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	<title>Comments on: L.A. Times Repeats Ridiculous Lie That Bush Erroneously Said Mandela Was Dead</title>
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		<title>By: sf</title>
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		<dc:creator>sf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone needs evidence that David E has serious psychological problems, check his comment #60:

&lt;i&gt;Cheney, as you well know, runs this stinking shithole of country.&lt;/i&gt;

Anyone who would so describe this country clearly can&#039;t be taken seriously--he&#039;s flailing in all directions like a child throwing a tantrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone needs evidence that David E has serious psychological problems, check his comment #60:</p>
<p><i>Cheney, as you well know, runs this stinking shithole of country.</i></p>
<p>Anyone who would so describe this country clearly can&#8217;t be taken seriously&#8211;he&#8217;s flailing in all directions like a child throwing a tantrum.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;high rates of catastrophic mechanical failure incidences&lt;/i&gt;

An example:

At certain flying angles (like &lt;i&gt;take-off&lt;/i&gt;) the F-102&#039;s jet compressor could stall, causing the plane to roll inverted into the pavement.

Yipes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>high rates of catastrophic mechanical failure incidences</i></p>
<p>An example:</p>
<p>At certain flying angles (like <i>take-off</i>) the F-102&#8217;s jet compressor could stall, causing the plane to roll inverted into the pavement.</p>
<p>Yipes.</p>
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		<title>By: PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, Bush&#039;s IQ is a few points higher than John Kerry&#039;s.

It took serious stones to fly almost any of the century series fighters.  Evil handling, uncompensated for by computers, high rates of catastrophic mechanical failure incidences, balky early generation ejection seats, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, Bush&#8217;s IQ is a few points higher than John Kerry&#8217;s.</p>
<p>It took serious stones to fly almost any of the century series fighters.  Evil handling, uncompensated for by computers, high rates of catastrophic mechanical failure incidences, balky early generation ejection seats, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;#76:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;And yes, dissenters: Bush could very well be a moron.&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry, Levi: the military doesn&#039;t allow morons to fy superonic jets.

Don&#039;t agree? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/08-F-106A_Delta_Dart_cockpit_sim.jpg&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Can you fly this?&lt;/a&gt; Bush can and did...logging in hundreds of hours:&lt;blockquote&gt;Now, picture yourself in this chair, at 40,000 feet, traveling at one and a half times the speed of sound. Now imagine that someone has painted the windows white; you are flying on instruments. Now imagine that not only do you have to be able to fly blind, by referencing these instruments, but that you also have to stare into that orange jack-o-lantern of a radar, and interpret a squiggle that will lead you to your target. Now imagine that in addition to not hitting the ground, or your wingman, and watching the squiggle, you also have to turn those switches on the right side panel to activate weapons systems, to overcome enemy countermeasures, without looking outside, as you hurtle through air at -40 degrees F, air so thin that should you lose pressure, you have about 4-6 seconds of consciousness before you black out and die.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry, Levi: the military doesn&#039;t allow morons to fy superonic jets.

Harvard and Yale, the two preeminent universities in the nation, doesn&#039;t allow morons to graduate with advanced business degrees, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>#76:</b> <i>And yes, dissenters: Bush could very well be a moron.</i></p>
<p>Sorry, Levi: the military doesn&#8217;t allow morons to fy superonic jets.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t agree? <a href="http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/08-F-106A_Delta_Dart_cockpit_sim.jpg" title="" rel="nofollow">Can you fly this?</a> Bush can and did&#8230;logging in hundreds of hours:<br />
<blockquote>Now, picture yourself in this chair, at 40,000 feet, traveling at one and a half times the speed of sound. Now imagine that someone has painted the windows white; you are flying on instruments. Now imagine that not only do you have to be able to fly blind, by referencing these instruments, but that you also have to stare into that orange jack-o-lantern of a radar, and interpret a squiggle that will lead you to your target. Now imagine that in addition to not hitting the ground, or your wingman, and watching the squiggle, you also have to turn those switches on the right side panel to activate weapons systems, to overcome enemy countermeasures, without looking outside, as you hurtle through air at -40 degrees F, air so thin that should you lose pressure, you have about 4-6 seconds of consciousness before you black out and die.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry, Levi: the military doesn&#8217;t allow morons to fy superonic jets.</p>
<p>Harvard and Yale, the two preeminent universities in the nation, doesn&#8217;t allow morons to graduate with advanced business degrees, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Tiemann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Tiemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(And yes, I ended a sentence with a preposition on purpose, just to piss him off if he&#039;s game for it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(And yes, I ended a sentence with a preposition on purpose, just to piss him off if he&#8217;s game for it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Tiemann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Tiemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of an old &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2003/07/Culturalcrosspollination.shtml&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;USS Clueless post&lt;/a&gt; by Steven Den Beste, in which he said the following:

&lt;blockquote&gt; Though African Wild Dogs reproduce sexually, &lt;I&gt;packs&lt;/I&gt; of dogs reproduce by fission. When a pack grows too large, some members will split off and found a new pack. They&#039;ll take with them the learned behavior patterns from their parent pack, so that knowledge passes from the original pack to both of its offspring. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Did you see that? Did you see?! &lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;Dogs reproduce by fission!&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt; That&#039;s what he said! It&#039;s a perfectly grammatical sentence and everything! He said those exact words, so it&#039;s obvious that Den Beste believes dogs reproduce by &lt;I&gt;fission!&lt;/I&gt; Ha ha, what a moron!

Seriously: David is an &lt;I&gt;author&lt;/I&gt;? What on earth must his books read like? Is every single construct in them an atomic grammatical fragment that cannot be taken out of context? Does he write without ever once using metaphorical or figurative language? That would be an amazing feat. What&#039;s such a linguistic national treasure doing wasting his time commenting on blogs for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of an old <a href="http://www.denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2003/07/Culturalcrosspollination.shtml" title="" rel="nofollow">USS Clueless post</a> by Steven Den Beste, in which he said the following:</p>
<blockquote><p> Though African Wild Dogs reproduce sexually, <i>packs</i> of dogs reproduce by fission. When a pack grows too large, some members will split off and found a new pack. They&#8217;ll take with them the learned behavior patterns from their parent pack, so that knowledge passes from the original pack to both of its offspring. </p></blockquote>
<p>Did you see that? Did you see?! <i><b>Dogs reproduce by fission!</b></i> That&#8217;s what he said! It&#8217;s a perfectly grammatical sentence and everything! He said those exact words, so it&#8217;s obvious that Den Beste believes dogs reproduce by <i>fission!</i> Ha ha, what a moron!</p>
<p>Seriously: David is an <i>author</i>? What on earth must his books read like? Is every single construct in them an atomic grammatical fragment that cannot be taken out of context? Does he write without ever once using metaphorical or figurative language? That would be an amazing feat. What&#8217;s such a linguistic national treasure doing wasting his time commenting on blogs for?</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, David, your practice of calling those who disagree with you mentally ill is not a sign of maturity either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, David, your practice of calling those who disagree with you mentally ill is not a sign of maturity either.</p>
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		<title>By: reff</title>
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		<dc:creator>reff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, the &quot;Mandela is dead&quot; is a part of a sentence, and it is incomplete unless you include the rest of the sentence.  Your statement is a LIE, not just wrong. I am not using the subsequent sentence to prop it up, because the remainder of the sentence places the entire thought into proper context.  Please go back to the quote in the initial story in this post.

But, since you will not do that, you prove again that you will LIE to make your point.

Semper Fi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, the &#8220;Mandela is dead&#8221; is a part of a sentence, and it is incomplete unless you include the rest of the sentence.  Your statement is a LIE, not just wrong. I am not using the subsequent sentence to prop it up, because the remainder of the sentence places the entire thought into proper context.  Please go back to the quote in the initial story in this post.</p>
<p>But, since you will not do that, you prove again that you will LIE to make your point.</p>
<p>Semper Fi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet if you told David that Bush wrote &quot;Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Clause.&quot;, instead of Francis Pharcellus Church, he would say that it&#039;s further evidence that Bush is delusional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet if you told David that Bush wrote &#8220;Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Clause.&#8221;, instead of Francis Pharcellus Church, he would say that it&#8217;s further evidence that Bush is delusional.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s Mandela?  Do you think that President Bush literally thought that Nelson Mandela was going to go to Iraq and make peace?  The sentence before the sentence in question indicates that Bush is speaking metaphorically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s Mandela?  Do you think that President Bush literally thought that Nelson Mandela was going to go to Iraq and make peace?  The sentence before the sentence in question indicates that Bush is speaking metaphorically.</p>
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