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	<title>Comments on: L.A. Times Refuses to Correct Phony Accusation Against Bush</title>
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	<description>Harangues that just make sense</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cmsmith</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/05/la-times-refuses-to-correct-phony-accusation-against-bush/#comment-317996</link>
		<dc:creator>cmsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The snide assertion - "...the underling who took the fall for him..." - with the statement attributed to Dick Cheney is bad enough to warrant a complaint, too.

And, as Karl Rove said of his "rap song", he was trapped in the position of either appearing a fool or a bad sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The snide assertion - &#8220;&#8230;the underling who took the fall for him&#8230;&#8221; - with the statement attributed to Dick Cheney is bad enough to warrant a complaint, too.</p>
<p>And, as Karl Rove said of his &#8220;rap song&#8221;, he was trapped in the position of either appearing a fool or a bad sport.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley J Fikes</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/05/la-times-refuses-to-correct-phony-accusation-against-bush/#comment-317955</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradley J Fikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zell should &lt;a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-zell0508feb05,0,2551216.story" rel="nofollow"&gt;stop cursing&lt;/a&gt; and start firing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zell should <a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-zell0508feb05,0,2551216.story" rel="nofollow">stop cursing</a> and start firing.</p>
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		<title>By: JRM</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/05/la-times-refuses-to-correct-phony-accusation-against-bush/#comment-317949</link>
		<dc:creator>JRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Sad, annoying story.

It was designed to be a humor piece, but when Dave Barry said he was not making things up, he was not making things up. This probably started as a good-faith error, and they just want to ignore the fact that it was error. That's not a good sign.

--JRM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Sad, annoying story.</p>
<p>It was designed to be a humor piece, but when Dave Barry said he was not making things up, he was not making things up. This probably started as a good-faith error, and they just want to ignore the fact that it was error. That&#8217;s not a good sign.</p>
<p>&#8211;JRM</p>
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		<title>By: Mike K</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/05/la-times-refuses-to-correct-phony-accusation-against-bush/#comment-317947</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zell has already &lt;a href="http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cubs21dec21,1,1477370.story" title="" rel="nofollow"&gt;opened the bazaar&lt;/a&gt; to sell off the Tribune assets. The Times can't be far behind. I could see an internet company picking them up for access to the archives for a search engine, sort of the way Ted Turner bought MGM's vaults for his movie channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zell has already <a href="http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cubs21dec21,1,1477370.story" title="" rel="nofollow">opened the bazaar</a> to sell off the Tribune assets. The Times can&#8217;t be far behind. I could see an internet company picking them up for access to the archives for a search engine, sort of the way Ted Turner bought MGM&#8217;s vaults for his movie channel.</p>
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		<title>By: NeoconNews.com</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/05/la-times-refuses-to-correct-phony-accusation-against-bush/#comment-317944</link>
		<dc:creator>NeoconNews.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we free to consider anything in the L.A. Times parody now? Good to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we free to consider anything in the L.A. Times parody now? Good to know.</p>
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		<title>By: aunursa</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/05/la-times-refuses-to-correct-phony-accusation-against-bush/#comment-317942</link>
		<dc:creator>aunursa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the eternal conundrums:

To whom do you go for help when you have a problem with an ombudsman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the eternal conundrums:</p>
<p>To whom do you go for help when you have a problem with an ombudsman?</p>
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		<title>By: Amphipolis</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/05/la-times-refuses-to-correct-phony-accusation-against-bush/#comment-317939</link>
		<dc:creator>Amphipolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They believe that what they print is true - true meaning that which most people believe, or should believe. What actually happened in the past is irrelevant, they are not sure if actuality even exists or can be determined.

There is a philosophical difference here. The reasons they do it don't make sense to you, but your harping on the actual doesn't make sense to them. In their world, they determine what is real, not you. That's what they do, that's what they have done without question for years - ask the guy on the street about the Tet Offensive and you will see what I mean. It's not about your idea of honesty because your honesty presupposes an absolute truth. People will honestly believe what they are told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They believe that what they print is true - true meaning that which most people believe, or should believe. What actually happened in the past is irrelevant, they are not sure if actuality even exists or can be determined.</p>
<p>There is a philosophical difference here. The reasons they do it don&#8217;t make sense to you, but your harping on the actual doesn&#8217;t make sense to them. In their world, they determine what is real, not you. That&#8217;s what they do, that&#8217;s what they have done without question for years - ask the guy on the street about the Tet Offensive and you will see what I mean. It&#8217;s not about your idea of honesty because your honesty presupposes an absolute truth. People will honestly believe what they are told.</p>
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		<title>By: AMac</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/05/la-times-refuses-to-correct-phony-accusation-against-bush/#comment-317936</link>
		<dc:creator>AMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last month, the &lt;i&gt;LAT&lt;/i&gt;'s ugly stepsister &lt;a href="http://www.poynter.org/forum/view_post.asp?id=13038" rel="nofollow"&gt;reassigned&lt;/a&gt; its Public Editor to other duties, correctly if silently acknowledging the worthlessness of the concept.

I read that Reader's Rep Jamie Gold's position is to be made redundant in the same manner.

Oh--actually, that last sentence was a palindrome.  Anything for a laugh!

Perhaps she has developed a taste for the &lt;a href="http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/turkey_roll/" rel="nofollow"&gt;turkey roll&lt;/a&gt; that Tim Blair serves with such gusto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last month, the <i>LAT</i>&#8217;s ugly stepsister <a href="http://www.poynter.org/forum/view_post.asp?id=13038" rel="nofollow">reassigned</a> its Public Editor to other duties, correctly if silently acknowledging the worthlessness of the concept.</p>
<p>I read that Reader&#8217;s Rep Jamie Gold&#8217;s position is to be made redundant in the same manner.</p>
<p>Oh&#8211;actually, that last sentence was a palindrome.  Anything for a laugh!</p>
<p>Perhaps she has developed a taste for the <a href="http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/turkey_roll/" rel="nofollow">turkey roll</a> that Tim Blair serves with such gusto.</p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/05/la-times-refuses-to-correct-phony-accusation-against-bush/#comment-317934</link>
		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can we contact the new owners?  Maybe they ought to be told if they can't bring themselves to fire the entire editorial staff, that they'd better start looking for a buyer of this molding turkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can we contact the new owners?  Maybe they ought to be told if they can&#8217;t bring themselves to fire the entire editorial staff, that they&#8217;d better start looking for a buyer of this molding turkey.</p>
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		<title>By: no one you know</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/02/05/la-times-refuses-to-correct-phony-accusation-against-bush/#comment-317932</link>
		<dc:creator>no one you know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So.  Obtuse arrogance it is, then. 

I hate liars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So.  Obtuse arrogance it is, then. </p>
<p>I hate liars.</p>
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