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	<title>Comments on: Helen Thomas: Bloggers Don&#8217;t Have the Standards and Ethics of Big Media Reporters</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Can’t you articulate any point without cursing, name calling or denigrating others?&lt;/i&gt;

Show me where I&#039;ve cursed anywhere on this thread, I&#039;ve alreasdy explained the &quot;name-calling&quot; and I didn&#039;t &quot;denigrate&quot; anyone here. Actions yes, but not people. I&#039;ve only been warned once by Patterico on this site, for repeatedly calling someone an idiot who was so obtuse that he deserved banning. That over a year ago.

If you are going to lie and distort what I write, don&#039;t make it so easy to refute.

&lt;i&gt;He simply cannot name a site that he claims is the paragon of good ethics and I don’t expect he will.&lt;blockquote&gt;most traffic, the most blogroll apprearnces, the ones that day after day deliver the goods are the ones that meet such standards&lt;/blockquote&gt;is not a definition of the elements and standards defined earlier which is what I asked him to do.&lt;/i&gt;

How about looking at my comment in context?&lt;blockquote&gt;The blogs on the right with the most traffic, the most blogroll apprearnces, the ones that day after day deliver the goods are the ones that meet such standards. You see, those that don’t take a beating from their peers…and comprise a “Gotcha!” moment for froth-mouthed lefties that can’t win idealogical debates with those bloggers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Interesting...our host (who makes the list)&lt;a href=&quot;http://patterico.com/2008/01/07/helen-thomas-vindicated-again/&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;already has an example of what I am talking about.&lt;/a&gt;

As you the list you demand, here&#039;s a starter list, by no means complete:

Ace of Spades
Beldar Blog
Betsy’s Page
Big Lizards
Blackfive
Captain’s Quarters
Day by Day
Hugh Hewitt
InstaPundit
Junkyard Blog
Little Green Footballs
Michelle Malkin
Power Line
Protein Wisdom
Sound Politics
TigerHawk
Tim Blair
VodkaPundit

&lt;i&gt;He simply cannot name a site that he claims is the paragon of good ethics and I don’t expect he will.&lt;/i&gt;

So VOR, how does it feeel to be &lt;b&gt;wrong about me yet again?&lt;/b&gt; Hmn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Can’t you articulate any point without cursing, name calling or denigrating others?</i></p>
<p>Show me where I&#8217;ve cursed anywhere on this thread, I&#8217;ve alreasdy explained the &#8220;name-calling&#8221; and I didn&#8217;t &#8220;denigrate&#8221; anyone here. Actions yes, but not people. I&#8217;ve only been warned once by Patterico on this site, for repeatedly calling someone an idiot who was so obtuse that he deserved banning. That over a year ago.</p>
<p>If you are going to lie and distort what I write, don&#8217;t make it so easy to refute.</p>
<p><i>He simply cannot name a site that he claims is the paragon of good ethics and I don’t expect he will.<br />
<blockquote>most traffic, the most blogroll apprearnces, the ones that day after day deliver the goods are the ones that meet such standards</p></blockquote>
<p>is not a definition of the elements and standards defined earlier which is what I asked him to do.</i></p>
<p>How about looking at my comment in context?<br />
<blockquote>The blogs on the right with the most traffic, the most blogroll apprearnces, the ones that day after day deliver the goods are the ones that meet such standards. You see, those that don’t take a beating from their peers…and comprise a “Gotcha!” moment for froth-mouthed lefties that can’t win idealogical debates with those bloggers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting&#8230;our host (who makes the list)<a href="http://patterico.com/2008/01/07/helen-thomas-vindicated-again/" title="" rel="nofollow">already has an example of what I am talking about.</a></p>
<p>As you the list you demand, here&#8217;s a starter list, by no means complete:</p>
<p>Ace of Spades<br />
Beldar Blog<br />
Betsy’s Page<br />
Big Lizards<br />
Blackfive<br />
Captain’s Quarters<br />
Day by Day<br />
Hugh Hewitt<br />
InstaPundit<br />
Junkyard Blog<br />
Little Green Footballs<br />
Michelle Malkin<br />
Power Line<br />
Protein Wisdom<br />
Sound Politics<br />
TigerHawk<br />
Tim Blair<br />
VodkaPundit</p>
<p><i>He simply cannot name a site that he claims is the paragon of good ethics and I don’t expect he will.</i></p>
<p>So VOR, how does it feeel to be <b>wrong about me yet again?</b> Hmn?</p>
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		<title>By: Patterico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patterico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My apologies, Patterico.&lt;/i&gt;

I was talking to Banjo, whose comment could be interpreted as, well, not exactly a threat of violence, but a reference to violence.  I don&#039;t want to edge close to that line, even if it&#039;s metaphorical, which I think it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My apologies, Patterico.</i></p>
<p>I was talking to Banjo, whose comment could be interpreted as, well, not exactly a threat of violence, but a reference to violence.  I don&#8217;t want to edge close to that line, even if it&#8217;s metaphorical, which I think it was.</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What lack of respect - she would be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What lack of respect &#8211; she would be happy.</p>
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		<title>By: voiceofreason</title>
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		<dc:creator>voiceofreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daleyrocks,

He simply cannot name a site that he claims is the paragon of good ethics and I don&#039;t expect he will.

&lt;blockquote&gt;most traffic, the most blogroll apprearnces, the ones that day after day deliver the goods are the ones that meet such standards&lt;/blockquote&gt;

is not a definition of the elements and standards defined earlier which is what I asked him to do.

I am a little disappointed at your lack of respect for the elderly re your comment about Helen Thomas in #37.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daleyrocks,</p>
<p>He simply cannot name a site that he claims is the paragon of good ethics and I don&#8217;t expect he will.</p>
<blockquote><p>most traffic, the most blogroll apprearnces, the ones that day after day deliver the goods are the ones that meet such standards</p></blockquote>
<p>is not a definition of the elements and standards defined earlier which is what I asked him to do.</p>
<p>I am a little disappointed at your lack of respect for the elderly re your comment about Helen Thomas in #37.</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leviticus, well actually if you had listened to some of Helen Thomas&#039; comments during the Israel-Hezbollah comment you would not have heard &lt;i&gt;dissent&lt;/i&gt; but rather Hezbollah propaganda regurgitated.  But thanks for the &quot;stupid&quot; comment.  I&#039;ll treasure it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leviticus, well actually if you had listened to some of Helen Thomas&#8217; comments during the Israel-Hezbollah comment you would not have heard <i>dissent</i> but rather Hezbollah propaganda regurgitated.  But thanks for the &#8220;stupid&#8221; comment.  I&#8217;ll treasure it.</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VOR - Paul made his point very well, more than once.  You are refusing to listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VOR &#8211; Paul made his point very well, more than once.  You are refusing to listen.</p>
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		<title>By: voiceofreason</title>
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		<dc:creator>voiceofreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Can&#039;t you articulate any point without cursing, name calling or denigrating others?
I&#039;m still waiting for you to name the sites that fit the critieria mentioned earlier. The fact is you can&#039;t and sound like a truther in your reply &quot;Just look at the sites on your right&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you articulate any point without cursing, name calling or denigrating others?<br />
I&#8217;m still waiting for you to name the sites that fit the critieria mentioned earlier. The fact is you can&#8217;t and sound like a truther in your reply &#8220;Just look at the sites on your right&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be nice to strap Helen in one of those electric carts you see in supermarkets.  Give her a big bucket of coins, hang a drool cup around her neck and let her loose in front of a long row of slot machines with a bunch of blue haired ladies.  Hog heaven in more ways than one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be nice to strap Helen in one of those electric carts you see in supermarkets.  Give her a big bucket of coins, hang a drool cup around her neck and let her loose in front of a long row of slot machines with a bunch of blue haired ladies.  Hog heaven in more ways than one.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’d hate to think there were people so stupid that they correlated an opposing viewpoint with terrorist sympathies. &lt;/i&gt;

This from a commenter who makes &lt;a href=&quot;http://patterico.com/2008/01/04/beldar-on-iowa/#comment-312414&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;moral equivalence between a quarantine and a concentration camp&lt;/a&gt;. Who argues that New Mexico has no illegal immigration problem while Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/12/newmexico/index.html&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;declares a state of emergency&lt;/a&gt;. Who implies Michelle Malkin is a bigot towards immigrants in her book &lt;i&gt;Invasion&lt;/i&gt; despite the fact she states on page xiv of the introduction that her legal immigrant parents were the inspiration for the book.

&lt;i&gt;Sure takes the fun out of pointing to similar behavior on intellectual shitholes like Hot Air, HuffPo, or LGF.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s really a shame, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’d hate to think there were people so stupid that they correlated an opposing viewpoint with terrorist sympathies. </i></p>
<p>This from a commenter who makes <a href="http://patterico.com/2008/01/04/beldar-on-iowa/#comment-312414" title="" rel="nofollow">moral equivalence between a quarantine and a concentration camp</a>. Who argues that New Mexico has no illegal immigration problem while Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/12/newmexico/index.html" title="" rel="nofollow">declares a state of emergency</a>. Who implies Michelle Malkin is a bigot towards immigrants in her book <i>Invasion</i> despite the fact she states on page xiv of the introduction that her legal immigrant parents were the inspiration for the book.</p>
<p><i>Sure takes the fun out of pointing to similar behavior on intellectual shitholes like Hot Air, HuffPo, or LGF.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s really a shame, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Leviticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leviticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s Helen “The Voice of Hezbollah” Thomas.&quot;

-SPQR

&quot;No comments like that. Cut it out.&quot;

-Patterico

Yeah, SPQR.  Cut it out.  I&#039;d hate to think there were people so stupid that they correlated an opposing viewpoint with terrorist sympathies.  Or maybe Patterico would hate to think his site played host to people that make construable death threats (i.e. Banjo, whom Patterico may have been addressing in the first place), jokingly or otherwise.  Sure takes the fun out of pointing to similar behavior on intellectual shitholes like Hot Air, HuffPo, or LGF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s Helen “The Voice of Hezbollah” Thomas.&#8221;</p>
<p>-SPQR</p>
<p>&#8220;No comments like that. Cut it out.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Patterico</p>
<p>Yeah, SPQR.  Cut it out.  I&#8217;d hate to think there were people so stupid that they correlated an opposing viewpoint with terrorist sympathies.  Or maybe Patterico would hate to think his site played host to people that make construable death threats (i.e. Banjo, whom Patterico may have been addressing in the first place), jokingly or otherwise.  Sure takes the fun out of pointing to similar behavior on intellectual shitholes like Hot Air, HuffPo, or LGF.</p>
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