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	<title>Comments on: Should We Allow GTMO Detainees to Phone Home?</title>
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	<description>Harangues that just make sense</description>
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		<title>By: krazy kagu</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/13/should-we-allow-gtmo-detainees-to-phone-home/comment-page-1/#comment-326180</link>
		<dc:creator>krazy kagu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let the liberals pay their phone bills</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let the liberals pay their phone bills</p>
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		<title>By: martin</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/13/should-we-allow-gtmo-detainees-to-phone-home/comment-page-1/#comment-326157</link>
		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys were picked up by uniformed soldiers and marines in the field in circumstances that make their getting shot perfectly moral, legal and valid.

If I were bush, when this crap blew up I would have read aloud from the section of the Geneva convention regarding the treatment of unauthorized combatants, particularly those who commit war crimes, and then announce that they were all shot that morning.

Then I would have the DOJ start filing treason charges against agitators in the press and elsewhere who are providing moral support to the enemy.

But I guess that means I could never get the office, not slimey enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys were picked up by uniformed soldiers and marines in the field in circumstances that make their getting shot perfectly moral, legal and valid.</p>
<p>If I were bush, when this crap blew up I would have read aloud from the section of the Geneva convention regarding the treatment of unauthorized combatants, particularly those who commit war crimes, and then announce that they were all shot that morning.</p>
<p>Then I would have the DOJ start filing treason charges against agitators in the press and elsewhere who are providing moral support to the enemy.</p>
<p>But I guess that means I could never get the office, not slimey enough.</p>
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		<title>By: reff</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/13/should-we-allow-gtmo-detainees-to-phone-home/comment-page-1/#comment-326155</link>
		<dc:creator>reff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JayHub, are you saying that it is wrong for the Executive Branch to perform the duties given to it by the Constitution???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JayHub, are you saying that it is wrong for the Executive Branch to perform the duties given to it by the Constitution???</p>
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		<title>By: Stashiu3</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/13/should-we-allow-gtmo-detainees-to-phone-home/comment-page-1/#comment-326145</link>
		<dc:creator>Stashiu3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Still solely an executive branch decision with no review.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Kind of like pardons and commutations which are also Executive Branch functions.  Nevertheless, the decisions about detainees are based on more than whimsy and the judgment of a single individual.  These guys were not just randomly plucked from open fields while tending wildflowers, so keeping them at Guantanamo is based more than on bureaucratic sayso.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Still solely an executive branch decision with no review.</p></blockquote>
<p> Kind of like pardons and commutations which are also Executive Branch functions.  Nevertheless, the decisions about detainees are based on more than whimsy and the judgment of a single individual.  These guys were not just randomly plucked from open fields while tending wildflowers, so keeping them at Guantanamo is based more than on bureaucratic sayso.</p>
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		<title>By: JayHub</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/13/should-we-allow-gtmo-detainees-to-phone-home/comment-page-1/#comment-326140</link>
		<dc:creator>JayHub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stashiu3

Still solely an executive branch decision with no review. As you can see, I don&#039;t agree with the process and think it fundamentally unjust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stashiu3</p>
<p>Still solely an executive branch decision with no review. As you can see, I don&#8217;t agree with the process and think it fundamentally unjust.</p>
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		<title>By: Stashiu3</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/13/should-we-allow-gtmo-detainees-to-phone-home/comment-page-1/#comment-326136</link>
		<dc:creator>Stashiu3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Since after years we are still holding these people based only on some government bureaucrat’s sayso&lt;/blockquote&gt;It&#039;s based on a bit more than some bureaucrat&#039;s sayso.  A lot more actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Since after years we are still holding these people based only on some government bureaucrat’s sayso</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s based on a bit more than some bureaucrat&#8217;s sayso.  A lot more actually.</p>
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		<title>By: JayHub</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/13/should-we-allow-gtmo-detainees-to-phone-home/comment-page-1/#comment-326134</link>
		<dc:creator>JayHub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since after years we are still holding these people based only on some government bureaucrat&#039;s sayso, I think we could let them talk to their families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since after years we are still holding these people based only on some government bureaucrat&#8217;s sayso, I think we could let them talk to their families.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Drew</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/13/should-we-allow-gtmo-detainees-to-phone-home/comment-page-1/#comment-326124</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even better than monitoring their calls, as a prison inmate&#039;s are, would be to publish the transcripts on-line, so the entire world can judge.  Of course, editorial comment by the detainee&#039;s handlers/interrogators would be encouraged, to expose false accusations, etc, in those conversations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even better than monitoring their calls, as a prison inmate&#8217;s are, would be to publish the transcripts on-line, so the entire world can judge.  Of course, editorial comment by the detainee&#8217;s handlers/interrogators would be encouraged, to expose false accusations, etc, in those conversations.</p>
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		<title>By: Stashiu3</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/03/13/should-we-allow-gtmo-detainees-to-phone-home/comment-page-1/#comment-326118</link>
		<dc:creator>Stashiu3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s true that detainees and families might use this opportunity to communicate as means to generate negative publicity... bwahahahah... hold on... bwahahaha... ;)

Seriously, aren&#039;t the phone calls of inmates (unless with an attorney) in prison within the United States monitored?  I&#039;m sure these would be as well, so any &quot;misrepresentation&quot; in the call would be easily disproved.  If the military has waited this long before agreeing to this, they&#039;ve certainly considered the potential hazards.

It&#039;s also one more privilege that could be removed for any misbehavior... and by misbehavior I mean throwing feces, urine, or other things; trying to strike guards or staff; hunger-strikes, etc... Some are saying that we already have too many carrots and not enough sticks.  For the type of intelligence we&#039;re trying to get from these guys (methods, contacts, etc... i.e. non-immediate threats) carrots are what work.  The stick is for things we have to know &lt;i&gt;right now&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s true that detainees and families might use this opportunity to communicate as means to generate negative publicity&#8230; bwahahahah&#8230; hold on&#8230; bwahahaha&#8230; <img src='http://patterico.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, aren&#8217;t the phone calls of inmates (unless with an attorney) in prison within the United States monitored?  I&#8217;m sure these would be as well, so any &#8220;misrepresentation&#8221; in the call would be easily disproved.  If the military has waited this long before agreeing to this, they&#8217;ve certainly considered the potential hazards.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also one more privilege that could be removed for any misbehavior&#8230; and by misbehavior I mean throwing feces, urine, or other things; trying to strike guards or staff; hunger-strikes, etc&#8230; Some are saying that we already have too many carrots and not enough sticks.  For the type of intelligence we&#8217;re trying to get from these guys (methods, contacts, etc&#8230; i.e. non-immediate threats) carrots are what work.  The stick is for things we have to know <i>right now</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: DRJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DRJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good link.  I&#039;m not a terrorist sympathizer but Stashiu convinced me it&#039;s a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good link.  I&#8217;m not a terrorist sympathizer but Stashiu convinced me it&#8217;s a good idea.</p>
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