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	<title>Comments on: Mark Steyn on Obama</title>
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	<description>Harangues that just make sense</description>
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		<title>By: steve miller</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/15/mark-steyn-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-326917</link>
		<dc:creator>steve miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone has pieced all the information together yet. But Barry better have a good story on Monday, something like, &quot;Well, you know, I fell asleep a lot during the sermons.&quot;

Still, there is the idea that he brought his kids along for the Get Whitey sermons. And that this man who wants to be there to pick up the Red Phone took 20 years to figure out that Revrun Wright is one maraschino cherry short of a fruit salad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone has pieced all the information together yet. But Barry better have a good story on Monday, something like, &#8220;Well, you know, I fell asleep a lot during the sermons.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still, there is the idea that he brought his kids along for the Get Whitey sermons. And that this man who wants to be there to pick up the Red Phone took 20 years to figure out that Revrun Wright is one maraschino cherry short of a fruit salad.</p>
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		<title>By: DRJ</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/15/mark-steyn-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-326916</link>
		<dc:creator>DRJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s big, Steve Miller.  Obama had the tapes.  How many could there have been?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s big, Steve Miller.  Obama had the tapes.  How many could there have been?</p>
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		<title>By: steve miller</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/15/mark-steyn-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-326914</link>
		<dc:creator>steve miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s still entertaining. 

In a sad sort of way. Beware of those whom you step on on your way up the ladder, because they will be there to watch you as you come down at a faster pace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s still entertaining. </p>
<p>In a sad sort of way. Beware of those whom you step on on your way up the ladder, because they will be there to watch you as you come down at a faster pace.</p>
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		<title>By: DRJ</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/15/mark-steyn-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-326912</link>
		<dc:creator>DRJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my.  That links to a New York Times article.  This has gone beyond entertainment.  &lt;strike&gt;It&#039;s bloodletting.&lt;/strike&gt; 

EDIT:  The New York Times article is from April 30, 2007, so they may not have known what they had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my.  That links to a New York Times article.  This has gone beyond entertainment.  <strike>It&#8217;s bloodletting.</strike> </p>
<p>EDIT:  The New York Times article is from April 30, 2007, so they may not have known what they had.</p>
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		<title>By: steve miller</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/15/mark-steyn-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-326911</link>
		<dc:creator>steve miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, even more fun. Seems Barry brought the tapes &lt;b&gt;with him&lt;/b&gt; to Harvard to &quot;fortif[y] himself.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://perfunction.typepad.com/perfunction/2008/03/awaken-the-gian.html&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Perfunction: Awaken the Giant Within&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;It [Trinity United Church of Christ] also helped give him spiritual &lt;i&gt;bona fides&lt;/i&gt; and a new assurance. Services at Trinity were a weekly master class in how to move an audience. When Mr. Obama arrived at Harvard Law School later that year, &lt;b&gt;where he fortified himself with recordings of Mr. Wright’s sermons&lt;/b&gt;, he was delivering stirring speeches as a student leader in the classic oratorical style of the black church.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, even more fun. Seems Barry brought the tapes <b>with him</b> to Harvard to &#8220;fortif[y] himself.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://perfunction.typepad.com/perfunction/2008/03/awaken-the-gian.html" title="" rel="nofollow">Perfunction: Awaken the Giant Within</a></p>
<blockquote><p>It [Trinity United Church of Christ] also helped give him spiritual <i>bona fides</i> and a new assurance. Services at Trinity were a weekly master class in how to move an audience. When Mr. Obama arrived at Harvard Law School later that year, <b>where he fortified himself with recordings of Mr. Wright’s sermons</b>, he was delivering stirring speeches as a student leader in the classic oratorical style of the black church.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: steve miller</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/15/mark-steyn-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-326900</link>
		<dc:creator>steve miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good summation.

&lt;blockquote&gt; One understands why that might not seem obvious to black people of a certain age: Condi Rice, for example, has childhood memories of a segregated south and racial violence. But that&#039;s what makes Obama&#039;s association with Wright so significant. He&#039;s not from Alabama. He&#039;s a biracial middle-class Kenyan-Kansan Hawaiian-born Indonesian-raised Columbia and Harvard graduate who chose to immerse himself in the most corrosive and paranoid end of a racial-grievance ghetto mentality that is nothing to do with him, his family or his upbringing. He doesn&#039;t have the same excuse as a Jackson, Sharpton or Farrakhan. 

Why would he do such a thing? I wouldn&#039;t expose my kids to the four-letter ravings of Jeremiah Wright because I wouldn&#039;t want them to grow up loathing their country. I find it hard not to think less of a man who does.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZmYyYTViNDA0ODYwYWE4ZjM3N2Y0ZWViYTM1NGMwOGU=&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mark Steyn&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good summation.</p>
<blockquote><p> One understands why that might not seem obvious to black people of a certain age: Condi Rice, for example, has childhood memories of a segregated south and racial violence. But that&#8217;s what makes Obama&#8217;s association with Wright so significant. He&#8217;s not from Alabama. He&#8217;s a biracial middle-class Kenyan-Kansan Hawaiian-born Indonesian-raised Columbia and Harvard graduate who chose to immerse himself in the most corrosive and paranoid end of a racial-grievance ghetto mentality that is nothing to do with him, his family or his upbringing. He doesn&#8217;t have the same excuse as a Jackson, Sharpton or Farrakhan. </p>
<p>Why would he do such a thing? I wouldn&#8217;t expose my kids to the four-letter ravings of Jeremiah Wright because I wouldn&#8217;t want them to grow up loathing their country. I find it hard not to think less of a man who does.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZmYyYTViNDA0ODYwYWE4ZjM3N2Y0ZWViYTM1NGMwOGU=" title="" rel="nofollow">Mark Steyn</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patterico</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/15/mark-steyn-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-326898</link>
		<dc:creator>Patterico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Cobb, actually, the language you quoted with approval alleged:

&lt;blockquote&gt;They are instead seeking to read their own psychological realities into a handful of his words taken out of the context in which they were spoken.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So I asked you what was the missing context that would supposedly make Wright&#039;s assertions less outrageous?  You appear to concede that there is no missing context; your claim is, rather, that Obama can&#039;t control what his pastor says.

True enough -- but he can choose where to go to church.  And any claim that analogizes the Obama/Wright relationship to the McCain/Hagee relationship is, frankly, bullshit.  Obama/Wright is a much closer relationship, by several orders of magnitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Cobb, actually, the language you quoted with approval alleged:</p>
<blockquote><p>They are instead seeking to read their own psychological realities into a handful of his words taken out of the context in which they were spoken.</p></blockquote>
<p>So I asked you what was the missing context that would supposedly make Wright&#8217;s assertions less outrageous?  You appear to concede that there is no missing context; your claim is, rather, that Obama can&#8217;t control what his pastor says.</p>
<p>True enough &#8212; but he can choose where to go to church.  And any claim that analogizes the Obama/Wright relationship to the McCain/Hagee relationship is, frankly, bullshit.  Obama/Wright is a much closer relationship, by several orders of magnitude.</p>
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		<title>By: steve miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are left with a preacher that is comfortable saying &quot;God damn the US&quot; from the pulpit, and a congregation that is comfortable with hearing it. (The church itself apparently includes this video snippet in its DVD of &quot;Greatest Hits of Revrun Wright&#039;s &#039;Get Whitey&#039; Sermons.&quot;)

And, we&#039;re left with a major party&#039;s presidential candidate showing his appalling inability to speak out against racial lunacy until someone points out that it&#039;s ... well, lunacy. Where was Barry&#039;s finely tuned sense of outrage when Wright dissed his white self?

I know, context. At least he didn&#039;t blame white people for spreading AIDS in the black community.

Oh wait. He already did that, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are left with a preacher that is comfortable saying &#8220;God damn the US&#8221; from the pulpit, and a congregation that is comfortable with hearing it. (The church itself apparently includes this video snippet in its DVD of &#8220;Greatest Hits of Revrun Wright&#8217;s &#8216;Get Whitey&#8217; Sermons.&#8221;)</p>
<p>And, we&#8217;re left with a major party&#8217;s presidential candidate showing his appalling inability to speak out against racial lunacy until someone points out that it&#8217;s &#8230; well, lunacy. Where was Barry&#8217;s finely tuned sense of outrage when Wright dissed his white self?</p>
<p>I know, context. At least he didn&#8217;t blame white people for spreading AIDS in the black community.</p>
<p>Oh wait. He already did that, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Cobb</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/15/mark-steyn-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-326891</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I thought I got the context of the “God damn America” comment. I thought I got the context of the comment that our chickens were coming home to roost with 9/11. What context was i not given that would make those statements acceptable?&lt;/i&gt;

Exactly the same context that McCain&#039;s campaign has given, which is that you cannot control the opinions of everyone that supports you. Considering the fact that Wright has been dissed and dismissed, as was completely predictable to me, we are left with nothing, I think, but suspicion of some unknown fraction of America as described in comment #31.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I thought I got the context of the “God damn America” comment. I thought I got the context of the comment that our chickens were coming home to roost with 9/11. What context was i not given that would make those statements acceptable?</i></p>
<p>Exactly the same context that McCain&#8217;s campaign has given, which is that you cannot control the opinions of everyone that supports you. Considering the fact that Wright has been dissed and dismissed, as was completely predictable to me, we are left with nothing, I think, but suspicion of some unknown fraction of America as described in comment #31.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Drew</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/15/mark-steyn-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-326867</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana, #32...
Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana, #32&#8230;<br />
Yes.</p>
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