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	<title>Comments on: Obama on the Second Amendment</title>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/16/obama-on-the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-409627</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Second amendment not only gives citizens the right to protect themselves and their homes with arms, but it is the last refuge of the citizen(s) against tyrannical government, be it federal, state, OR more local........You have to remember that police/sheriff/law enforcement agencies have NO constitutional duty to protect ANYONE....... (which i agree with by the way)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Second amendment not only gives citizens the right to protect themselves and their homes with arms, but it is the last refuge of the citizen(s) against tyrannical government, be it federal, state, OR more local&#8230;&#8230;..You have to remember that police/sheriff/law enforcement agencies have NO constitutional duty to protect ANYONE&#8230;&#8230;. (which i agree with by the way)</p>
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		<title>By: msvet</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/16/obama-on-the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-368298</link>
		<dc:creator>msvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the second amendment give us the ability to defend our homes, business and other property from those who do not worry about what the law does and doesn&#039;t say. if you are going to wait for the cops to get to your home invasion then you very well may be dead. that may be a choice for the liberals in this country but that is not why I went and fought for this country. As long as there is a second amendment then there will be guns in my house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the second amendment give us the ability to defend our homes, business and other property from those who do not worry about what the law does and doesn&#8217;t say. if you are going to wait for the cops to get to your home invasion then you very well may be dead. that may be a choice for the liberals in this country but that is not why I went and fought for this country. As long as there is a second amendment then there will be guns in my house.</p>
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		<title>By: tommy price</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommy price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OBAMA,LIKE ALL LIBERALS BELEIVES IN 9 AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION.THEY WANT TO ELIMINATE THE SECOND AMENDMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE COWARDS AND FEAR THIER OWN SHADOWS..TAX&amp;SPEND, TAX&amp;SPEND,TAX&amp;SPEND IT ON USELESS FEDERAL SCHEMES AND PIE-IN-THE-SKY GIVE AWAYS.HE IS A VERY INTELLIGENT MAN,BUT HE IS AN INTELLIGENT AND RANK AMATEUR.HIM AND HIS ANGRY WIFE SHOULD JUST BURY THEMSELVES BACK IN THIER HARVARD CLASSROOMS,AND LEAVE THE REAL WORLD TO REALISTIC PEOPLE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBAMA,LIKE ALL LIBERALS BELEIVES IN 9 AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION.THEY WANT TO ELIMINATE THE SECOND AMENDMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE COWARDS AND FEAR THIER OWN SHADOWS..TAX&amp;SPEND, TAX&amp;SPEND,TAX&amp;SPEND IT ON USELESS FEDERAL SCHEMES AND PIE-IN-THE-SKY GIVE AWAYS.HE IS A VERY INTELLIGENT MAN,BUT HE IS AN INTELLIGENT AND RANK AMATEUR.HIM AND HIS ANGRY WIFE SHOULD JUST BURY THEMSELVES BACK IN THIER HARVARD CLASSROOMS,AND LEAVE THE REAL WORLD TO REALISTIC PEOPLE</p>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/16/obama-on-the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-321985</link>
		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SDJ: that can be a very short discussion.  On the First Amendment, both candidates have a record that leaves something to be desired.  On the Second, Obama sucks and McCain rocks.  Advantage: McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SDJ: that can be a very short discussion.  On the First Amendment, both candidates have a record that leaves something to be desired.  On the Second, Obama sucks and McCain rocks.  Advantage: McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: S.D.J</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.D.J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank for all of your input.

After carefully reading it, I am convinced that Obama does not support the constitution.

...the trouble is niether does McCain ...

How about a discussion the the lesser of two evils?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank for all of your input.</p>
<p>After carefully reading it, I am convinced that Obama does not support the constitution.</p>
<p>&#8230;the trouble is niether does McCain &#8230;</p>
<p>How about a discussion the the lesser of two evils?</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/16/obama-on-the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-320739</link>
		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernstein of the Volokh Conspiracy has &lt;a href=&quot;http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_02_17-2008_02_23.shtml#1203389334&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;quotations from 1999 of Obama&#039;s proposals for more gun control&lt;/a&gt; measures and ridiculous punitive measures on gun owners.

Any attempt by Obama to portray himself as supportive of Second Amendment rights in view of these past positions will be rightly ridiculed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernstein of the Volokh Conspiracy has <a href="http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_02_17-2008_02_23.shtml#1203389334" rel="nofollow">quotations from 1999 of Obama&#8217;s proposals for more gun control</a> measures and ridiculous punitive measures on gun owners.</p>
<p>Any attempt by Obama to portray himself as supportive of Second Amendment rights in view of these past positions will be rightly ridiculed.</p>
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		<title>By: Unix-Jedi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unix-Jedi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama was one of the 12 board members of the Joyce Foundation from 1998-2001.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://geekwitha45.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_archive.html#110977803735820875&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some description of the &quot;grassroots&quot; Joyce &quot;support&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know how anybody can seriously, with a straight face, say that Obama supports in any way shape or form individual gun ownership.

(Without his explaining his change from the time he was on the Joyce Board, at least.)

Funny that Greenberg (as does very few in the press) didn&#039;t think that was worthy of mention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama was one of the 12 board members of the Joyce Foundation from 1998-2001.</p>
<p><a href="http://geekwitha45.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_archive.html#110977803735820875" rel="nofollow">Some description of the &#8220;grassroots&#8221; Joyce &#8220;support&#8221;</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how anybody can seriously, with a straight face, say that Obama supports in any way shape or form individual gun ownership.</p>
<p>(Without his explaining his change from the time he was on the Joyce Board, at least.)</p>
<p>Funny that Greenberg (as does very few in the press) didn&#8217;t think that was worthy of mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;subject only to the police power&quot;
Isn&#039;t this the basis for the argument between the NRA, and the City of New Orleans?  And, thankfully, so far the Fed Courts have not been supportive of the City.

Just where does Obama stand on the 2nd Amendment?

Since the good Senator is, and always has been in his political life, a paid cog in the Daley Machine, all we have to do is understand the Daley position on Gun Rights to see where the Senator stands.  I think I can say without fear of contradiction, that Mayor Daley believes that civilians should not be allowed to have firearms, and has worked tirelessly to make that viewpoint predominant in IL law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;subject only to the police power&#8221;<br />
Isn&#8217;t this the basis for the argument between the NRA, and the City of New Orleans?  And, thankfully, so far the Fed Courts have not been supportive of the City.</p>
<p>Just where does Obama stand on the 2nd Amendment?</p>
<p>Since the good Senator is, and always has been in his political life, a paid cog in the Daley Machine, all we have to do is understand the Daley position on Gun Rights to see where the Senator stands.  I think I can say without fear of contradiction, that Mayor Daley believes that civilians should not be allowed to have firearms, and has worked tirelessly to make that viewpoint predominant in IL law.</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.gun.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN&#039;s summary of the positions by candidates&lt;/a&gt; states that Obama wants to &lt;b&gt;preempt&lt;/b&gt; local concealed carry laws with a national ban on concealed carry.

That&#039;s pretty clearly anti-Second Amendment and anti-Federalism all at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.gun.html" rel="nofollow">CNN&#8217;s summary of the positions by candidates</a> states that Obama wants to <b>preempt</b> local concealed carry laws with a national ban on concealed carry.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty clearly anti-Second Amendment and anti-Federalism all at once.</p>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IOW, &quot;subject only to the police power&quot; is just a cute way of saying &quot;unless they want to.&quot;  The Obama view to a tee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IOW, &#8220;subject only to the police power&#8221; is just a cute way of saying &#8220;unless they want to.&#8221;  The Obama view to a tee.</p>
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