Comments on: Will Obama Accept Public Financing As He Promised? http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/ Harangues that just make sense Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:43:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: ThomasD http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320988 ThomasD Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:32:04 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320988 Let's just call it the new <i>okie dokie</i> and then we can all <i>move on.</i> Let’s just call it the new okie dokie and then we can all move on.

]]> By: MarkJ http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320724 MarkJ Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:18:16 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320724 Well, gonna do a dance and it goes like this The name of the dance is the 'Bama-hedge twist In a year like this - a big money twist Round and round, up and down Round and round, up and down Around and around, and a up and down and a One, two, three kick, one, two, three go Well, meet McCain on Halfway Street The place where the Five-Two-Seven's meet We wanna learn to do this - the 'Bama-hedge twist It's allright, all night It's allright (allright, allright, allright) It's okay all day It's okay (okay, okay, okay) You wanna learn to do this - the 'Bama-hedge twist Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah) Yeah, yeah, yeah-yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah) You wanna learn to do this - the 'Bama-hedge twist Come on everybody, lay your hands Ah, Hope and Change! Gonna beat Hill'ry's gong and it won't take long The 'Bama-hedge twist and it goes like this Round and round, up and down Round and round, up and down Around and around, and a up and down and a One, two, three kick, one, two, three go Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah) Yeah, yeah, yeah-yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah) I wanna learn to do this - the 'Bama-hedge twist Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah) Yeah, yeah, yeah-yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah) I wanna learn to do this - the 'Bama-hedge twist... Well, gonna do a dance and it goes like this
The name of the dance is the ‘Bama-hedge twist
In a year like this - a big money twist

Round and round, up and down
Round and round, up and down
Around and around, and a up and down and a
One, two, three kick, one, two, three go

Well, meet McCain on Halfway Street
The place where the Five-Two-Seven’s meet
We wanna learn to do this - the ‘Bama-hedge twist

It’s allright, all night
It’s allright (allright, allright, allright)
It’s okay all day
It’s okay (okay, okay, okay)
You wanna learn to do this - the ‘Bama-hedge twist

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah)
Yeah, yeah, yeah-yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah)
You wanna learn to do this - the ‘Bama-hedge twist

Come on everybody, lay your hands
Ah, Hope and Change!
Gonna beat Hill’ry’s gong and it won’t take long
The ‘Bama-hedge twist and it goes like this

Round and round, up and down
Round and round, up and down
Around and around, and a up and down and a
One, two, three kick, one, two, three go

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah)
Yeah, yeah, yeah-yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah)
I wanna learn to do this - the ‘Bama-hedge twist

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah)
Yeah, yeah, yeah-yeah, (yeah, yeah, yeah)
I wanna learn to do this - the ‘Bama-hedge twist…

]]> By: Leviticus http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320660 Leviticus Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:16:00 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320660 Ahem... "renege" That said, if he keeps his word despite the vocal crowing to the Democratic party machinery, I will be proud to vote for him. Ahem… “renege”

That said, if he keeps his word despite the vocal crowing to the Democratic party machinery, I will be proud to vote for him.

]]> By: Leviticus http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320658 Leviticus Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:12:13 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320658 If Obama made such a pledge, and renegs on it, then he is a bastard/typical politician, and I will take everything he says from now on with an <i>additional</i> grain of salt. If Obama made such a pledge, and renegs on it, then he is a bastard/typical politician, and I will take everything he says from now on with an additional grain of salt.

]]> By: DRJ http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320644 DRJ Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:16:06 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320644 I don't expect him to keep this pledge either, not as long as his fund-raising continues at this pace. What will be interesting is the excuse he uses to get out of it. I don’t expect him to keep this pledge either, not as long as his fund-raising continues at this pace. What will be interesting is the excuse he uses to get out of it.

]]> By: JayHub http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320640 JayHub Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:54:19 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320640 DRJ, much as I like politicians keeping their word, I don't see how Obama can agree at this point. If he does, as the RealClearPolitics article linked by Captain Ed points out, the result will just be Senator Clinton using it against him in the nomination fight. She'll argue that he's just offering the "Republicans an opportunity to win ... [That if] she is the nominee, she can make the case to primary voters, she will show Republicans no mercy, making her the more electable candidate." It's one thing it seems to me to go back on whatever he proposed a year ago, if it was just him and McCain involved. Seems quite another to me when the Clintons are involved. She, of course, never agreed to any of this, but would be quick to take advantage of it. Would be hard for me, as Obama, to give her such a weapon, since I expect he agrees with all of us that another Clinton Presidency would not be a good thing for the country, though perhaps not for the same reasons. DRJ, much as I like politicians keeping their word, I don’t see how Obama can agree at this point.

If he does, as the RealClearPolitics article linked by Captain Ed points out, the result will just be Senator Clinton using it against him in the nomination fight. She’ll argue that he’s just offering the “Republicans an opportunity to win … [That if] she is the nominee, she can make the case to primary voters, she will show Republicans no mercy, making her the more electable candidate.”

It’s one thing it seems to me to go back on whatever he proposed a year ago, if it was just him and McCain involved. Seems quite another to me when the Clintons are involved. She, of course, never agreed to any of this, but would be quick to take advantage of it.

Would be hard for me, as Obama, to give her such a weapon, since I expect he agrees with all of us that another Clinton Presidency would not be a good thing for the country, though perhaps not for the same reasons.

]]> By: Headhunt23 http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320626 Headhunt23 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:18:19 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320626 He will take the matching funds. The funds are only available after 28 Aug when the Dems end their conventions. $85M, plus the match, is more than enough for the fall campaign. Also, remember that both Bush and Kerry toook federal matching funds in 2004. Why wouldn't Obama. He will take the matching funds. The funds are only available after 28 Aug when the Dems end their conventions. $85M, plus the match, is more than enough for the fall campaign.

Also, remember that both Bush and Kerry toook federal matching funds in 2004. Why wouldn’t Obama.

]]> By: DRJ http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320622 DRJ Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:08:58 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320622 Stef #4, The issue Patterico raised isn't whether there is "more of the same" when it comes to public financing. The issue is whether there is "more of the same" when it comes to politicians keeping their word. But you knew that. Stef #4,

The issue Patterico raised isn’t whether there is “more of the same” when it comes to public financing. The issue is whether there is “more of the same” when it comes to politicians keeping their word.

But you knew that.

]]> By: Patterico http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320621 Patterico Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:08:43 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320621 McCain says Obama signed a piece of paper memorializing the pledge. I believe if you follow the link, and the links therein, you'll see it. Perhaps stef can explain how Obama could reject public financing and still keep his word. McCain says Obama signed a piece of paper memorializing the pledge. I believe if you follow the link, and the links therein, you’ll see it.

Perhaps stef can explain how Obama could reject public financing and still keep his word.

]]> By: wt http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320619 wt Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:08:12 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/02/18/will-obama-accept-public-financing-as-he-promised/#comment-320619 If Obama either declines public financing or offers McCain an unacceptable take-it-or-leave-it deal (no donations over $200), he will be guilty of not "aggressively pursuing" an arrangement with McCain. And that is a fantastic talking point for McCain. "Obama's notion of aggressively pursuing something is trying once or twice and then giving up. Let's hope he never promises to aggressively pursue your interests." I should be Karl Rove. If Obama either declines public financing or offers McCain an unacceptable take-it-or-leave-it deal (no donations over $200), he will be guilty of not “aggressively pursuing” an arrangement with McCain.

And that is a fantastic talking point for McCain.

“Obama’s notion of aggressively pursuing something is trying once or twice and then giving up. Let’s hope he never promises to aggressively pursue your interests.”

I should be Karl Rove.

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