It just occurred to me that one of these jokers — Clinton, McCain, Obama or Romney — is going to be the next President.
Via Instapundit, who playfully calls the thought “horrifying.”
Indeed. (If I may borrow a phrase.)
But: you really want horrifying? We all pretty much know the Republican won’t win. So:
The next President is really going to be Clinton or Obama.
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While I would agree that at this time it seems most likely that a Democrat will be elected president, never underestimate their power to shoot themselves in the foot. Unless there is a third party candidate who siphons off a bunch of votes, I am not sure St. Hillary the Brilliant can be elected. It took Ross Perot to elect her husband and she lacks Bill’s charm. Obama is another matter.
Fritz (950ea2) — 1/25/2008 @ 7:50 amI’m voting for the next president — which will be a republican.
tired (8a07ee) — 1/25/2008 @ 7:52 amSo now that the looters and moochers will have full control of the government, where can one move?
gabriel (6d7447) — 1/25/2008 @ 8:05 amLet’s wait and see. I never bet on anything that eats.
Bar Sinister (eb65fa) — 1/25/2008 @ 8:07 amI want to say this is just horrible…but how long has it been since we’ve had an outstanding candidate? Could the word “outstanding” be used to describe Bush, Kerry, or Gore? None of the current Republican candidates are worse than what we currently have.
Mike (8e0e3b) — 1/25/2008 @ 8:13 amThere is 9+ months to the election….
Another Drew (f9dd2c) — 1/25/2008 @ 8:14 amAn eternity in the world of politics!
Why worry! We have survived 7 years of mediocre administration and prosperity in the 90s!
Hammy (4d1f3a) — 1/25/2008 @ 8:26 amPatterico, like the stock market, rumors and attitude seem to matter in politics (you know this MUCH better than I do). Remember 2000, when the MSM called Florida for Gore before voting had ended in the Florida Panhandle? Many, many Republicans apparently just decided to sit home. What was the point? Gore won, right?
Except it did matter, very much.
So while the Republicans aren’t handling things well (and I remember that Reagan’s people didn’t handle things well during his second administration), I am hopeful that the personal problems with both Clinton II (and her large economy sized finger waving albatross of a husband) and Obama (defending statements even more alarming than those made by McCain) will even the playing field in the coming election.
Unless, of course, the Bainbridge Brigade (and I mean no disrespect—while I do not agree with him, he is famous and successful as an academic and blogpundit) sits it out and gives us Clinton II or Obama.
Then we will get eight (and maybe sixteen) years of “…if only we had had a real conservative candidate…” while a new Supreme Court gets even more creative with emanations from the pneumbra of rights that Founding Fathers never dreamt of…for our own good, of course.
The Left knows what is best for all of us. It takes a village. Well, it actually takes the Undersecretary for Planning of the Steering Committee for Village Oversight, administered from Washington.
Sigh. Still, even if you are right, PLEASE, can we at least all go vote? We will have at least tried. And who knows? We might actually win.
Eric Blair (2708f4) — 1/25/2008 @ 8:30 amWhy all the pessimism? Romney may not turn out to be a great president, but I think he’ll be pretty good, maybe even very good.
Banjo (b5278d) — 1/25/2008 @ 8:38 amEven a mediocre candidate sounds great after 8 years of Curious George.
Leviticus (b987b0) — 1/25/2008 @ 8:59 amMeanwhile, McCain hires the pro-IL-legal, open borders proponent, Juan Hernandez, as his Hispanic Outreach coordinator. If no one knows about Hernandez, he makes Geraldo Rivera look like a KKK member. He served on the cabinet of Vicente Fox, who we all know is no friend to the U.S.
Hernandez has been on McCain’s staff since November, 2007 all the while McCain has been telling us that he is strong on the border. Right! What is next? Gift bags to the illegals as they exit the Rio Grande on the Texas side of the border?
retire05 (f7c478) — 1/25/2008 @ 9:03 amI think investors agree and that’s part of why the stock market has been so volatile recently.
DRJ (517d26) — 1/25/2008 @ 9:04 amYou are absalutely right we should be scared! We should be scared to think that the American people have been led to believe that there are only 2 candidates in this race and they are falling for it. Thank the media for this one! I however will be casting my vote for John Edwards at least I will know I tried to elect someone who really wanted change.
Jennifer (190f9e) — 1/25/2008 @ 9:12 amhahaha, you actually blame current economy problems on Clinton and Obama? What a dumbass.
minnesotan (9e20f0) — 1/25/2008 @ 9:14 amPLEASE, can we at least all go vote? We will have at least tried. And who knows? We might actually win.
Comment by Eric Blair — 1/25/2008 @ 8:30 am
Amen to that. I live in a blue state but vote in every single election, because I firmly believe one of these days juuuussst enough liberals are going to get lazy and cocky and stay home, and juuuussst enough conservatives are going to take the trouble to vote and bam! We’ll win.
Plus, today’s dogcatcher becomes a senator 10 years from now. Every election matters.
Besides, voting is a civic duty and a great privilege. I shake my head in bewilderment at the low voter turnout in every election.
no one you know (1f5ddb) — 1/25/2008 @ 9:16 amMinnesotan,
Do you invest in the stock market?
DRJ (517d26) — 1/25/2008 @ 9:17 am“Gift bags to the illegals as they exit the Rio Grande on the Texas side of the border?”
-retire05
You know what we oughta give the scum? A gift bag of bullets (and by gift bag I mean “full clip”).
Leviticus (e87aad) — 1/25/2008 @ 9:18 amLeviticus, nice try.
SPQR (26be8b) — 1/25/2008 @ 9:42 am“But: you really want horrifying? We all pretty much know the Republican won’t win. So:
The next President is really going to be Clinton or Obama.”
They all seem like different levels of Democrat to me. Having an Obama doesn’t really scare me any more than having a McCain. Except that McCain would besmirch Conservatism, and Obama wouldn’t.
Dare I say I might not vote? I said it in 2006, and I voted anyway, so who knows.
Kevin (4890ef) — 1/25/2008 @ 10:12 amCrap. There is no evidence that McCain has ever shirked his duty or that he ever will. He will do what he thinks is best for his country. Just as the Shrub, with all his *faults*, is doing. Do I want a President just like myself? You bet. If I could only go about getting myself elected.
nk (eeb240) — 1/25/2008 @ 10:23 amI agree, NK, but primaries are where partisan voters get to pick those who best represent their views. I would probably vote for McCain in the general election against Hillary but I know our views are too far apart for him to win my vote in the primary.
DRJ (517d26) — 1/25/2008 @ 10:33 amJust to annoy Patterico: There is no evidence that Giuliani has ever acted out of duty and not of pure self-aggrandizment and self-indulgent whimsy.
nk (eeb240) — 1/25/2008 @ 10:49 amS&P 500 under Clinton, up over 200 percent. Under Bush to date, up less than one percent. Why would the stock market be unhappy about Clinton?
On the other hand, we have the subprime mess, the failed attempt to use home equity for liquidity absorbed by huge deficits, the damage of cutting taxes at the wrong time leaving nothing for the pump to prime, etc. All sorts of land mines remained scattered in the path of banks, mortgage holders, bond insurers, etc. Does anyone really think that Wall Street is falling because it shares the right wing’s terror of the Clagina?
And yes, I invest in the stock market. In fact, I work in the field.
Andrew J. Lazarus (7d46f9) — 1/25/2008 @ 12:26 pmWhat AJL convieniently glosses over, is that the Market tanked in almost exact conjunction with the Clinton Justice Dept case against MicroSoft, and we’ve been trying to recover since that time (particularly the S&P, and NASDAQ). Eight years of growth in the S&P at over 200% is an anomoly historically (AJL, you know better than that).
Another Drew (f9dd2c) — 1/25/2008 @ 12:37 pmAJL,
Then you know the market factors in more than what’s happening now, it also reacts to what it thinks will happen in the future. A Democratic (probably Clinton) win means there will likely be a Democratic President and Congress. That means there will probably be nationalized health care, the elimination of the tax cuts, and an overall increase in entitlements.
That is clearly not the sole cause of market volatility but I think it contributes to it.
DRJ (8b9d41) — 1/25/2008 @ 12:54 pmThe only person I see who could make enough of a run to matter is Bloomberg, and I suspect he’d take more support from Hillary than from any of the likely Republican candidates. Come on, Bloomie!
Pablo (99243e) — 1/25/2008 @ 1:03 pmInclude me out of that “we”. The betters at InTrade are, right now, giving the Republicans a better than 35 percent chance to win the presidency this November.
And why would the betters think that? Because, for instance, John McCain is, right now, running about even with Clinton and Obama in the polls. And the two Democratic contenders haven’t finished beating each other up.
And because, for instance, it is hard to think of anyone who could unite the Republican party better than the likely Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton.
Moreover, most of the third party candidates are more likely to take votes from the Democrat than the Republican.
I’m not saying that a Democratic candidate isn’t the favorite; I’m just saying that they are not the prohibitive favorite. The odds right now are about two to one, and there are many months until the election. It ain’t over. In fact, the fat lady hasn’t even entered the hall.
Jim Miller (10bbfb) — 1/25/2008 @ 4:08 pmExcuse me?
If Bloomberg runs, I can’t see any Democrat winning, no matter how dispirited the Republicans are.
If Clinton runs, I can’t see her winning because the Republicans will set records at the polls.
Granted, there’s not likely to be all that much excitement for Mitt Romney (Eddie Haskell grown up, for crying out loud…), but please, don’t go pretending the die is cast already.
Plumb Bob (c0e659) — 1/25/2008 @ 4:09 pmI suppose it is a sort of knee jerk for some of the right wing idealogs that comment here to work themselves up into a froth and go into hystrionics over a Dem winning but won’t that just mean that for a few years a different set of cronies and toadies gets all the sweet contracts and makes a little more money than the current set of cronies and toadies currently feeding off the the Bush admin? There isn’t going to be some sort of social sea change in this country, even if a Clinton white house manages to get our deficit under control or an Obama white house helps us all to “just get along” again.
EdWood (9f0c0f) — 1/26/2008 @ 9:06 amEveryone that I know that’s actually out of college and making thier own money loves money and buying things way too much for the country to suddenly turn into some EU socialist state. That bit of hysterical froth is just too hard to swallow. A solid recession during a Clinton or Obama presidency will hand the white house right back to the Reps 4 years later and they can go back to spending every dime the country doesnt have while they natter on about free markets and the evils of rampant government spending blah blah blah.
Re: #29. I have heard this argument many times. I understand it, but there will be a cost during those four years, even if you are correct.
And the Supreme Court appointments—perhaps as many as three of them—with a Democratic Congress?
Those four years to teach us some kind of intellectual purity might be MUCH more expensive than folks who want to sit out the coming election might imagine.
The Bainbridge Brigade, I suspect, just want the right to complain about the next four years—if only we had all believed as they did! But the cost will be much higher than they think, I suspect.
Eric Blair (839cfb) — 1/26/2008 @ 11:01 amRight, but it doesn’t happen suddenly, does it? It happens a little bit at a time, one program after another. It’s been evolving for 70+ years.
Steverino (af57bc) — 1/26/2008 @ 12:03 pmTHE MOST SCARY THING TO HAPPEN IS TO HAVE HOLLARY OR OBAMA IN THE WHITEHOUSE
krazy kagu (ef58e5) — 1/26/2008 @ 1:25 pm