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12/22/2007

Two Harry Reid Quotes

Filed under: General,Politics,War — DRJ @ 10:10 pm



[Guest post by DRJ]

Remember this Harry Reid quote from April 19, 2007?

“I believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense and — you have to make your own decisions as to what the president knows — that this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq.”

Fast forward eight months to December 21, 2007:

“The president said, “Let’s send some more troops over there, and that will give the Iraqis the time to take care of themselves.” We sent other troops over there, and there are a lot of reasons the surge certainly hasn’t hurt. It’s helped. I recognize that.”

And then Reid moved right into “that said, you know, the ethnic cleansing has taken place all over Iraq.”

It looks like the Democrats have a new talking point.

— DRJ

52 Responses to “Two Harry Reid Quotes”

  1. Harry Reid has undergone some brain surgery whereby whatever was formerly between his ears has been “sucked out” and surgically removded.

    Whata schmuck!

    Mike Myers (31af82)

  2. yup, time to pivot as the war is lost bit looks more & more ridiculous. i dont think this ethnic cleansing thingy is going to help them though, the fact is dems dont have any policy on iraq except anti W rants, which is kinda sad.

    james conrad (7cd809)

  3. Well Harry as well happens to be a Mormon.

    Not that such has anything in the world to do with his current or past spoutings. It does not.

    Look at the Mormon Harry Reid and then at the Mormon Mitt Romney. Notice any difference?

    Harry uses his position to create great personal wealth. Well Mitt does that as well, but he is much better looking! :)

    Living among Mormons for most of my life, ok all of it, such behavior is like the norm. In many ways the mormons seem to be the new Jews.

    I don’t say such to inflame anybody, it’s but an observation based on 50 plus yrs among them.

    TC (1cf350)

  4. Say TC…
    Being a Jew, whose son dated a Mormon…I didn’t find any commonality with her or her family (Other than as Americans) I’d be interested in your comparisons if you’d care to expand upon your comment.And no, I’m not spoiling for an arguement here, just very curious.

    paul from fl (47918a)

  5. You already said that, David.

    nk (c87736)

  6. By what mechanism does the MPAA ban posters? How can they enforce?

    Pablo (99243e)

  7. They take away the movie’s rating. That really lowers its marketability.

    nk (c87736)

  8. THIS POSTER HAS BEEN BANNED BY THE MPAA

    Harry Reid is a MPAA member? Who knew?

    Paul (d07d56)

  9. Precisely nk. Without an MPAA rating a film can only play a select number of theaters and will have toruble being advertised in many newspapers.

    The MPAA is a censorship organization. Always has been.

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)

  10. They take away the movie’s rating.

    Hmm… Anyone ever sued them over that?

    Pablo (99243e)

  11. I represented a movie theater for a long time. Amongst its other problems, it had to be careful what movies it showed because it leased the neighboring church’s parking lot.

    nk (c87736)

  12. David

    The MPAA would end tomorrow if the studios/producers/filmmakers decided to leave it.

    Unlike broadcast media, there is no government agency involved in the film industry. The MPAA, an 1800 pound contradictory gorilla for sure, is a non-government trade association. It has as much influence over its members as any trade association or union does.

    Darleen (187edc)

  13. The lefties over at Kevin Drum are shifting gears and are now convinced the “Anbar Awakening” is the new civil war. Anything to keep the faith that we will lose.

    MIke K (86bddb)

  14. Harry Reid, he was against the Surge before he was for it. The fecklessness of the Democratic Congressional leadership is another big factor that makes the CW saying the Democrats can’t lose in 2008 suspect.

    JayHub (0a6237)

  15. The ‘ethnic cleansing’ remark is in reference to the idea that the neighborhoods of Iraq has self-segregated and/or been purged through killing of their respective minority groups. Something the Iraq War permitted to occur.

    Basically the violence subsided because there’s no one left to kill and not because of the Surge.

    Pathetic attempt to steal defeat from the jaws of victory.

    jpm100 (b48b29)

  16. Anyone who wants to understand the uber tinfoil hatted leftist loons needs to read the rebuttal by James Piereson on Pajamasmadia.com, December 22 to James Sterngold that lays out where this “crazy insanity and unspeakable hate come from and why. I agree with James Piereson’s take, lived it and still find it hard to accept that there are so many people out there who are nothing but hate. But that is true and truth oftentimes hurts.

    Sue (8c2b5c)

  17. I’d like to blame Ringside Harry’s lack of leadership, overall asshattery and undermining of the troops on his 2005 stroke, but his venality, lust for power, greed, lack of principles and dickishness go back a lot further.

    daleyrocks (906622)

  18. “I agree with James Piereson’s take, lived it and still find it hard to accept that there are so many people out there who are nothing but hate.”

    So True.

    And they’re all Republicans.

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)

  19. Geez, David

    Mommy Sheehan and Ted Rall are Republicans?

    Who knew?

    Darleen (187edc)

  20. They’re entirely reasonable individuals, Darleen.
    Especially when compared to the likes of Trent Lott and Tom Delay.

    As an African-American it’s quite clear what the Republican Party wants me for since Reagan’s “Suthern Strategy” went into effect — a doormate.

    As a gay man, it wants me dead.

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)

  21. As a gay man, it wants me dead.

    They ran both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue for 6 years and you’re still here?

    Something doesn’t make sense.

    Really, it’s almost 2008. Can’t you come up with some new material by now?

    SteveMG (46173d)

  22. “They ran both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue for 6 years and you’re still here?”

    I didn’t say they were competent, did I?

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)

  23. I didn’t say they were competent, did I?

    (rimshot, followed by Elvis exit music)

    ANNOUNCER: Thank you thank you, folks! David Ehrenstein has left the building! Thanks for spending your evening at the Patterico Lounge and remember folks, the great David E. will be here again tomorrow night, all Christmas week and New Years’ Eve too for your total entertainment pleasure! 😉

    qdpsteve (cd214a)

  24. Announchment HARRY REID says he is a blabbering liberal idiot saying anything to get demacraps elected

    krazy kagu (7c8404)

  25. Count me as one Republican that doesn’t want DE dead.
    I think I speak for most Republicans though when I say that we’d like him to stop already with the paranoid fantasy screeds.
    Black?
    Big deal
    Gay?
    Who cares
    Raving paranoid?
    Please see about upping the dosage on the meds

    I think whoever said “if you don’t want to be treated like an asshole, then stop acting like one” was onto something

    SteveG (4e16fc)

  26. “Who cares”

    The Republican party.

    Have you read its platform?

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)

  27. David does go off the deep end on gay issues. That’s how he is. But I liked his point with MPAA that a lot of people want to control our information for their own reasons — in this case: “Horrors, it is not suitable for all audiences! Think of the children!”

    nk (c87736)

  28. DE: Reagan’s “Southern Strategy”…
    Just one small moment here David. Being an old fart, I seem to remember that the “Southern Strategy” was something that was used by the Nixon campaign. Or, am I just halucinating that whole 68/72 thing?

    Another Drew (8018ee)

  29. “David does go off the deep end on gay issues. That’s how he is.”

    The Jews do go off the deep end on anti-semitism. That’s how they are.

    “Being an old fart, I seem to remember that the “Southern Strategy” was something that was used by the Nixon campaign. Or, am I just halucinating that whole 68/72 thing?

    Point taken. You are correct sir. My bad.

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)

  30. We are commenting at a blog.
    I have no idea if DE is gay or black or both.
    I’m blind to all that.
    The paranoid victim tone is what comes through.
    For all I know DE is an old Asian blue haired woman who is commenting from Paraguay… but that tone…yikes

    SteveG (4e16fc)

  31. The Jews do go off the deep end on anti-semitism. That’s how they are.

    Mostly not. They have enough enemies so they don’t have to look for chimerical ones. Sorry, David, but mostly the homophobia you attack is only in your mind.

    nk (c87736)

  32. You need to properly acquaint yourself with history before making such a thoughtlessly stupid statement nk. It’s beneath you. Here’s a good place to start. (You’ll find my picture on page 204.)

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)

  33. DE, we mostly don’t care about your proclivities. It is the manner in which you attempt to communicate that upsets most here.

    Me thinks you are too full of yourself.

    Another Drew (8018ee)

  34. It appears as though The real David E. makes the fake one here into a liar.

    Or, is it the other way around? Not too much here to comment on??? Damn, I wish David E. would shut up sometimes. But, again, the Corps will continue to protect your right to run off at the mouth….

    And, to all soldiers, sailors, Marines, and all those who take a weapon and stand a post…

    Merry Christmas, and a Happy and Prosperous and SAFE New Year!!!

    reff (99666d)

  35. Jeez you people with you Semper Fi obsession!

    If I were a truly nasty person I’d link some Primo Marine Gay porn right about now.

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)

  36. Jeez you people with you Semper Fi obsession!

    It’s called respect and gratitude David. Qualities that I personally know you’re not entirely unfamiliar with.

    qdpsteve (cd214a)

  37. Yes, David, you might just link to some ridiculous porn site…

    And, Marines everywhere will laugh at you…while standing a post…

    Oh, and it is “YOUR” Semper Fi obsession….we don’t have an obsession, but a belief in America as a great nation….something “YOU” don’t have….

    reff (99666d)

  38. Paul I;ll try.

    But dang after all that gay black talk I may need to take a break of some kind, especially when it got mixed up with marines and all!

    Holy chit! (Hey honey, I’ve gotta a problem, small as it may seem just handle it fer me will ya)!

    I feel much better now.

    Jews and Mormons….. OMG!

    I find both groups malleable. Meaning “generally” easily manipulated on a case to case basis. Mormons much easier than Jews. Can you say flip flop? Mitt’s goal was to become gov of MA, he accomplished such and did what he needed to do to stay there long enough to make the next jump. Malleable.

    Easy to say one thing, for approval, and do another which usually results in some personal gain, though such can be removed. As in a child or relative getting the direct gain of something, may or may not come back to them personally, but even if not it’s considered a net gain.

    STRONG desire to see members in places of influence!!!!!! Can’t be stressed enough, both groups seem equally desirous of such.

    Jews have a strong presence today in arts/entertainment, sciences, media ownership and offices close enough to the highest positions of real power in the country, as well as the world. It’s not an accident! It’s intentional. Part of the “Never Forget” about all the wrongs Hitler did to us as a class 60 years ago.

    McCarthy was almost successful in putting the jews in some place in the 50’s, but failed, since then it’s been a rush to the top for Jews. (They were not alone but as a group had the most to lose and therefore the most to gain during said period.) Gain they did.

    I think the Mormons learned much over the years. Their isolation in the badlands of Utah provided the isolation they needed at the time. They experimented with many folks and learned allot about human behavior. (as an aside, the biggest failing Mormons have is the failure to acknowledge they are in fact a human being before being a Mormon).

    They learned that with positive press you can get statehood! Yuppers, that and hand over 2/3’s of your land to the feds along with over a 100K in what amounted to advertising in the Eastern press, you too can become a state of your own! In 1894-5 that was some advertising budget!

    Did you know the original Utah territory consisted of NEV, Utah AZ Half of CO and half of NM as well!? The Mormons settled Las Vegas? Phoenix? As well as manymore centers of population. They did. Tough folks they were.

    Since they really do not understand such, being human before Mormon, it is a point to not bring up with them. (Avoid the clash).

    There is also an entire class of Mormons that one can called Mormon Jews. Oxymoron? Not really. I know many and they are as Jew as can be, but members with standing in the church. (The church is easy to gain attention and position in, especially for converts, to a point, but pass that point and you own the ward.)

    Do not misinterpret they are Mormon, but genetically Jew. Can make for an interesting mix. BYU, the Mormon school, has one of the best business programs in the country. They do not feature an AAS dept. But with dollars and cents, they kick ass! I won’t go deeper than that with BYU, sans they did (somehow), just win another bowl game! (Talk about amazing grace)! But hey, in the W L it’s still a W! Congrats to the lucky bbb….

    Mormons come in lots of flavors as well. Not that Baptists, Lutherans and Catholics don’t as they do as well. Generally the flavor can be determined on the population of such within a given area. Domination usually results in some challenges, especially for those that do not happen to subscribe. In KS I offer a front door a back door and a baptist door.

    Seems they all welcome and discriminate with ease. I figure such of about any organized religion.

    To my knowledge there is not overall dictate from on high for members to become part of the countries leadership, from jews or Mormans. But if one gains such, it’s considered an accompolishment of note.

    Paul such are some long winded generalizations but I hope are useful to you. I know both groups a bit one one much more than the other, but I’ve hosted some Israelis that ….. well I’d take the Koreans over them any day! What was really funny about those groups is the the Jew;s that booked them were making excuses for their behavior long before they ever arrived! They had trouble getting rebooks at other places.

    But in reality we only had a couple of challenging times with those guests, now getting paid? GAWD you knew you were dealing with a JEW! And a NY Jew as well!

    I’m not sure if that helped you question or not, but I hope it did.

    As an aside, I’m not afraid of Mitt becoming pres, he would probably make a pretty decent one. If not he is out in but 4 years right? He does posses the leadership skills, but who would be in his cabinet, those are the names I desire before I vote. Lets face it POTUS is just a title, it’s those he hires as closest to him that make shit happen or not.

    Another aside, if blacks STILL only make up 10% of the population why does it seem they require 80% of the attention? Constantly? Git over it Jessee!You are and AL are the only racists in the nation!

    Gays, as told to me by a gay man = 5% of the population, and less than half are of the female variety. Despite what you may perceive from the dating sites.

    Why does a nation of over 300 million give a crap about what a mere 15 million do for personal sexual gratification?

    Though “hate” crimes exist, they encompass far more than race or gender preference! In fact I’d bet the two mentioned are right at the bottom of any list. See most folks really don’t give a shit about your “special qualities”. End of line! As well they may form a “hatred” that you shove your ideals into their faces daily. Why some of you can’t come to grips with such is way beyond me.

    Well that was totally off track.

    ciao all

    TC (1cf350)

  39. “Gays, as told to me by a gay man = 5% of the population, and less than half are of the female variety.”

    And here’s the gay man who told you (accompanied by a “date” of indeterminate gender)

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)

  40. Why does anyone feed the David E. Manure Spreader?

    PCD (09d6a8)

  41. David, re my comment #33 and your #34,

    I will take my #33 back if you agree, right here and now, that the ultimate goal of NASA is not to expel all gays from Earth. 😉

    And even if you don’t, A Very Merry Christmas and Happy and Healthy New Year to you.

    nk (c87736)

  42. Yes, you know, the guys with the rocket ships. Is the whole point of the space program the deportation of all gays from Earth? Say that it is not and I will take back my “mostly the homophobia you attack is only in your mind” remark.

    nk (c87736)

  43. I’m not your pet monkey.

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)

  44. Who said you were? Certainly, not me. Live long and prosper, David.

    nk (c87736)

  45. Whose pet monkey are you David?

    daleyrocks (906622)

  46. “Whose pet monkey are you David?”

    In the immortal words of your hero Charlton Heston “Get your hands off me, you damned dirty ape!”

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)

  47. David I did not even go to your link. I’m sure the fellow that educated me allot about gays and tolerance for such was not in it.

    He is in fact a very staunch conservative! But publicly has no interest in the gay revolution as for the most part it deals with special privileges for those that enjoy SEX with the same gender!

    Something he was/is staunchly against!

    Enjoying sex with same gender partners is not the end of the world, seems that much porn deals with FF and is as well enjoyed by many. Actually fat women porn for some reason really ranks high in the ratings! Probably from curiosity, wondering how such can even happen. Well it does.

    I do not feel much is wrong with being curious. Such as well feeds enlightenment and enjoyment. Of Sex.

    Perception to reality. Gays fall for it as much as do blacks. Most straight folks and NON racist folks in reality don’t give a shit! they are not the one phuking you or getting phuked by you.

    A stand of ambivalence is far different from one of the Bigot!

    Name me one thing that by contract is currently NOT available for same sex couples that is available to mixed gender couples?

    Outside of a box on a preprinted form, I can’t find one thing. But I’m sure you can fill us in!

    TC (1cf350)

  48. “David I did not even go to your link. I’m sure the fellow that educated me allot about gays and tolerance for such was not in it.

    He is in fact a very staunch conservative! But publicly has no interest in the gay revolution as for the most part it deals with special privileges for those that enjoy SEX with the same gender!

    Something he was/is staunchly against”

    Then your friend has no understaning of
    “the gay revolution” as it has always been AGAINST the special privileges enjoyed by those gays with money (your friend, obviously) as opposed to less economically fortunate rank and file gays who prior to the revolution were subject to arrest, incarceration, castration, pre-frontal lobotopmy and in the Good Old Days were burned at the stake (hence the term faggots)

    “Name me one thing that by contract is currently NOT available for same sex couples that is available to mixed gender couples?”

    Marriage.

    David Ehrenstein (4ce68d)


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