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		<title>By: L.N. Smithee</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.N. Smithee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>glasnost wrote: &lt;i&gt;The vast majority of the conservative blogosphere has been engaged in an orgy of wild exaggeration, fatuous nitpicking, and malignant road-rage two-minute hatefests for the past seven years. And this is what it comes to, as it always does: self-destruction. John McCain doesn’t suck up to them, tickle their egos, or follow their twisted priorities in entirety, so he might as well be the AntiChrist. Hey, conservative bloggers! The evidence is staring you in the face. Not even Republican voters have any faith in your baloney. They don’t like immigration hardliners. They don’t like the Bush tax cuts. They don’t consider Justices Clarence Thomas and Mssr. Scalia to be good models. They think holding down massive donations to candidates is anti-bribery, not anti-’free-speech’. John McCain’s popularity, even among Republicans, is that he’s not a wild-eyed, spiteful, fulminating malcontent like yourselves.&lt;/i&gt;

Interesting perspective from a Republican who supports John McCain.  After all, the voices of those Republicans who support McCain have been few and far between, and when they do make themselves known, they usually don&#039;t express any enthusiasm for his candidacy as much as they concede that he is the only candidate who could save the USA from a Clinton or Obama-led America.

.....Hey, wait a minute...let me read this again...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Not even Republican voters have any faith in your baloney. &lt;b&gt;They &lt;/b&gt;don’t like immigration hardliners. &lt;b&gt;They &lt;/b&gt;don’t like the Bush tax cuts. &lt;b&gt;They &lt;/b&gt;don’t consider &lt;b&gt;Justices Clarence Thomas and Mssr. Scalia&lt;/b&gt; to be good models. &lt;b&gt;They &lt;/b&gt;think holding down massive donations to candidates is anti-bribery, not anti-’free-speech’...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whatever do you mean by &quot;they?&quot;  And what&#039;s with referring to Antonin Scalia as &quot;Master&quot;?  

Ohhhh...YOU&#039;RE NEITHER A CONSERVATIVE &lt;i&gt;OR&lt;/i&gt; A REPUBLICAN!

Well, who gives a rat&#039;s what YOU think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glasnost wrote: <i>The vast majority of the conservative blogosphere has been engaged in an orgy of wild exaggeration, fatuous nitpicking, and malignant road-rage two-minute hatefests for the past seven years. And this is what it comes to, as it always does: self-destruction. John McCain doesn’t suck up to them, tickle their egos, or follow their twisted priorities in entirety, so he might as well be the AntiChrist. Hey, conservative bloggers! The evidence is staring you in the face. Not even Republican voters have any faith in your baloney. They don’t like immigration hardliners. They don’t like the Bush tax cuts. They don’t consider Justices Clarence Thomas and Mssr. Scalia to be good models. They think holding down massive donations to candidates is anti-bribery, not anti-’free-speech’. John McCain’s popularity, even among Republicans, is that he’s not a wild-eyed, spiteful, fulminating malcontent like yourselves.</i></p>
<p>Interesting perspective from a Republican who supports John McCain.  After all, the voices of those Republicans who support McCain have been few and far between, and when they do make themselves known, they usually don&#8217;t express any enthusiasm for his candidacy as much as they concede that he is the only candidate who could save the USA from a Clinton or Obama-led America.</p>
<p>&#8230;..Hey, wait a minute&#8230;let me read this again&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Not even Republican voters have any faith in your baloney. <b>They </b>don’t like immigration hardliners. <b>They </b>don’t like the Bush tax cuts. <b>They </b>don’t consider <b>Justices Clarence Thomas and Mssr. Scalia</b> to be good models. <b>They </b>think holding down massive donations to candidates is anti-bribery, not anti-’free-speech’&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Whatever do you mean by &#8220;they?&#8221;  And what&#8217;s with referring to Antonin Scalia as &#8220;Master&#8221;?  </p>
<p>Ohhhh&#8230;YOU&#8217;RE NEITHER A CONSERVATIVE <i>OR</i> A REPUBLICAN!</p>
<p>Well, who gives a rat&#8217;s what YOU think?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;malignant road-rage two-minute hatefests for the past seven years&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Because DKos and FDL are bastions of calm, rational thought...

Pfft.  Please.
&lt;blockquote&gt;They don’t like immigration hardliners.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And they outright hated Amnesty, so why they are going for McCain I dunno...
&lt;blockquote&gt;They don’t consider Justices Clarence Thomas and Mssr. Scalia to be good models.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re starting to confuse &quot;People to the right of you&quot; with &quot;People on the right&quot;...
&lt;blockquote&gt;They think holding down massive donations to candidates is anti-bribery, not anti-’free-speech’.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That would be because hey don&#039;t understand the bill, which allows those exact same ads so long as they are PAC-funded, not GENERAL funded...
&lt;blockquote&gt;Go take ten years in the woods and come to the understanding that tax cuts and guerrilla wars are not ruby slippers that you can close your eyes, tap together three times, and solve the problems of your nation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
But massive tax-hikes, free social programs for people who A) don&#039;t pay into them and B)shouldn&#039;t be here in the first place, coddling people who actively want to kill you, and who wants to give people not unlike AlGore massive say over our economy to stop &quot;global warming&quot;, THAT is the answer?

I&#039;m not entirely sure, but I really don&#039;t think that sounded like republicans, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>malignant road-rage two-minute hatefests for the past seven years</p></blockquote>
<p>Because DKos and FDL are bastions of calm, rational thought&#8230;</p>
<p>Pfft.  Please.</p>
<blockquote><p>They don’t like immigration hardliners.</p></blockquote>
<p>And they outright hated Amnesty, so why they are going for McCain I dunno&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>They don’t consider Justices Clarence Thomas and Mssr. Scalia to be good models.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re starting to confuse &#8220;People to the right of you&#8221; with &#8220;People on the right&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>They think holding down massive donations to candidates is anti-bribery, not anti-’free-speech’.</p></blockquote>
<p>That would be because hey don&#8217;t understand the bill, which allows those exact same ads so long as they are PAC-funded, not GENERAL funded&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Go take ten years in the woods and come to the understanding that tax cuts and guerrilla wars are not ruby slippers that you can close your eyes, tap together three times, and solve the problems of your nation.</p></blockquote>
<p>But massive tax-hikes, free social programs for people who A) don&#8217;t pay into them and B)shouldn&#8217;t be here in the first place, coddling people who actively want to kill you, and who wants to give people not unlike AlGore massive say over our economy to stop &#8220;global warming&#8221;, THAT is the answer?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not entirely sure, but I really don&#8217;t think that sounded like republicans, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: glasnost</title>
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		<dc:creator>glasnost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How come GOP voters are so overwhelmingly rejecting the candidates that right wing bloggers like and picking the ones that they hate? Are these bloggers and commentators really that out of touch with even the GOP? wow.&lt;/i&gt;

Yep, they are. The vast majority of the conservative blogosphere has been engaged in an orgy of wild exaggeration, fatuous nitpicking, and malignant road-rage two-minute hatefests for the past seven years. And this is what it comes to, as it always does: self-destruction. John McCain doesn&#039;t suck up to them, tickle their egos, or follow their twisted priorities in entirety, so he might as well be the AntiChrist. Hey, conservative bloggers! The evidence is staring you in the face. Not even Republican voters have any faith in your baloney. They don&#039;t like immigration hardliners. They don&#039;t like the Bush tax cuts. They don&#039;t consider Justices Clarence Thomas and Mssr. Scalia to be good models. They think holding down massive donations to candidates is anti-bribery, not anti-&#039;free-speech&#039;. John McCain&#039;s popularity, even among Republicans, is that he&#039;s not a wild-eyed, spiteful, fulminating malcontent like yourselves.

John McCain thinks you&#039;re a bunch of morons, and republican voters agree with him. Go take ten years in the woods and come to the understanding that tax cuts and guerrilla wars are not ruby slippers that you can close your eyes, tap together three times, and solve the problems of your nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How come GOP voters are so overwhelmingly rejecting the candidates that right wing bloggers like and picking the ones that they hate? Are these bloggers and commentators really that out of touch with even the GOP? wow.</i></p>
<p>Yep, they are. The vast majority of the conservative blogosphere has been engaged in an orgy of wild exaggeration, fatuous nitpicking, and malignant road-rage two-minute hatefests for the past seven years. And this is what it comes to, as it always does: self-destruction. John McCain doesn&#8217;t suck up to them, tickle their egos, or follow their twisted priorities in entirety, so he might as well be the AntiChrist. Hey, conservative bloggers! The evidence is staring you in the face. Not even Republican voters have any faith in your baloney. They don&#8217;t like immigration hardliners. They don&#8217;t like the Bush tax cuts. They don&#8217;t consider Justices Clarence Thomas and Mssr. Scalia to be good models. They think holding down massive donations to candidates is anti-bribery, not anti-&#8217;free-speech&#8217;. John McCain&#8217;s popularity, even among Republicans, is that he&#8217;s not a wild-eyed, spiteful, fulminating malcontent like yourselves.</p>
<p>John McCain thinks you&#8217;re a bunch of morons, and republican voters agree with him. Go take ten years in the woods and come to the understanding that tax cuts and guerrilla wars are not ruby slippers that you can close your eyes, tap together three times, and solve the problems of your nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why do most of you republicans hate democracy?&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m not a Republican, Psyberian. I&#039;m more of an anti-Democrat, given what they&#039;ve been offering for the last decade or so. And I love the idea of democracy. I just wish it worked better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why do most of you republicans hate democracy?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not a Republican, Psyberian. I&#8217;m more of an anti-Democrat, given what they&#8217;ve been offering for the last decade or so. And I love the idea of democracy. I just wish it worked better.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Gee, your non-vote will surely scare the powers-that-be, you “principled conservatives”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
At least I will have managed to retain some amount of my principles...

Levi nailed it.

That he got me so perfectly bothers me to no end...  I&#039;m not sure they make water hot enough...  ;)

And Levi&#039;s answer to Psy was dead on, as well...

When McCain turns out to be at least as bad as Hillary, I want you all to remember these words:

&quot;Better the devil you know&quot;

At least Hillary is honest in her populism...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gee, your non-vote will surely scare the powers-that-be, you “principled conservatives”.</p></blockquote>
<p>At least I will have managed to retain some amount of my principles&#8230;</p>
<p>Levi nailed it.</p>
<p>That he got me so perfectly bothers me to no end&#8230;  I&#8217;m not sure they make water hot enough&#8230;  <img src='http://patterico.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And Levi&#8217;s answer to Psy was dead on, as well&#8230;</p>
<p>When McCain turns out to be at least as bad as Hillary, I want you all to remember these words:</p>
<p>&#8220;Better the devil you know&#8221;</p>
<p>At least Hillary is honest in her populism&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Blair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD, I don&#039;t know anyone who is happy at this situation.  Hillary Clinton is speaking in my hometown tomorrow, so maybe I am particularly exercised.

But thank you for your politeness.  Of course people can disagree with me---I am a college prof, and many, many students do!  You should see my evaluations.....

I just wish things were different on the political front.  

But I am really, really worried about November.  Maybe I just need to see how things sort out.   

Again, this is a polite crew, even when folks disagree---and I appreciate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD, I don&#8217;t know anyone who is happy at this situation.  Hillary Clinton is speaking in my hometown tomorrow, so maybe I am particularly exercised.</p>
<p>But thank you for your politeness.  Of course people can disagree with me&#8212;I am a college prof, and many, many students do!  You should see my evaluations&#8230;..</p>
<p>I just wish things were different on the political front.  </p>
<p>But I am really, really worried about November.  Maybe I just need to see how things sort out.   </p>
<p>Again, this is a polite crew, even when folks disagree&#8212;and I appreciate that.</p>
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		<title>By: Leviticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leviticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why do most of you republicans hate democracy?&quot;

- Psyberian

A lot of people hate &quot;democracy&quot;... James Madison and Alexander Hamilton weren&#039;t too fond of it, as I recall.

That&#039;s why the United States are a republic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why do most of you republicans hate democracy?&#8221;</p>
<p>- Psyberian</p>
<p>A lot of people hate &#8220;democracy&#8221;&#8230; James Madison and Alexander Hamilton weren&#8217;t too fond of it, as I recall.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the United States are a republic.</p>
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		<title>By: Leviticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leviticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A hundred million eligible voters will not vote at all in the general election, and they probably never have nor ever will. Gee, your non-vote will surely scare the powers-that-be, you “principled conservatives”.

- nk

On the other hand, a hundred million elibible voters &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; vote, making your individual vote equally meaningless.  I think Scott&#039;s line of thinking is that he&#039;d rather feel meaningless and principled than meaningless and whorish (as he&#039;d feel casting a ballot for McCain).

I dunno.  I have mixed feelings on this one...

... But while I&#039;m sorting them out, I&#039;ll vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A hundred million eligible voters will not vote at all in the general election, and they probably never have nor ever will. Gee, your non-vote will surely scare the powers-that-be, you “principled conservatives”.</p>
<p>- nk</p>
<p>On the other hand, a hundred million elibible voters <i>will</i> vote, making your individual vote equally meaningless.  I think Scott&#8217;s line of thinking is that he&#8217;d rather feel meaningless and principled than meaningless and whorish (as he&#8217;d feel casting a ballot for McCain).</p>
<p>I dunno.  I have mixed feelings on this one&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; But while I&#8217;m sorting them out, I&#8217;ll vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Pinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Pinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Not voting is a legitimate expression&lt;/i&gt;

Absolutely.  It also can be expressed very simply, without being &quot;childish, petulent, foolish, stupid, or any of those other things&quot; or it can be expressed in a sneering petulant manner that &quot;(c)all(s) people names in order to bring them around to your way of thinking (and)seems to be … counterproductive, at best.&quot;  If one does not wish to vote, or honestly feels that one can not in good conscience, then don&#039;t.  I believe my take on the situation was &quot;you do what you feel you have to do, and more power to you&quot;, and that was before bilge like &quot;If Jesus was backing Satan for office, it wouldn’t change the fact that it’s still Satan…&quot;

After that particular little craptastic hissy fit, I may have modified my tone somewhat.  It was not directed towards you, so I hope you didn&#039;t take any offense.  I&#039;m just weary of &lt;i&gt;soi dissant&lt;/i&gt; conservatives gleefully pissing on the best option currently available.  Reminds me of the Hollywood types who were all going to leave the country because their guy didn&#039;t get elected and does seem ... juvenile, at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not voting is a legitimate expression</i></p>
<p>Absolutely.  It also can be expressed very simply, without being &#8220;childish, petulent, foolish, stupid, or any of those other things&#8221; or it can be expressed in a sneering petulant manner that &#8220;(c)all(s) people names in order to bring them around to your way of thinking (and)seems to be … counterproductive, at best.&#8221;  If one does not wish to vote, or honestly feels that one can not in good conscience, then don&#8217;t.  I believe my take on the situation was &#8220;you do what you feel you have to do, and more power to you&#8221;, and that was before bilge like &#8220;If Jesus was backing Satan for office, it wouldn’t change the fact that it’s still Satan…&#8221;</p>
<p>After that particular little craptastic hissy fit, I may have modified my tone somewhat.  It was not directed towards you, so I hope you didn&#8217;t take any offense.  I&#8217;m just weary of <i>soi dissant</i> conservatives gleefully pissing on the best option currently available.  Reminds me of the Hollywood types who were all going to leave the country because their guy didn&#8217;t get elected and does seem &#8230; juvenile, at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Psyberian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psyberian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pablo (15), my grandfather was in politics and got out saying that you can’t be honest and a politician at the same time.  What he meant was, you have to lie to this constituency to get money, then lie to another constituency to get money ad nauseum.  

Money makes the process a joke.  The golden rule is: “whoever has the gold, makes the rules.”  It is not a democracy system, but a kangaroo aristocracy.  Now that’s elite.

Why do most of you republicans hate democracy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pablo (15), my grandfather was in politics and got out saying that you can’t be honest and a politician at the same time.  What he meant was, you have to lie to this constituency to get money, then lie to another constituency to get money ad nauseum.  </p>
<p>Money makes the process a joke.  The golden rule is: “whoever has the gold, makes the rules.”  It is not a democracy system, but a kangaroo aristocracy.  Now that’s elite.</p>
<p>Why do most of you republicans hate democracy?</p>
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