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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad when citizens exercising their vote for the highest elected office in this country choose to focus on the color of a candidate&#039;s skin or their gender as opposed to the candidate&#039;s qualifications for office or policies as cafo8 suggests above by supporting Obama because he is half black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad when citizens exercising their vote for the highest elected office in this country choose to focus on the color of a candidate&#8217;s skin or their gender as opposed to the candidate&#8217;s qualifications for office or policies as cafo8 suggests above by supporting Obama because he is half black.</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/20/the-clinton-wright-photo-and-the-truth-about-trinity-church-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-331417</link>
		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems some people are willing to go around like rabid dogs attacking and bombing any country that presents even the remotest threat to the US.


CM - Clinton bombed more countries than Bush.  Is he one of those people?  Who are these people of which you speak and what is your evidence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems some people are willing to go around like rabid dogs attacking and bombing any country that presents even the remotest threat to the US.</p>
<p>CM &#8211; Clinton bombed more countries than Bush.  Is he one of those people?  Who are these people of which you speak and what is your evidence?</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was your thumb, not a nail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was your thumb, not a nail.</p>
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		<title>By: CM Knudsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>CM Knudsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See what happens when you hit the nail on the head....it closes the coffin - and all the little bugs crawl away back into their holes.

Thanks, caf08...VOTE OBAMA!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See what happens when you hit the nail on the head&#8230;.it closes the coffin &#8211; and all the little bugs crawl away back into their holes.</p>
<p>Thanks, caf08&#8230;VOTE OBAMA!!!</p>
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		<title>By: caf08</title>
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		<dc:creator>caf08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos  CM Knudsen!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos  CM Knudsen!!!</p>
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		<title>By: caf08</title>
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		<dc:creator>caf08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frannie..you are more than correct in your analysis of what is going on here.  It is sad that black people will always know and acknowledge what has happened in this country.  As soon as &quot;White America&quot; is called out even when they have discriminated, continue to have very strong feelings and doubt about a &quot;Black Man&quot; leading this country, can not understand blacks and or the God we serve.  We want keep it moving but just the continued conversations and reports about Rev. Wright lets us know &quot;White America&quot; still are for the most part in denial about race relations.  I remember hearing &quot;I have a lot of black friends.&quot;  My best friend is black. So why???? What does it matter who are you trying to convince?  Just as now....Senator Obama is so close to winning the presidency they don&#039;t know what to do.  &quot;Watch out for tall buildings and bridges.....we are going to have and overflow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frannie..you are more than correct in your analysis of what is going on here.  It is sad that black people will always know and acknowledge what has happened in this country.  As soon as &#8220;White America&#8221; is called out even when they have discriminated, continue to have very strong feelings and doubt about a &#8220;Black Man&#8221; leading this country, can not understand blacks and or the God we serve.  We want keep it moving but just the continued conversations and reports about Rev. Wright lets us know &#8220;White America&#8221; still are for the most part in denial about race relations.  I remember hearing &#8220;I have a lot of black friends.&#8221;  My best friend is black. So why???? What does it matter who are you trying to convince?  Just as now&#8230;.Senator Obama is so close to winning the presidency they don&#8217;t know what to do.  &#8220;Watch out for tall buildings and bridges&#8230;..we are going to have and overflow.</p>
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		<title>By: CM Knudsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>CM Knudsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retire05:

Of course McCain doesn&#039;t long for war with him having to fight, and as President he wouldn&#039;t have to fight.  But his military experience and dogged determination to overcome his enemy (in Vietnam)  may have skewed his judgement on the &lt;i&gt;need to overcome militarily &lt;/i&gt; in Iraq...just a thought. It just seems that he doesn’t want a negotiated end...as the generals say must happen, but that he wants blood and a great military victory.  The thinking about Vietnam is that we weren’t allowed to win militarily there.  Maybe he doesn’t want a repeat....To me it seems obvious that McCain, like Bush, is determined at any cost to succeed militarily......something all the experts and generals say can’t happen.
His whole Vietnam experience no doubt influences how he looks at the present situation...rightly or wrongly.  
McCain is acting  as though the success of the Surge is proof that the war was justified.  There is a big disconnect there.  The Surge succeeding is not proof that the war was justified to begin with.  I have not heard McCain say the war was a mistake and that we shouldn&#039;t have gone there.  He is as stubborn as Bush.  I’ve always been taught that stubborn and stupid are synonymous. 
It seems some people are willing to go around like rabid dogs attacking and bombing  any country that presents even the remotest threat to the US. 
The American public who puts  up with this kind of policy (pre-emptive strikes ) do so simply out  of fear and cowardice...and paranoia.
-and the real enemy ( al Qaeda) knows that and uses it against us with delight.  We need a change!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retire05:</p>
<p>Of course McCain doesn&#8217;t long for war with him having to fight, and as President he wouldn&#8217;t have to fight.  But his military experience and dogged determination to overcome his enemy (in Vietnam)  may have skewed his judgement on the <i>need to overcome militarily </i> in Iraq&#8230;just a thought. It just seems that he doesn’t want a negotiated end&#8230;as the generals say must happen, but that he wants blood and a great military victory.  The thinking about Vietnam is that we weren’t allowed to win militarily there.  Maybe he doesn’t want a repeat&#8230;.To me it seems obvious that McCain, like Bush, is determined at any cost to succeed militarily&#8230;&#8230;something all the experts and generals say can’t happen.<br />
His whole Vietnam experience no doubt influences how he looks at the present situation&#8230;rightly or wrongly.<br />
McCain is acting  as though the success of the Surge is proof that the war was justified.  There is a big disconnect there.  The Surge succeeding is not proof that the war was justified to begin with.  I have not heard McCain say the war was a mistake and that we shouldn&#8217;t have gone there.  He is as stubborn as Bush.  I’ve always been taught that stubborn and stupid are synonymous.<br />
It seems some people are willing to go around like rabid dogs attacking and bombing  any country that presents even the remotest threat to the US.<br />
The American public who puts  up with this kind of policy (pre-emptive strikes ) do so simply out  of fear and cowardice&#8230;and paranoia.<br />
-and the real enemy ( al Qaeda) knows that and uses it against us with delight.  We need a change!</p>
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		<title>By: CM Knudsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>CM Knudsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To whom it may concern:

Talk about Ignorance!  Take a typo and use it as proof that I&#039;m a bleeding heart liberal.  You might not buy it, but what I&#039;ve said about my voting record is  true and I can give any of  you references to persons who absolutely know it. In fact when my brother and sister found out I was against the war - it is immoral and it’s breaking us,  and voting for Obama if he gets the nomination, they have all but disowned me.  My sister now refuses to discuss politics with me at all, and my brother pretty much has taken the same stance that you all do, that any deviation from absolute party line pro-Bush insanity is proof I&#039;m a traitor and not fit for family functions-   I thought this kind of thing only happened during the civil war, but found out I am wrong.  

However, I remain strongly pro-life, rabidly-anti abortion, rabidly anti-gun control - I believe that gun control is an abomination because it leaves a population and it&#039;s children at the mercy of tyrants and invaders - and it&#039;s own government gone bad, (think Ruby Ridge - right out my back door- and Waco - and Abu Ghraib - and Guantanamo again) I strongly oppose gay marriage, and taxes (again-remember, I&#039;m in Idaho - everybody in Idaho hates taxes...don’t believe me?  Just come here and ask anyone) 
 But &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; are phoneys when you say you don&#039;t like big government.  You appear to love it when it serves right-wing causes!
   Let&#039;s see, who got the big bail-outs by the Feds this week...oh yes, it was the banks, wasn&#039;t it? 
Another place we absolutely differ. You all love absolute police (gov) power over the people.  You all love huge brotherhoods of (secret style) police (dressed in black with dogs) and huge costly prisons to imprison your fellow citizens...etc...None of you seem to mind that kind of big time (extremely costly) governmental control. All of you &lt;i&gt;&#039;throw the keys away lovers of justice&#039;&lt;/i&gt; You are intolerant and bigoted and as blind as Bush, Cheney, &amp; McCain are to the huge divides and enormous problems brewing and simmering right below the surface in this country. The only difference is that you may care, but Bush, Cheney, McCain don’t care. Isn’t  this really the basis of your fear - the smoldering of so many injustices ready to erupt?
 
Remember, where there is no justice, there is no peace!  And won’t be!  History proves it.

What happened to your &lt;i&gt;equal justice for all &lt;/i&gt; ideal...decide to throw that one out too - along with the Bill of Rights and half the Constitution? The Constitution and flag you wrap your self so proudly in!!  Seems you have no problem trashing the Constitution as long  as &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; are secure and protected by your corrupt judiciary? What hypocrisy. 
You are so over the edge radical and party-line absolute, that any sniff of a differing opinion is proof to you that a person is a rabid bleeding heart liberal - therefore evil.  Shades of Salem.
Proof of fear!!

The truth is you are rabid intolerant fear-mongering robotic Bushite Republicans interested only in yourselves and your own selfish interests. And the truth is, if you don’t address your fears and cowardice and deal with this countries problems  you will finish destroying this country and yourselves along with it.  

You have to remember where I come from - that Idaho is RED and votes RED.  You also have to know that Idaho(and much of the west) voted Obama this time.  You also should conclude that some of the Republicans that you’ve heard of switching to Obama are from Idaho.  I am one of them!  Jeeezzzz! What&#039;s so hard to figure. You got a problem with that?  Or have you thrown out freedom of speech too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To whom it may concern:</p>
<p>Talk about Ignorance!  Take a typo and use it as proof that I&#8217;m a bleeding heart liberal.  You might not buy it, but what I&#8217;ve said about my voting record is  true and I can give any of  you references to persons who absolutely know it. In fact when my brother and sister found out I was against the war &#8211; it is immoral and it’s breaking us,  and voting for Obama if he gets the nomination, they have all but disowned me.  My sister now refuses to discuss politics with me at all, and my brother pretty much has taken the same stance that you all do, that any deviation from absolute party line pro-Bush insanity is proof I&#8217;m a traitor and not fit for family functions-   I thought this kind of thing only happened during the civil war, but found out I am wrong.  </p>
<p>However, I remain strongly pro-life, rabidly-anti abortion, rabidly anti-gun control &#8211; I believe that gun control is an abomination because it leaves a population and it&#8217;s children at the mercy of tyrants and invaders &#8211; and it&#8217;s own government gone bad, (think Ruby Ridge &#8211; right out my back door- and Waco &#8211; and Abu Ghraib &#8211; and Guantanamo again) I strongly oppose gay marriage, and taxes (again-remember, I&#8217;m in Idaho &#8211; everybody in Idaho hates taxes&#8230;don’t believe me?  Just come here and ask anyone)<br />
 But <i>you</i> are phoneys when you say you don&#8217;t like big government.  You appear to love it when it serves right-wing causes!<br />
   Let&#8217;s see, who got the big bail-outs by the Feds this week&#8230;oh yes, it was the banks, wasn&#8217;t it?<br />
Another place we absolutely differ. You all love absolute police (gov) power over the people.  You all love huge brotherhoods of (secret style) police (dressed in black with dogs) and huge costly prisons to imprison your fellow citizens&#8230;etc&#8230;None of you seem to mind that kind of big time (extremely costly) governmental control. All of you <i>&#8216;throw the keys away lovers of justice&#8217;</i> You are intolerant and bigoted and as blind as Bush, Cheney, &amp; McCain are to the huge divides and enormous problems brewing and simmering right below the surface in this country. The only difference is that you may care, but Bush, Cheney, McCain don’t care. Isn’t  this really the basis of your fear &#8211; the smoldering of so many injustices ready to erupt?</p>
<p>Remember, where there is no justice, there is no peace!  And won’t be!  History proves it.</p>
<p>What happened to your <i>equal justice for all </i> ideal&#8230;decide to throw that one out too &#8211; along with the Bill of Rights and half the Constitution? The Constitution and flag you wrap your self so proudly in!!  Seems you have no problem trashing the Constitution as long  as <i>you</i> are secure and protected by your corrupt judiciary? What hypocrisy.<br />
You are so over the edge radical and party-line absolute, that any sniff of a differing opinion is proof to you that a person is a rabid bleeding heart liberal &#8211; therefore evil.  Shades of Salem.<br />
Proof of fear!!</p>
<p>The truth is you are rabid intolerant fear-mongering robotic Bushite Republicans interested only in yourselves and your own selfish interests. And the truth is, if you don’t address your fears and cowardice and deal with this countries problems  you will finish destroying this country and yourselves along with it.  </p>
<p>You have to remember where I come from &#8211; that Idaho is RED and votes RED.  You also have to know that Idaho(and much of the west) voted Obama this time.  You also should conclude that some of the Republicans that you’ve heard of switching to Obama are from Idaho.  I am one of them!  Jeeezzzz! What&#8217;s so hard to figure. You got a problem with that?  Or have you thrown out freedom of speech too?</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 04:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana - I forgot to point out that lifelong Republican, CM, didn&#039;t even spell Reagan right.

I don&#039;t buy the act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana &#8211; I forgot to point out that lifelong Republican, CM, didn&#8217;t even spell Reagan right.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy the act.</p>
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		<title>By: retire05</title>
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		<dc:creator>retire05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CM Knudsen,
McCain loves war?  Yeah, he longs for those days of broken arms, no medical treatment and constant beatings all due to war.

Do you enjoy exposing your blatant ingornace?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CM Knudsen,<br />
McCain loves war?  Yeah, he longs for those days of broken arms, no medical treatment and constant beatings all due to war.</p>
<p>Do you enjoy exposing your blatant ingornace?</p>
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