Deport the Criminals First — Part Eighteen of an Ongoing Series: Illegal Shoots and Kills Phoenix Police Officer
[Guest post by Jack Dunphy, h/t: Robert Parry]
Phoenix police officer Nick Erfle, 33, was shot and killed Tuesday morning after stopping three people for jaywalking. Police say one of the people stopped was Erik Jovani Martinez, 22, a previously deported illegal alien with outstanding felony warrants. Martinez pulled a gun and shot the officer in the face. Other officers shot and killed Martinez an hour later. Full details are here, on azcentral.com.
Here we go again.
At least those of us who live in AZ won’t have to pay the costs of a trial or imprisonment.
Strap this SOB’s carcass to a pole on the border facing south.
Horatio (a549f7) — 9/19/2007 @ 11:02 amThank you for posting this article so I could learn about Officer Erfle. I am so sorry to hear of his death. He was clearly a fine young officer as well as a 2-time cancer survivor, father of 2 young sons, liked by his neighbors, and a good colleague to his police partner. The circumstances of his death were horrific. While no good comes from an incident like this, I hope Officer Erfle’s death will raise awareness about the need to deport criminal aliens and keep them out once they are deported.
DRJ (ec59b5) — 9/19/2007 @ 11:14 amWith deadly force if necessary.
How many more US citizens have to die before we wake up? If you listen to both Democrats and Republicans (especially he Bush Admin), a lot more. Maybe thousands.
Horatio (a549f7) — 9/19/2007 @ 11:51 amI say ctrmate him nasty carcass and dumb the ashes back in mexico i would,nt even want any vultures to feed on his filty carrion
krazy kagu (e08c0e) — 9/19/2007 @ 11:53 am[Spam comment deleted. Leviticus, don’t leave the exact same comment on multiple threads. — P]
Leviticus (3c2c59) — 9/19/2007 @ 12:18 pmIt’s gonna keep coming back, P.
Leviticus (3c2c59) — 9/19/2007 @ 12:19 pmI agree wholeheartedly, Horatio. It’s time for the people of Arizona to make our state safer. Leviticus: It can’t be said enough times in enough places. Didn’t we say the same things yesterday?
PatAZ (56a0a8) — 9/19/2007 @ 1:53 pmLeviticus–
Why do you read what Patterico posts re: deporting criminal illegals if you find them redundant? It’s his blog, and he obviously thinks it’s important. It’s time for you to let it go.
Horatio (a549f7) — 9/19/2007 @ 2:48 pmThey should ship the body to Geraldo.
Another Drew (8018ee) — 9/19/2007 @ 4:51 pmBy the very definition of illegal alien its clear that these people do not care about the laws of the USA, so they are criminals. Or are we to start calling drug dealers unlicensed pharmaists?
Thomas Jackson (bf83e0) — 9/19/2007 @ 5:11 pm“Unlicensed pharmacists” – that was fresh. How about calling car-jackers unauthorized valets?
tubbyhubby (b03ecb) — 9/19/2007 @ 7:33 pmhttp://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/09/know_your_sources.html
Amid the most recent immigration debate on Capitol Hill, many of us for the first time met a whole new group of spokespeople arrayed against immigration. But did we really meet them—or just the face they would like the mainstream press to see?
It turns out that many anti-immigrant leaders have backgrounds that should disqualify them from even participating in mainstream debate. What is sad is they manage to get the American press to quote them without ever noting their bizarre and often racist beliefs.
A strong assertion? Hardly.
Let’s start with the first of numerous examples: John Vinson. Vinson heads the American Immigration Control Foundation and is a leading anti-immigrant voice in the mainstream press. He is also a co-author of The Greybook: Blueprint for Southern Independence, published in 2004 by the racist League of the South. As the name implies, the authors call for the secession of the former Confederate states in order to protect the racial purity and economic viability of the white middle class. And they do so, they say on page 26 of the neo-Confederate tract, “Standing in the same place where our President Jefferson Davis stood in 1861.”
Yet in April of this year, the South Bend Tribune of South Bend, Indiana had no problem quoting Vinson as an authority on immigration matters. Vinson, described in the April 15 article as “editor of Americans for Immigration Control,” was asked about the then-pending Senate immigration reform bill:
Vinson said he opposes any proposal that grants citizenship to undocumented immigrants. “I can’t understand the rationale of giving citizenship to people who have broken the law,” he said.
Nowhere in the article is there any mention that Vinson is a devout white-supremacist. Nor was there any such notation a year earlier in a straight news article in the Arizona Daily Star, where he gives his evaluation that the 1986 federal immigration law was a failure. Indeed, a survey of mainstream media articles conducted by the Center for American Progress using Lexis-Nexis over a period of one year found numerous quotes from Vinson, AICF, or representatives of the affiliated Americans for Immigration Control in the mainstream press—none of which mention any connection to white supremacy when quoting Vinson, AICF, or AIC.
Seems like it would matter to readers to know a basic fact such as that the guy whose “expertise” is being printed in the newspaper actually hates people of color. Knowing this bias would likely shape readers’ interpretation of the article. Instead, readers are given Vinson’s views as if these are coming from a reasonable, rational commentator, not one who believes the South should secede from the United States to protect white people.
Vinson’s wacky goal of creating a new Confederacy might be thwarted if federal law developed a path to citizenship for immigrants from Mexico and Central America. To be honestly informed, readers should at least be given information about his secessionist ambitions when he’s quoted to support opposition to comprehensive immigration reform.
Vinson and his organizations are but one example of the press not telling viewers and readers about the backgrounds of anti-immigrant experts they bring on television news or quote in this country’s newspapers. Want another example? How about John Tanton.
Most Americans have never heard of John Tanton because he operates behind the scenes, but he is the founder and/or early funder of almost every national anti-immigrant organization in the country, including at least a dozen groups. By his own admission, Tanton’s creations include the largest and best known of the national anti-immigrant organizations: NumbersUSA and FAIR, which stands for the Federation for American Immigration Reform.
The Tanton-owned Social Contract Press publishes the views of white nationalists such as John Vinson, including a gem about how God prefers racial separation. Tanton also publishes Camp of the Saints, a racist screed that uses fiction to warn white Europeans about an impending invasion of immigrants from India who will overrun the government, kidnap white women and make them into prostitutes.
If members of the mainstream press did their homework, they’d discover that it is pretty easy to get to the bottom of Tanton’s network. Dig just a little deeper and they would find what the Southern Poverty Law Center reports—that Tanton received large sums of early money for FAIR from the Pioneer Fund, possibly the last remaining funder of eugenics in the country.
bored (b03f68) — 9/19/2007 @ 10:58 pmHey, bored! It is the illegal alien not the legal alien that is a problem. Try to get it right.
mokie (64fc58) — 9/20/2007 @ 3:19 am“[Spam comment deleted. Leviticus, don’t leave the exact same comment on multiple threads.”
-Patterico
What the fuck? I ask a question… and you ignore it. So I ask again. That’s not “spamming”, that’s persistence. I want an answer; I’m not just copying my original post for shits and grins.
Give me the common courtesy of a response, even if it’s to say “it’s my blog, I’ll do whatever I want” (although that’s a weak fucking argument)
Leviticuss (b987b0) — 9/20/2007 @ 6:00 amLeviticus,
I don’t believe that I’m speaking only for myself when I say that Patterico’s Pontifications is the best blog on the net and I would sure as hell have him change anything he does because you don’t know how to use your scroll buttons.
nk (474afa) — 9/20/2007 @ 6:11 amOops. “… I would sure as hell hate have him change anything….”
nk (474afa) — 9/20/2007 @ 6:13 amnk,
You’re not speaking only for yourself when you say that Patterico’s blog is the best there is… you’re speaking for me, as well. That’s not the point.
As for me not knowing how to use my scroll buttons… what the hell are you talking about? Is that some (stupid) way of saying “if you don’t like it, don’t read it”? That’s not the point, either.
The point is, there is no point (to these threads).
It’s not like we’re going to get into a debate about whether or not the crimes in question are horrible or tragic; obviously they are.
If Patterico purports to post these threads in memoriam of victims – fine. But if that’s the case, close the threads to comments so we don’t have to watch a bunch of unjustified fucking posturing/moralizing from a few ardent individuals (Christoph, Horatio) with a Rambo-complex.
Leviticus (b987b0) — 9/20/2007 @ 6:34 amYour objection is overuled. Your exception is noted for the record. Move on, counsel.
nk (474afa) — 9/20/2007 @ 6:48 amGee – didn’t know I had a “Rambo Complex”. Wish I had his Bowie knife, and the compound bow and arrows with the explosive tips.
Maybe you’ll wake up to the fact – and mentally internalize – that it’s Patterico’s blog and he can do what he wants. He owes you nothing. No response, nada, zip, zilch, zero
And with a nom-de-guerre of “Leviticus” for you to talk about moralizing…
Horatio (a549f7) — 9/20/2007 @ 7:06 amHere is another interesting article on crime & illegal aliens.
Retired vice cop (30571a) — 9/20/2007 @ 8:13 amhttp://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
“And with a nom-de-guerre of “Leviticus” for you to talk about moralizing…”
-Horatio
My name is Levi. But thanks for playing.
Leviticus (43095b) — 9/20/2007 @ 11:54 amHere is a story that is almost ready for this series. Do we have to wait for someone to be killed to stop this madness? Fullerton PD is arresting convicted drunk drivers still on the road…but that’s all. Another catch and release?
http://www.ocregister.com/news/drivers-castro-license-1848201-driving-traffic
Let me know: deport the criminals first!
Patricia (4117a9) — 9/20/2007 @ 1:19 pmI wonder why you need to enhance your name. Be proud man – use “Levi”, not the name of the third book in the Torah
“Game over Man”
Horatio (564fb8) — 9/20/2007 @ 1:55 pmThis is Patterico’s blog, and he can do whatever he wants with it (agreed, by the way). Similarly, it’s my handle, and I’ll make it what I please. It’s got nothing to do with “pride” (that is, why don’t you use your full name, suffixed with your home address?).
Besides, a lot of people call me Leviticus.
Leviticus (e5dabe) — 9/20/2007 @ 7:09 pmHey Bored, I hear Hitler was a vegetarian. Clearly then, all vegetarians want to kill the Jews. Or something like that.
buzz (e09efa) — 9/20/2007 @ 8:41 pmGiven that your full name and address are missing…
Horatio (55069c) — 9/21/2007 @ 5:19 am“It turns out that many anti-immigrant leaders have backgrounds that should disqualify them from even participating in mainstream debate.”
Hey, Bored, this is the United States of America. The only background that should disqualify anyone from participating in any mainstream debate is having proven one’s own mortality.
Sharon D. (ae864b) — 12/4/2007 @ 2:53 pm