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	<title>Comments on: My Latest E-Mail to the L.A. Times&#8217;s &#8220;Readers&#8217; Representative,&#8221; &#8212; or, &#8220;You Keep Using That Word. I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: eyeball</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2007/10/31/my-latest-e-mail-to-the-la-timess-readers-representative-or-you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1/#comment-296468</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes AMac, you got it all. And I was not insulting you with that coda, lest there be any misunderstanding between us -- it was a sincere remark in the sardonic rather than sarcastic vein. However if I did insult I apologize. 

Since you are the brains of the bunch, I hope you will share with me some disgust and outrage, followed by glee, relief and huzzahs, based on these efforts by my favorite free speech org: FIRE.

http://www.thefire.org/index.php/article/8597.html.

this is real liberalism at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes AMac, you got it all. And I was not insulting you with that coda, lest there be any misunderstanding between us &#8212; it was a sincere remark in the sardonic rather than sarcastic vein. However if I did insult I apologize. </p>
<p>Since you are the brains of the bunch, I hope you will share with me some disgust and outrage, followed by glee, relief and huzzahs, based on these efforts by my favorite free speech org: FIRE.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefire.org/index.php/article/8597.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefire.org/index.php/article/8597.html</a>.</p>
<p>this is real liberalism at work.</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMac - Let&#039;s see if eyeball comes back to validate your opinion.  I don&#039;t share it, but I noted the sarcasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMac &#8211; Let&#8217;s see if eyeball comes back to validate your opinion.  I don&#8217;t share it, but I noted the sarcasm.</p>
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		<title>By: AMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daleyrocks -- eyeball #19 MAY MOCK KNEEJERK TNR DISBELIEVERS IN ALL CAPS, but eyeball #21 has come to understand why Tim Rutten&#039;s use of the word &#039;concocted&#039; was misleading.  Has she inadvertantly joined the VWRC?  In any case, rejoice with me, it seems her moments at the keyboard were not wasted.  

Is it not the Buddha who teaches, &lt;i&gt;Insight Is Best Achieved Through Use Of Sarcasm&lt;/i&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daleyrocks &#8212; eyeball #19 MAY MOCK KNEEJERK TNR DISBELIEVERS IN ALL CAPS, but eyeball #21 has come to understand why Tim Rutten&#8217;s use of the word &#8216;concocted&#8217; was misleading.  Has she inadvertantly joined the VWRC?  In any case, rejoice with me, it seems her moments at the keyboard were not wasted.  </p>
<p>Is it not the Buddha who teaches, <i>Insight Is Best Achieved Through Use Of Sarcasm</i>?</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eyeball - I’m sorry i cannot restore to you these last few moments of your life.

Any idea if it is possible to transplant a brain into a human skiull where none resided before.  You seem to be the ideal candidate for the first experiment since you have no grasp of the Beauchamp/TNR story  yet jump in and insult the commenters.

Thanks for playing.  Back to the basement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eyeball &#8211; I’m sorry i cannot restore to you these last few moments of your life.</p>
<p>Any idea if it is possible to transplant a brain into a human skiull where none resided before.  You seem to be the ideal candidate for the first experiment since you have no grasp of the Beauchamp/TNR story  yet jump in and insult the commenters.</p>
<p>Thanks for playing.  Back to the basement.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeball</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyeball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize it&#039;s hard to follow Amac, but IF i follow from the postings above, the New Rep. determined the following:

Beauchamp described a few soldiers as mocking a disfigured Muslim woman, and claimed falsely in his article that the mockery transpired in Iraq (citing it as an example of how his unit was dehumanized by war). He later owned to his editors that the mocking of the woman took places months(?) earlier -- and in Kuwait, before the unit&#039;s deployment to Iraq. Thus he &#039;concocted&#039; not the mockery, but the locating of the mockery in the war theater of Iraq, post-deployment (if you believe there was in fact mockery -- something still being contested, it would seem). 

So when the LA Times reports that the mockery tale &quot;was concocted,&quot; they are asserting that it NEVER happened, when what they seem to mean is that it never happened IN IRAQ. 

I&#039;m sorry i cannot restore to you these last few moments of your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize it&#8217;s hard to follow Amac, but IF i follow from the postings above, the New Rep. determined the following:</p>
<p>Beauchamp described a few soldiers as mocking a disfigured Muslim woman, and claimed falsely in his article that the mockery transpired in Iraq (citing it as an example of how his unit was dehumanized by war). He later owned to his editors that the mocking of the woman took places months(?) earlier &#8212; and in Kuwait, before the unit&#8217;s deployment to Iraq. Thus he &#8216;concocted&#8217; not the mockery, but the locating of the mockery in the war theater of Iraq, post-deployment (if you believe there was in fact mockery &#8212; something still being contested, it would seem). </p>
<p>So when the LA Times reports that the mockery tale &#8220;was concocted,&#8221; they are asserting that it NEVER happened, when what they seem to mean is that it never happened IN IRAQ. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry i cannot restore to you these last few moments of your life.</p>
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		<title>By: AMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eyeball --&lt;blockquote&gt; The magazine determined that the locating of the incident involving the disfigured woman as taking place in Iraq was concocted and corrected that...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sorry, I must be coming late to this story.  Remind me:  where did the TNR conclude that the non-concocted incident with the disfigured woman take place?  Since they determined the location, they must also have some idea as its timing (when was that, again?).  And they&#039;re sure to have corroboration from some reliable witness besides Beauchamp (help me out--who are they?).

It&#039;s not as if they&#039;d just make this kind of story up as part of an ongoing evasion.

Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eyeball &#8211;<br />
<blockquote> The magazine determined that the locating of the incident involving the disfigured woman as taking place in Iraq was concocted and corrected that&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry, I must be coming late to this story.  Remind me:  where did the TNR conclude that the non-concocted incident with the disfigured woman take place?  Since they determined the location, they must also have some idea as its timing (when was that, again?).  And they&#8217;re sure to have corroboration from some reliable witness besides Beauchamp (help me out&#8211;who are they?).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as if they&#8217;d just make this kind of story up as part of an ongoing evasion.</p>
<p>Right?</p>
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		<title>By: eyeball</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyeball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT RUTTEN SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN THE FOLLOWING:&lt;/i&gt;

The magazine determined that the &lt;b&gt;locating of the &lt;/b&gt;incident involving the disfigured woman &lt;b&gt;as taking place in Iraq &lt;/b&gt;was concocted and corrected that, but also reported that interviews with Beauchamp’s comrades substantiated his version of the other events.

&lt;i&gt;YES I NOW SEE HOW THIS SLOPPY INELIGANCE IS EMBLEMATIC OF A DEEPLY BARREN LEFTISH IDEOLOGICAL MINDSET DEVOID OF LOGIC-DRIVEN PRO-REPUBLICAN ANTI-CALIPHATIC THINKING, WROUGHT BY VENGEFUL AGENDA JOURNALISTS, AS OPPOSED TO JUST, SAY, SHITTY TRUNCATED ILL-EDITED WRITING. ALERT THE BLOGOSPHERE TO THIS FRESH ENEMY WITHIN. &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT RUTTEN SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN THE FOLLOWING:</i></p>
<p>The magazine determined that the <b>locating of the </b>incident involving the disfigured woman <b>as taking place in Iraq </b>was concocted and corrected that, but also reported that interviews with Beauchamp’s comrades substantiated his version of the other events.</p>
<p><i>YES I NOW SEE HOW THIS SLOPPY INELIGANCE IS EMBLEMATIC OF A DEEPLY BARREN LEFTISH IDEOLOGICAL MINDSET DEVOID OF LOGIC-DRIVEN PRO-REPUBLICAN ANTI-CALIPHATIC THINKING, WROUGHT BY VENGEFUL AGENDA JOURNALISTS, AS OPPOSED TO JUST, SAY, SHITTY TRUNCATED ILL-EDITED WRITING. ALERT THE BLOGOSPHERE TO THIS FRESH ENEMY WITHIN. </i></p>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Drew... it&#039;s like... Patterico has devoted his life... to arguing with &lt;i&gt;alphie.&lt;/i&gt;

The LA Times being alphie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Drew&#8230; it&#8217;s like&#8230; Patterico has devoted his life&#8230; to arguing with <i>alphie.</i></p>
<p>The LA Times being alphie.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, I commend you for your continual battle for accuracy in the Dog Trainer.  But, Why?
Is it not appearant that they just don&#039;t care?
Plus, some of us have long passed the &quot;care&quot; point.  In fact, the only time I have read the paper lately, is in your posts - and what they have printed is totally irrelevant to my daily life.  I only find interest in your attempts to keep them honest and their reactions to those efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, I commend you for your continual battle for accuracy in the Dog Trainer.  But, Why?<br />
Is it not appearant that they just don&#8217;t care?<br />
Plus, some of us have long passed the &#8220;care&#8221; point.  In fact, the only time I have read the paper lately, is in your posts &#8211; and what they have printed is totally irrelevant to my daily life.  I only find interest in your attempts to keep them honest and their reactions to those efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Major Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Major Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still fixated on the dog killing, because any professional journalist would have quickly and almost effortlessly noticed that Private Beauchamp&#039;s descriptions don&#039;t pass a smell test.
And professional journalists are supposed to have a nose for news, not an agenda to push regardless of the truth.
So I passed my observations along to Ms. Gold.
So far, no reply. My feelings are definitely hurt.
http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.com/2007/10/la-times-is-trying-but-not-succeeding.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still fixated on the dog killing, because any professional journalist would have quickly and almost effortlessly noticed that Private Beauchamp&#8217;s descriptions don&#8217;t pass a smell test.<br />
And professional journalists are supposed to have a nose for news, not an agenda to push regardless of the truth.<br />
So I passed my observations along to Ms. Gold.<br />
So far, no reply. My feelings are definitely hurt.<br />
<a href="http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.com/2007/10/la-times-is-trying-but-not-succeeding.html" rel="nofollow">http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.com/2007/10/la-times-is-trying-but-not-succeeding.html</a></p>
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