Comments on: Fred Thompson Exits Stage Right http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/ Harangues that just make sense Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:03:21 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Verlin Martin http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/comment-page-1/#comment-315744 Verlin Martin Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:28:15 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/#comment-315744 According to you, the people that sit out, voted for the winner... so that means they can complain too right? :) I don't for a second believe huck or paul will be the democraticrepublican nominee According to you, the people that sit out, voted for the winner… so that means they can complain too right?

:)

I don’t for a second believe huck or paul will be the democraticrepublican nominee

]]> By: Eric Blair http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/comment-page-1/#comment-315729 Eric Blair Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:37:01 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/#comment-315729 What a nightmare scenario, Mr. Martin. Fortunately, I don't believe we have to worry about that. I guess the thing that bugs me are the people who "sit things out" and then feel that they still can complain. Voters get to complain---some would say it is their only perk. What a nightmare scenario, Mr. Martin. Fortunately, I don’t believe we have to worry about that. I guess the thing that bugs me are the people who “sit things out” and then feel that they still can complain. Voters get to complain—some would say it is their only perk.

]]> By: Verlin Martin http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/comment-page-1/#comment-315721 Verlin Martin Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:28:19 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/#comment-315721 I don't plan on sitting out. If it's Huckabee or Ron Paul, I WILL vote on the Democratic ticket. :) As long as I'm going to get it in the end, at least my enemy should be doing it. I don’t plan on sitting out. If it’s Huckabee or Ron Paul, I WILL vote on the Democratic ticket. :)

As long as I’m going to get it in the end, at least my enemy should be doing it.

]]> By: Eric Blair http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/comment-page-1/#comment-315698 Eric Blair Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:03:17 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/#comment-315698 You are very polite, Mr. Martin. Thank you. But the fact remains: if you don't vote for the Republican nominee for President in November, you <i>are</i> voting for the Democratic nominee. Who will be Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. My parents felt the way you did in 1992, and voted for Ross Perot. That made Bill Clinton possible, and his wife now. All I am saying is that <i>no one</i> is a perfect candidate. Agitate, fight, carry on to make sure the Republican candidates properly represent as much of your agenda as possible. But if you sit it out, you are v<i>oting for the Democratic ticket</i>. This doesn't bother many conservatives, including Professor Bainbridge, who is much smarter and more successful than lowly me. But...anything that makes Hillary Clinton and the DNC smile makes me worry. In the voting booth, everyone makes their own choices. My parents are very sorry about 1992. I hope that the base will not be sorry in 2008. Especially with the Supreme Court they will get for literally decades. Again, thank you for the polite discourse. I know how you feel. But to me, the alternative is far, far worse. The benchmark, again, is simple: will it make Hillary Clinton smirk at what I am planning to do? Does she agree with my plan of action? YMMV, as always. You are very polite, Mr. Martin. Thank you. But the fact remains: if you don’t vote for the Republican nominee for President in November, you are voting for the Democratic nominee. Who will be Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

My parents felt the way you did in 1992, and voted for Ross Perot. That made Bill Clinton possible, and his wife now.

All I am saying is that no one is a perfect candidate. Agitate, fight, carry on to make sure the Republican candidates properly represent as much of your agenda as possible.

But if you sit it out, you are voting for the Democratic ticket. This doesn’t bother many conservatives, including Professor Bainbridge, who is much smarter and more successful than lowly me. But…anything that makes Hillary Clinton and the DNC smile makes me worry.

In the voting booth, everyone makes their own choices. My parents are very sorry about 1992. I hope that the base will not be sorry in 2008. Especially with the Supreme Court they will get for literally decades.

Again, thank you for the polite discourse. I know how you feel. But to me, the alternative is far, far worse. The benchmark, again, is simple: will it make Hillary Clinton smirk at what I am planning to do? Does she agree with my plan of action?

YMMV, as always.

]]> By: Verlin Martin http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/comment-page-1/#comment-315694 Verlin Martin Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:34:09 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/#comment-315694 Eric Blair: The reason the 'sitting' out strat seems so popular is the fact that each time the conservatives hold their nose and vote for the lesser of the 2 evils, the Republicans DO.NOT.LEARN. and continue to veer left. So when the next election runs up, people say they will sit out, people like you (no offense) scream, don't do it or THEY will win!!!@one11... and then we don't and we win, only to get @#%DE@ by someone with a R by their name instead of a D. Since the R's keep winning (not counting '06) with the 'you can't live without us' strategy, they never change to a more conservative, fiscal party (like they were) and they are not likely to change as long as they keep winning (or even getting close). The only way (it seems) that the Republican party is going to win back the conservative vote is with a wholesale a-- whipping :) jvw: "I believe that some of the speculation is that Fred is going to endorse McCain now that he is out of the race. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds." Won't happen. Fred knows what his followers feel about amnesty, even if he likes the man. Eric Blair: The reason the ’sitting’ out strat seems so popular is the fact that each time the conservatives hold their nose and vote for the lesser of the 2 evils, the Republicans DO.NOT.LEARN. and continue to veer left.

So when the next election runs up, people say they will sit out, people like you (no offense) scream, don’t do it or THEY will win!!!@one11… and then we don’t and we win, only to get @#%DE@ by someone with a R by their name instead of a D.

Since the R’s keep winning (not counting ‘06) with the ‘you can’t live without us’ strategy, they never change to a more conservative, fiscal party (like they were) and they are not likely to change as long as they keep winning (or even getting close).

The only way (it seems) that the Republican party is going to win back the conservative vote is with a wholesale a– whipping :)

jvw: “I believe that some of the speculation is that Fred is going to endorse McCain now that he is out of the race. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.”

Won’t happen. Fred knows what his followers feel about amnesty, even if he likes the man.

]]> By: Eric Blair http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/comment-page-1/#comment-315691 Eric Blair Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:19:46 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/#comment-315691 Dear Bar Sinister: I agree with you wholeheartedly. There is a person who posts here from time to time who seems very superior about politics, and highly judgmental and opinionated. Yet he <i>brags</i> about not voting, as if it is some kind of badge of honor. Every time he does not vote, he actually votes for the winner. And considering his politics, the last eight years have been hellish indeed for him. Dear Bar Sinister: I agree with you wholeheartedly. There is a person who posts here from time to time who seems very superior about politics, and highly judgmental and opinionated. Yet he brags about not voting, as if it is some kind of badge of honor.

Every time he does not vote, he actually votes for the winner. And considering his politics, the last eight years have been hellish indeed for him.

]]> By: Bar Sinister http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/comment-page-1/#comment-315689 Bar Sinister Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:13:26 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/#comment-315689 As far as I am concerned, if I dont vote; I forfit the right to complain about the results. Those who can vote and decide not to cannot expect others to credit their opinions. As far as I am concerned, if I dont vote; I forfit the right to complain about the results. Those who can vote and decide not to cannot expect others to credit their opinions.

]]> By: Eric Blair http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/comment-page-1/#comment-315677 Eric Blair Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:07:51 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/#comment-315677 Nice to see some thought given to the "sitting out" strategy. My fear is that a lot of people will give it a try. <i>Sixteen years of Clinton control, friends</i>. And it would be ironic if it happened each time because of <b>Republicans</b> "sitting things out." Patterico, I'm curious what you think of Professor Bainbridge's argument, that we should sit out the 2008 election---it's on his website, virtuous and simon-pure. Me, it just gives me shivers. And if McCain gets the nod, a lot of the talk-radio crowd seem ready to turn things over to the Democrats. Santayana was more right than I ever knew. Nice to see some thought given to the “sitting out” strategy. My fear is that a lot of people will give it a try. Sixteen years of Clinton control, friends. And it would be ironic if it happened each time because of Republicans “sitting things out.”

Patterico, I’m curious what you think of Professor Bainbridge’s argument, that we should sit out the 2008 election—it’s on his website, virtuous and simon-pure. Me, it just gives me shivers. And if McCain gets the nod, a lot of the talk-radio crowd seem ready to turn things over to the Democrats.

Santayana was more right than I ever knew.

]]> By: Mike K http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/comment-page-1/#comment-315676 Mike K Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:45:50 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/#comment-315676 Thompson's campaign was the only reason I was hesitant about his prospects. He was the best candidate but with the worst campaign. I had the same reservations with Barry Goldwater. His inability to respond to Johnson's dishonest attacks made me doubt his ability to govern. I actually voted for Johnson, a mistake I won't make again. Thompson’s campaign was the only reason I was hesitant about his prospects. He was the best candidate but with the worst campaign. I had the same reservations with Barry Goldwater. His inability to respond to Johnson’s dishonest attacks made me doubt his ability to govern. I actually voted for Johnson, a mistake I won’t make again.

]]> By: Old Coot http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/comment-page-1/#comment-315674 Old Coot Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:12:10 +0000 http://patterico.com/2008/01/22/fred-thompson-exits-stage-right/#comment-315674 If I needed a reminder of why I regularly visit this site, the last ~dozen comments serve the purpose. If I needed a reminder of why I regularly visit this site, the last ~dozen comments serve the purpose.

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