gold star&lt;/b&gt; for doing what TNR, CBS and Dan Rather were unable to do .. &lt;b&gt;admit their mistake&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  Let&#8217;s <b>give &#8216;em a gold star</b> for doing what TNR, CBS and Dan Rather were unable to do .. <b>admit their mistake</b>.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
