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		<title>By: Another Drew</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/01/10/fred-talks-to-bloggers/#comment-313757</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red State banned Christoph?

I guess we're stuck with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red State banned Christoph?</p>
<p>I guess we&#8217;re stuck with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Murphy</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/01/10/fred-talks-to-bloggers/#comment-313719</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred's biggest problem is that many people say things like "If Fred had a chance of winning, he'd get my vote."  Of course, if he shows any chance of winning he could turn that into a surprise....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred&#8217;s biggest problem is that many people say things like &#8220;If Fred had a chance of winning, he&#8217;d get my vote.&#8221;  Of course, if he shows any chance of winning he could turn that into a surprise&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/01/10/fred-talks-to-bloggers/#comment-313611</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;"Why the Morons Who Run Red State Are a Bunch of Jackasses and I Won't Bother to Comment There Nor Even Read There Again"&lt;/b&gt;

Short and sweet. Less than a week after signing up to comment, I was banned. Why? The only conceivable reason is their policy against not letting anyone new to comment who supports Ron Paul.

But here's the thing. I don't support Ron Paul.

Proof? &lt;a href="http://www.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/debate_winners" rel="nofollow"&gt;The very Red State comment thread on the South Carolina Republican debate&lt;/a&gt; that caused me to get banned. Here's what I said in comment #288:

&lt;blockquote&gt;"... Brit Hume blew it, aside from &lt;b&gt;not asking Paul about his &lt;i&gt;racist newsletters.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;"&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And later, comment #292:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Surprise Debate Winner Based on Actual Voting Data

Clearly Ron Paul won the debate... &lt;a href="http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=919963&#38;postcount=2" rel="nofollow"&gt;based on Fox News text voting.&lt;/a&gt;

Exit question: How'd that happen?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I threw in the exit question to provoke thought and humor about the Ronbots and "Romulans" furiously texting away to skew the results. But do the idiots who run Red State get the humor or even ask a question before Stalinesquely purging me? Hardly.

I was so not surprised to be banned -- because they have a reputation for being a closed shop and are no friends of free speech (not even in this case, seemingly, where my position is in agreement with &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; position... which is why I refer to them as &lt;i&gt;morons).&lt;/i&gt;

Well, I ask rhetorically, what more would I expect of a site co-founded by plagiarist Ben Domenech, who is a blog poster on the site to this day?

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Cross posted at various places out of frustration to get my point across. They gave me no warning, nor even an email, and I certainly won't waste my time begging them for posting privileges so I can agree with them and get banned for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;Why the Morons Who Run Red State Are a Bunch of Jackasses and I Won&#8217;t Bother to Comment There Nor Even Read There Again&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Short and sweet. Less than a week after signing up to comment, I was banned. Why? The only conceivable reason is their policy against not letting anyone new to comment who supports Ron Paul.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the thing. I don&#8217;t support Ron Paul.</p>
<p>Proof? <a href="http://www.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/debate_winners" rel="nofollow">The very Red State comment thread on the South Carolina Republican debate</a> that caused me to get banned. Here&#8217;s what I said in comment #288:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230; Brit Hume blew it, aside from <b>not asking Paul about his <i>racist newsletters.</i></b>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>And later, comment #292:</p>
<blockquote><p>Surprise Debate Winner Based on Actual Voting Data</p>
<p>Clearly Ron Paul won the debate&#8230; <a href="http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=919963&amp;postcount=2" rel="nofollow">based on Fox News text voting.</a></p>
<p>Exit question: How&#8217;d that happen?</p></blockquote>
<p>I threw in the exit question to provoke thought and humor about the Ronbots and &#8220;Romulans&#8221; furiously texting away to skew the results. But do the idiots who run Red State get the humor or even ask a question before Stalinesquely purging me? Hardly.</p>
<p>I was so not surprised to be banned &#8212; because they have a reputation for being a closed shop and are no friends of free speech (not even in this case, seemingly, where my position is in agreement with <i>their</i> position&#8230; which is why I refer to them as <i>morons).</i></p>
<p>Well, I ask rhetorically, what more would I expect of a site co-founded by plagiarist Ben Domenech, who is a blog poster on the site to this day?</p>
<p>- - -<br />
Cross posted at various places out of frustration to get my point across. They gave me no warning, nor even an email, and I certainly won&#8217;t waste my time begging them for posting privileges so I can agree with them and get banned for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/01/10/fred-talks-to-bloggers/#comment-313610</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paulbots, Christoph. Paulbots. 

And Ronulans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulbots, Christoph. Paulbots. </p>
<p>And Ronulans.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/01/10/fred-talks-to-bloggers/#comment-313609</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;did you hear? McCain thinks Saddam killed Thomas Jefferson!&lt;/blockquote&gt;And Jefferson isn't even dead! Oh, wait a minute. 

I caught that too, and couldn't help thinking the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>did you hear? McCain thinks Saddam killed Thomas Jefferson!</p></blockquote>
<p>And Jefferson isn&#8217;t even dead! Oh, wait a minute. </p>
<p>I caught that too, and couldn&#8217;t help thinking the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/01/10/fred-talks-to-bloggers/#comment-313608</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly Ron Paul won the debate... &lt;a href="http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=919963&#38;postcount=2" rel="nofollow"&gt;based on Fox News text voting.&lt;/a&gt;

Exit question: How'd that happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly Ron Paul won the debate&#8230; <a href="http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=919963&amp;postcount=2" rel="nofollow">based on Fox News text voting.</a></p>
<p>Exit question: How&#8217;d that happen?</p>
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		<title>By: assistant devil's advocate</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/01/10/fred-talks-to-bloggers/#comment-313607</link>
		<dc:creator>assistant devil's advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fred has no chance.  voters can't distinguish candidate fred from the sourpuss on &lt;i&gt;law and order&lt;/i&gt;.  if the republicans wanted to run an actor this time, they should have run clint eastwood.  a moderate republican, mayoral experience, well-liked and a much greater filmography than fred, he would have attracted a lot of votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fred has no chance.  voters can&#8217;t distinguish candidate fred from the sourpuss on <i>law and order</i>.  if the republicans wanted to run an actor this time, they should have run clint eastwood.  a moderate republican, mayoral experience, well-liked and a much greater filmography than fred, he would have attracted a lot of votes.</p>
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		<title>By: chas</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/01/10/fred-talks-to-bloggers/#comment-313584</link>
		<dc:creator>chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just dont think so chris, they werent that good of friends back when fred! was in the senate. but if that does seem to be the scenario at some point and fred! drops out i'll be demanding a refund!

he may be laying off mccain figuring the conservatives in SC will start to remember just what mccain has done and realize he is no friend of the GOP while he does need to attack huck since SC voters may not be as aware of the true huch as they are of the true mccain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just dont think so chris, they werent that good of friends back when fred! was in the senate. but if that does seem to be the scenario at some point and fred! drops out i&#8217;ll be demanding a refund!</p>
<p>he may be laying off mccain figuring the conservatives in SC will start to remember just what mccain has done and realize he is no friend of the GOP while he does need to attack huck since SC voters may not be as aware of the true huch as they are of the true mccain.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/01/10/fred-talks-to-bloggers/#comment-313580</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MWY3MDlhOWFhNDViODJhZjNiMjQzMDMwYzM0NDMyMzc=" rel="nofollow"&gt;More on the Thompson as stalking horse theory.&lt;/a&gt;

Sorry Pat and other Fred heads... I think your guy is trying to help my guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MWY3MDlhOWFhNDViODJhZjNiMjQzMDMwYzM0NDMyMzc=" rel="nofollow">More on the Thompson as stalking horse theory.</a></p>
<p>Sorry Pat and other Fred heads&#8230; I think your guy is trying to help my guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2008/01/10/fred-talks-to-bloggers/#comment-313574</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;"Let’s see if he’s right in South Carolina."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The problem with that may be as Allahpundit pointed out: McCain's now ahead in South Carolina, not Huckabee. So by laying into Huckabee so much, Fred helps McCain... playing into the theory I half believe that Fred is McCain's stalking horse, and is getting more serious and motivated now that his buddy McCain is within striking distance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Let’s see if he’s right in South Carolina.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem with that may be as Allahpundit pointed out: McCain&#8217;s now ahead in South Carolina, not Huckabee. So by laying into Huckabee so much, Fred helps McCain&#8230; playing into the theory I half believe that Fred is McCain&#8217;s stalking horse, and is getting more serious and motivated now that his buddy McCain is within striking distance.</p>
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