Comments on: My Correspondence Thus Far with the L.A. Times’s Readers’ Representative Regarding Tim Rutten’s Laughably Error-Ridden Piece on the Beauchamp Affair http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/ Harangues that just make sense Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:54:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Sue http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295570 Sue Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:45:16 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295570 <b></b><i></i>Calling anyone at the TNR "professionals" is incorrect. To call editors and writers of TNR and/or the LAT is incorrect also!!<b></b><i></i> Calling anyone at the TNR “professionals” is incorrect. To call editors and writers of TNR and/or the LAT is incorrect also!!

]]> By: BadBrad http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295569 BadBrad Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:44:36 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295569 I have written the LA times twice and always gotten snotty, snide replies from their "reader" rep. I would not want them representing my company... This story is just downright bias... as is most of the crap from the LA Times. It's not that they make mistakes, everyone does... it's that when they do, they fail to correct them. Leads me to believe they weren't "mistakes". Have you seen the story from <a href="http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/beauchamp-and-the-rule-of-second-chances.htm" title="" rel="nofollow">Michael Yon</a> on this subject... he was at Beauchamp's unit recently and met with his BC... who offered (w/o being asked) to let him interview him. He also seemed very protective of his soldier. Hardly being "cut off" or "squeezed".... The Beauchamp part of the story is so done... I knew it was bogus from day one... the real story is the ducking and weaving from TNR and the media/progressive media/blogs laying down cover fire for their failed attack on the military. Beauchamp is out there every day fighting a war... and right next to those whom he slandered most. That at least takes guts... meanwhile TNR *spit* hides, spins, and goes back into hiding. TNR is a bunch of cowards with no honor. The media that covers for them because it fits their agenda are worse... I have written the LA times twice and always gotten snotty, snide replies from their “reader” rep. I would not want them representing my company… This story is just downright bias… as is most of the crap from the LA Times. It’s not that they make mistakes, everyone does… it’s that when they do, they fail to correct them. Leads me to believe they weren’t “mistakes”.

Have you seen the story from Michael Yon on this subject… he was at Beauchamp’s unit recently and met with his BC… who offered (w/o being asked) to let him interview him. He also seemed very protective of his soldier. Hardly being “cut off” or “squeezed”….

The Beauchamp part of the story is so done… I knew it was bogus from day one… the real story is the ducking and weaving from TNR and the media/progressive media/blogs laying down cover fire for their failed attack on the military. Beauchamp is out there every day fighting a war… and right next to those whom he slandered most. That at least takes guts… meanwhile TNR *spit* hides, spins, and goes back into hiding. TNR is a bunch of cowards with no honor. The media that covers for them because it fits their agenda are worse…

]]> By: TC http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295483 TC Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:41:08 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295483 Ya know iffin I ran any sort of rag, especially iffin I desired others to take it seriously, I’d put a hold on the article, ask the author, check and verify his information, then call the wipe the lying wipe that he is. Da boy is either lying, of writing fiction, which was not disclosed in his words at all. So he is nuttin but a gotdaum liar! Applaud him for being such and let him live with it! But as well make fer daaum sure your readers knows that he but such as well! That will clip his future performances long before they ever appear. I thought I said as much earlier, Oh I did! ANYTHING from Scott Beauchamp should be labeled as "FICTION by SB, witch rhymes with SumBitch! Err Lyin Sumabitch! Ya know iffin I ran any sort of rag, especially iffin I desired others to take it seriously, I’d put a hold on the article, ask the author, check and verify his information, then call the wipe the lying wipe that he is.

Da boy is either lying, of writing fiction, which was not disclosed in his words at all. So he is nuttin but a gotdaum liar!

Applaud him for being such and let him live with it! But as well make fer daaum sure your readers knows that he but such as well!

That will clip his future performances long before they ever appear.

I thought I said as much earlier, Oh I did!

ANYTHING from Scott Beauchamp should be labeled as “FICTION by SB, witch rhymes with SumBitch! Err Lyin Sumabitch!

]]> By: Major Mike http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295464 Major Mike Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:59:55 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295464 All that has happened began when The New Republic chose to publish Beauchamp's lies as true tales of Army atrocities in Iraq. How could highly trained professional journalists allow themselves to promote such drivel in their influential national magazine? A coarse military saying goes, "Don't shit in your mess kit." The New Republic editors and the LA Times' Tim Rutten better not ask "What's for dinner?" All that has happened began when The New Republic chose to publish Beauchamp’s lies as true tales of Army atrocities in Iraq. How could highly trained professional journalists allow themselves to promote such drivel in their influential national magazine?
A coarse military saying goes, “Don’t shit in your mess kit.”
The New Republic editors and the LA Times’ Tim Rutten better not ask “What’s for dinner?”

]]> By: TCO http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295434 TCO Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:36:45 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295434 I think the other errors are more notable. You are technically correct, that there is an error of the sort that you describe at first (created by the poor writing used). I think the other errors are more notable. You are technically correct, that there is an error of the sort that you describe at first (created by the poor writing used).

]]> By: Major Mike http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295433 Major Mike Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:34:57 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/my-correspondence-thus-far-with-the-la-timess-readers-representative-regarding-tim-ruttens-laughably-error-ridden-piece-on-the-beauchamp-affair/#comment-295433 Patrick Rutten's most grievous errors are found in not carefully reading Beauchamp's stories before defending them and the complicit editors at The New Republic. It is bad enough that Rutten reported the killings Beauchamp described as “attempts.” However, if he had just Googled "Bradley Fighting Vehicle" as a minimum, he would have seen that there is no way the dogs could have been killed as described by Beauchamp, or for that matter, that Beauchamp could even have observed their deaths. Rather than fighting over the details of “when what documents were displayed or whatever” by Drudge, I would be interested in your trolls' comments about how Rutten and the professional journalists at The New Republic missed the obvious lies in Beauchamp’s story. And that of course would lead me to challenge The New Republic's assertions that they have statements from anonymous soldiers in Beauchamp’s unit confirming his implausible descriptions of the dog killings. Thanks for linking to my post. Here it is again for anyone interested in proof of Private Beauchamp’s lies, and of how simple it would have been for Mr. Rutten and The New Republic editors to recognize them. http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.com/2007/10/la-times-joins-new-republic-in.html Patrick

Rutten’s most grievous errors are found in not carefully reading Beauchamp’s stories before defending them and the complicit editors at The New Republic. It is bad enough that Rutten reported the killings Beauchamp described as “attempts.” However, if he had just Googled “Bradley Fighting Vehicle” as a minimum, he would have seen that there is no way the dogs could have been killed as described by Beauchamp, or for that matter, that Beauchamp could even have observed their deaths.
Rather than fighting over the details of “when what documents were displayed or whatever” by Drudge, I would be interested in your trolls’ comments about how Rutten and the professional journalists at The New Republic missed the obvious lies in Beauchamp’s story.
And that of course would lead me to challenge The New Republic’s assertions that they have statements from anonymous soldiers in Beauchamp’s unit confirming his implausible descriptions of the dog killings.
Thanks for linking to my post. Here it is again for anyone interested in proof of Private Beauchamp’s lies, and of how simple it would have been for Mr. Rutten and The New Republic editors to recognize them.
http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.com/2007/10/la-times-joins-new-republic-in.html

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